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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 13, 2018 9:51:49 GMT -6
Kelley was earning $5.5 million with the Gnats and that was a 3-year contract so maybe at his current age, he would take a 2 year, $12 million deal. He would help anchor the pen while not costing any prospects.
The circumstance by which he was DFA'd last year was kind of bizarre.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 13, 2018 10:00:50 GMT -6
I've noticed Correa bends at the waist to field grounders more than he goes to the ground to get them. I think we could easily move him to LF with his elite defense and arm and that would help his back. I think he has a future with the club if we thought outside the box a little Since Bregman is a SS playing third base, it would make sense to try your idea of moving Correa to LF and put Bregman at SS. I still think Carlos is a good candidate to leave as a free agent. I think he is a good candidate to be traded for cost control players
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 13, 2018 10:25:09 GMT -6
That is one position playing in the organization that would put you behind the eight ball. Back injuries can be mystery problems, feeling good one day and waking up the next day not being able to bend from the waist. We can only hope that CC's problem is not on going and holds him back next season. As you mentioned finding a good short stop is tough on the short list. I was surprised when the M's traded Segura to the Phillies, but then again they really tore down that team. I've noticed Correa bends at the waist to field grounders more than he goes to the ground to get them. I think we could easily move him to LF with his elite defense and arm and that would help his back. I think he has a future with the club if we thought outside the box a littleThis has always bothered me, and nobody else seems to notice his Batman suit level of flexibility. Even in Game 1 against the Red Sox, the commentator pointed out how he waits for the grounder to come to him instead of charging the ball. I don’t know if that was an effort or injury issue.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 13, 2018 10:39:55 GMT -6
Since Bregman is a SS playing third base, it would make sense to try your idea of moving Correa to LF and put Bregman at SS. I still think Carlos is a good candidate to leave as a free agent. I think he is a good candidate to be traded for cost control players Too soon for that.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 13, 2018 10:41:35 GMT -6
Kelley was earning $5.5 million with the Gnats and that was a 3-year contract so maybe at his current age, he would take a 2 year, $12 million deal. He would help anchor the pen while not costing any prospects. The circumstance by which he was DFA'd last year was kind of bizarre. There are red flags with that guy. Why was he so up and down with the Nationals? Why did a playoff team like the A’s get rid of him? Something is weird there.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 13, 2018 10:43:19 GMT -6
I'd also like to see a premium bullpen add. I don't expect much from Rondon, Smith, or Harris next year. And even less from Devo and Peacock. Not only that but Osuna wasn’t too impressive. Osuna is better than he showed here. I think that now that he's got the legal mess off of his shoulders, we'll see elite performace from him.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 13, 2018 10:47:49 GMT -6
What would you think about this Offseason?
Trades: 1. J.B. Bukouskas, Yordan Alveraz, Jairo Solis, Jeremy Pena and Joe Smith to the Tigers For Micheal Fulmer and Nicholas Castellanos
2. Max Stassi, Yuli Gurriel and Ronnie Dawson to the Blue Jay's For Cavan Biggio and Justin Smoak
Sign: Micheal Bradley 3yrs 45million to play LF and 1B and DH
Adam Ottovino 3yrs 35million
Put the offer on the table for BRYCE HARPER 10YRS 310million
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 13, 2018 10:51:52 GMT -6
That is one position playing in the organization that would put you behind the eight ball. Back injuries can be mystery problems, feeling good one day and waking up the next day not being able to bend from the waist. We can only hope that CC's problem is not on going and holds him back next season. As you mentioned finding a good short stop is tough on the short list. I was surprised when the M's traded Segura to the Phillies, but then again they really tore down that team. I've noticed Correa bends at the waist to field grounders more than he goes to the ground to get them. I think we could easily move him to LF with his elite defense and arm and that would help his back. I think he has a future with the club if we thought outside the box a littleOver the last few years even after CC came back from his back injury, he made acrobatic plays at short, which really would torque his body. If he was moved to the OF, especially LF at the Juice Box, I can see him throwing strikes on the fly to HP.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 13, 2018 10:52:42 GMT -6
I've noticed Correa bends at the waist to field grounders more than he goes to the ground to get them. I think we could easily move him to LF with his elite defense and arm and that would help his back. I think he has a future with the club if we thought outside the box a little Over the last few years even after CC came back from his back injury, he made acrobatic plays at short, which really would torque his body. If he was moved to the OF, especially LF at the Juice Box, I can see him throwing strikes on the fly to HP. The only issue with that is Bregman moves back to SS and who plays 3B
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 13, 2018 10:56:51 GMT -6
Over the last few years even after CC came back from his back injury, he made acrobatic plays at short, which really would torque his body. If he was moved to the OF, especially LF at the Juice Box, I can see him throwing strikes on the fly to HP. The only issue with that is Bregman moves back to SS and who plays 3B If the real JD ever shows up that could be a fill.
