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Post by Saint on Apr 17, 2019 15:01:20 GMT -6
Pitcher no need be smart. Pitcher throw ball good. The Darvish contract and his performance are a good reason why teams considering Dallas are most likely looking the other way. In the situation that the Cubs decided to take Darvish over resigning Arrieta is probably haunting them to this day. Just think after the WS the Stros were actually considering offering this dude a contract. Yeah but nobody could have foreseen him having these types of issues. It's like the Chris Davis contract... You figure they won't be completely worth the contract, especially in the later years, but you at least expect to get solid-good performance. |
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 17, 2019 15:19:11 GMT -6
That's a good point. Can anyone honestly say we wouldn't have wanted Sale for what the Red Sox extended him before he imploded. Luhnow doesn't have a track record giving starting pitchers that many years of uncontrollable salary, and maybe that's a good thing |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 17, 2019 15:22:57 GMT -6
on the other hand I should be happy Boras told Maldonado he could get more than the Astros offer over the winter. Else we'd be stuck with Maldonado Chirinos is Piazza compared to Maldonado. Also with a better accurate throwing arm than Piazza. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 17, 2019 15:27:24 GMT -6
Why in the world the Braves and Kimbrel can't work out a 2-3 year high AAV deal makes no sense to me. They have such a good young team to build around, spend a little extra money and put together a winner. Kimbrel is a fan favorite, and likely a future HoFer if he maintains his pace. Surely he would be willing to take a shorter contract if he were able to save face with a higher AAV...
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 17, 2019 15:27:56 GMT -6
That's a good point. Can anyone honestly say we wouldn't have wanted Sale for what the Red Sox extended him before he imploded. Luhnow doesn't have a track record giving starting pitchers that many years of uncontrollable salary, and maybe that's a good thing Also look at Mookie Betts turning down the big bucks on an extension. He is off to a great start in 19. LOL |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Apr 17, 2019 17:41:25 GMT -6
I think its getting closer to Yordan Alvarez dude is lighting it up in AAA.
I would say something about Tucker but.... well .....
I would almost think we could try and package White and Kemp and try and aquire a player but the Value of those two is minimal.
So it begs to say. Could Tyler White and two mid level prospects net us a Role Player of significance?
Weather it be a OF/inf or some kind of Pitcher?
It circles back to the Castellanos question.
Could Tyler White and two none top guys net him?
Or even to a NL team for a Pitcher?
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Post by m240 on Apr 17, 2019 18:27:20 GMT -6
The only way White has any trade value is if he starts hitting like he did last summer and if he did that, why trade him.
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 17, 2019 20:22:03 GMT -6
That's why I'm curious Dallas believed his agent over his own common sense. Could it be that the guy's just not all that bright? Pitcher no need be smart. Pitcher throw ball good.  |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 17, 2019 23:04:00 GMT -6
A little piece of Astros trivia I came across recently is that in their inaugural season, the 1962 Colt .45s had one game end in a tie after 17 innings. I think St Louis was the opponent. Apparently, neither side saw the point in continuing and the umpires agreed.
The tie is the reason why if you look up the 1962 Colt 45's season record, the wins and losses only add up to 161 even though they played all 162 games.
What I didn't know about that game was that Houston used a pitcher (Bobby Shantz, maybe the only 'Astro' to ever have a movie made about him) as a pinch runner.
We got to see Mike Fiers pinch run in a weird game a couple of years ago. As far as I'm aware, Shantz and Fiers are the only two Astros pitchers to be called on as pinch runners. Has anyone here seen another instance of this?
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Post by talshill on Apr 18, 2019 8:03:58 GMT -6
A little piece of Astros trivia I came across recently is that in their inaugural season, the 1962 Colt .45s had one game end in a tie after 17 innings. I think St Louis was the opponent. Apparently, neither side saw the point in continuing and the umpires agreed. The tie is the reason why if you look up the 1962 Colt 45's season record, the wins and losses only add up to 161 even though they played all 162 games. What I didn't know about that game was that Houston used a pitcher (Bobby Shantz, maybe the only 'Astro' to ever have a movie made about him) as a pinch runner. We got to see Mike Fiers pinch run in a weird game a couple of years ago. As far as I'm aware, Shantz and Fiers are the only two Astros pitchers to be called on as pinch runners. Has anyone here seen another instance of this? I'm certain that I have. It seems like McHugh has done it and I know some others have done so over the past 40+ years, but I can't immediately recall who. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 18, 2019 8:49:00 GMT -6
A little piece of Astros trivia I came across recently is that in their inaugural season, the 1962 Colt .45s had one game end in a tie after 17 innings. I think St Louis was the opponent. Apparently, neither side saw the point in continuing and the umpires agreed. The tie is the reason why if you look up the 1962 Colt 45's season record, the wins and losses only add up to 161 even though they played all 162 games. What I didn't know about that game was that Houston used a pitcher (Bobby Shantz, maybe the only 'Astro' to ever have a movie made about him) as a pinch runner. We got to see Mike Fiers pinch run in a weird game a couple of years ago. As far as I'm aware, Shantz and Fiers are the only two Astros pitchers to be called on as pinch runners. Has anyone here seen another instance of this? I'm certain that I have. It seems like McHugh has done it and I know some others have done so over the past 40+ years, but I can't immediately recall who. Charlie Kerfeld? |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 18, 2019 9:28:57 GMT -6
Didn't a ham sandwich fall out of Charlie's pocket one day when he was running from first to second? Or is that just an urban legend?