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 13, 2018 11:10:35 GMT -6
I hate we lost Riley to the rule v.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 13, 2018 11:22:35 GMT -6
I hate we lost Riley to the rule v. I am as well.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 13, 2018 12:01:47 GMT -6
Ryan Thompson aswell
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 13, 2018 12:11:00 GMT -6
Phillies in pursuit of both Andrew Miller & Zach Britton. I am sort of wishing that Luhnow would go after one of these guys. The reason being is IF we don't get any starting pitching this offseason then McHugh and/or Peacock will have to slide into the rotation. This will weaken our bullpen considerably. I'd also like to see a premium bullpen add. I don't expect much from Rondon, Smith, or Harris next year. And even less from Devo and Peacock. We need a lefty in the pen.....a healthy Britton or Miller would be great.
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Post by olpapa on Dec 13, 2018 12:11:09 GMT -6
I hate we lost Riley to the rule v. I would have been surprised if he wasn’t taken.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 13, 2018 12:12:44 GMT -6
I'd also like to see a premium bullpen add. I don't expect much from Rondon, Smith, or Harris next year. And even less from Devo and Peacock. Not only that but Osuna wasn’t too impressive. You didnt like Osuna from the moment he arrived. He was better than everyone else in that pen not named Pressly.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 13, 2018 12:16:10 GMT -6
Not only that but Osuna wasn’t too impressive. You didnt like Osuna from the moment he arrived. He was better than everyone else in that pen not named Pressly. I was skeptical about him but was willing to see how he did before saying how I felt. I thought we was okay. Like Tim said earlier, he’ll probably do better, but the team needs to add a middle reliever.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 12:19:02 GMT -6
Three way trade just went down between the Rays, Indians and Mariners. Mariners get Edwin Encarnacion and Indians get Carlos Santana.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 13, 2018 12:23:05 GMT -6
You didnt like Osuna from the moment he arrived. He was better than everyone else in that pen not named Pressly. I was skeptical about him but was willing to see how he did before saying how I felt. I thought we was okay. Like Tim said earlier, he’ll probably do better, but the team needs to add a middle reliever. He was better in Toronto prior to the charges that ended up being dropped, He came into a new clubhouse and environment and could bave been trying too hard to impress. In any case, I think we see a better Osuna in 2019. If we could add a Britton or Miller to go with Osuna and Pressley, we should have a great pen. Rondon is too inconsistent. And, I'm OK with Harris, Devenski, and Sipp all being gone.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 13, 2018 12:24:36 GMT -6
Three way trade just went down between the Rays, Indians and Mariners. Mariners get Edwin Encarnacion and Indians get Carlos Santana. Who did the Rays get?
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 13, 2018 12:25:32 GMT -6
I'd also like to see a premium bullpen add. I don't expect much from Rondon, Smith, or Harris next year. And even less from Devo and Peacock. We need a lefty in the pen.....a healthy Britton or Miller would be great. There have to be a lot of GMs who want to get another lefty reliever before Opening Day. Oddly enough, Tony Sipp did one of the best jobs of preventing runs as a lefty reliever in 2018. He won't land in Houston, but I'll be interested to see who picks him up for 2019. I won't even try to guess which version of Sipp they will get. Luhnow could ride with Cionel and Framber for this need, but if a top arm like Britton or Miller could be added at a reasonable cost, that would be fabulous.
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 13, 2018 12:40:33 GMT -6
These are the lefty pitchers who project to best limit damage based on their 2018 season results. Certainly, there are some good pitchers not on this list, but these would have to be some of the names Luhnow is thinking about. Generally, any pitcher who generates an xwOBA against under .311 is an above-average pitcher. Below .250 is elite. The list includes starters as well as relievers, but it's mostly relievers. I only looked at pitchers with 500 or more pitches thrown in 2018. The Astros did well to have the #9 and #20 guys on the list; most teams would be glad just to have one of these pitchers on their roster. The team has had chances to acquire Vazques and Watson, but nothing ever materialized. Those guys would have been nice to have.
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 13, 2018 12:48:41 GMT -6
These are the lefty pitchers who project to best limit damage based on their 2018 season results. Certainly, there are some good pitchers not on this list, but these would have to be some of the names Luhnow is thinking about. Generally, any pitcher who generates an xwOBA against under .311 is an above-average pitcher. Below .250 is elite. The list includes starters as well as relievers, but it's mostly relievers. I only looked at pitchers with 500 or more pitches thrown in 2018. The Astros did well to have the #9 and #20 guys on the list; most teams would be glad just to have one of these pitchers on their roster. The team has had chances to acquire Vazques and Watson, but nothing ever materialized. Those guys would have been nice to have. Sipp had a good season under the radar, as long as the Rays are out there Sipp will get picked up.
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 13, 2018 12:56:10 GMT -6
Guys like Kolarek, Mayza, Fry, and Hill will be interesting to watch in 2019. They still have a lot to prove, and their teams probably don't want to consider trading them with so many years of control left. But you never know; and the 2023 season will be here before we know it.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 13, 2018 13:58:53 GMT -6
I wonder if Nelson Cruz would except 2yrs 20million? And Micheal Brantley would except 3yrs 45million?
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 13, 2018 14:00:25 GMT -6
I wonder if Nelson Cruz would except 2yrs 20million? And Micheal Brantley would except 3yrs 45million? The reason I say them two is we can move Brantley to first base and let Tucker play LF. Covers all bases. And wonder if Wilson Ramos or Yasmani Grandal would except 3yrs 30million?
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 13, 2018 14:34:36 GMT -6
We need a lefty in the pen.....a healthy Britton or Miller would be great. There have to be a lot of GMs who want to get another lefty reliever before Opening Day. Oddly enough, Tony Sipp did one of the best jobs of preventing runs as a lefty reliever in 2018. He won't land in Houston, but I'll be interested to see who picks him up for 2019. I won't even try to guess which version of Sipp they will get. Luhnow could ride with Cionel and Framber for this need, but if a top arm like Britton or Miller could be added at a reasonable cost, that would be fabulous. As high as Luhnow has been on Britton, I would be surprised if he isn't talking to him, presuming he's healthy. A healthy Britton would look good in our pen.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 13, 2018 14:38:31 GMT -6
There have to be a lot of GMs who want to get another lefty reliever before Opening Day. Oddly enough, Tony Sipp did one of the best jobs of preventing runs as a lefty reliever in 2018. He won't land in Houston, but I'll be interested to see who picks him up for 2019. I won't even try to guess which version of Sipp they will get. Luhnow could ride with Cionel and Framber for this need, but if a top arm like Britton or Miller could be added at a reasonable cost, that would be fabulous. As high as Luhnow has been on Britton, I would be surprised if he isn't talking to him, presuming he's healthy. A healthy Britton would look good in our pen. Lunhow says Lefty In Pen not an Issue. CIONAL PEREZ AND FRAMBER VALDEZ HAVE THIS COVERED
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 13, 2018 14:39:52 GMT -6
I wonder if Nelson Cruz would except 2yrs 20million? And Micheal Brantley would except 3yrs 45million? The only way to find out is offer it and find out. You would be expecting Cruz to accept a $4 million cut in salary per year.
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