I know he once got yelled at for ordering ribs down to the bullpen 'cause, you know, a boy has to eat.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 18, 2019 10:12:06 GMT -6
A little piece of Astros trivia I came across recently is that in their inaugural season, the 1962 Colt .45s had one game end in a tie after 17 innings. I think St Louis was the opponent. Apparently, neither side saw the point in continuing and the umpires agreed. The tie is the reason why if you look up the 1962 Colt 45's season record, the wins and losses only add up to 161 even though they played all 162 games. What I didn't know about that game was that Houston used a pitcher (Bobby Shantz, maybe the only 'Astro' to ever have a movie made about him) as a pinch runner. We got to see Mike Fiers pinch run in a weird game a couple of years ago. As far as I'm aware, Shantz and Fiers are the only two Astros pitchers to be called on as pinch runners. Has anyone here seen another instance of this? The pitcher Kenny Rogers once stole a base against the Astros at Minute Maid. That was a low point during the Rangers’ domination against us. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 18, 2019 10:25:56 GMT -6
A little piece of Astros trivia I came across recently is that in their inaugural season, the 1962 Colt .45s had one game end in a tie after 17 innings. I think St Louis was the opponent. Apparently, neither side saw the point in continuing and the umpires agreed. The tie is the reason why if you look up the 1962 Colt 45's season record, the wins and losses only add up to 161 even though they played all 162 games. What I didn't know about that game was that Houston used a pitcher (Bobby Shantz, maybe the only 'Astro' to ever have a movie made about him) as a pinch runner. We got to see Mike Fiers pinch run in a weird game a couple of years ago. As far as I'm aware, Shantz and Fiers are the only two Astros pitchers to be called on as pinch runners. Has anyone here seen another instance of this? The pitcher Kenny Rogers once stole a base against the Astros at Minute Maid. That was a low point during the Rangers’ domination against us. Just imagine how the other team felt when Brian McCann stole that base a few years ago. In Fresno, Tyler White swiped a few bags. How, I have no idea. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 18, 2019 11:24:45 GMT -6
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 18, 2019 12:21:39 GMT -6
Didn't a ham sandwich fall out of Charlie's pocket one day when he was running from first to second? Or is that just an urban legend? I know he once got yelled at for ordering ribs down to the bullpen 'cause, you know, a boy has to eat. |
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 18, 2019 15:27:53 GMT -6
his arbitration hearing that should be
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Post by Saint on Apr 18, 2019 15:32:37 GMT -6
Khris Davis extension with Oakland for 2-years $33 million. I think he could have gotten a little more in free agency but it's really hard to tell out there now. Not a bad idea to take the guaranteed money for a low OBP DH.
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 18, 2019 15:55:22 GMT -6
Khris Davis extension with Oakland for 2-years $33 million. I think he could have gotten a little more in free agency but it's really hard to tell out there now. Not a bad idea to take the guaranteed money for a low OBP DH. he always did hit well in MMP. in the off-season, some people talked about the idea of getting him over to Houston. the boy is on track for at least 50 HRs this year. In MMP he might have hit 60. then again, he might have just whiffed a lot. and i'm not sure he would have been the best use of $16.5M/year. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 18, 2019 16:05:20 GMT -6
Khris Davis extension with Oakland for 2-years $33 million. I think he could have gotten a little more in free agency but it's really hard to tell out there now. Not a bad idea to take the guaranteed money for a low OBP DH. he always did hit well in MMP. in the off-season, some people talked about the idea of getting him over to Houston. the boy is on track for at least 50 HRs this year. In MMP he might have hit 60. then again, he might have just whiffed a lot. and i'm not sure he would have been the best use of $16.5M/year. I think he would have been worth it if we were pretty sure we were going to lose Springer and/or Correa. Having him, Bregman, and Altuve signed up for multiple years would still be a great offensive core. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 18, 2019 17:11:20 GMT -6
he always did hit well in MMP. in the off-season, some people talked about the idea of getting him over to Houston. the boy is on track for at least 50 HRs this year. In MMP he might have hit 60. then again, he might have just whiffed a lot. and i'm not sure he would have been the best use of $16.5M/year. I think he would have been worth it if we were pretty sure we were going to lose Springer and/or Correa. Having him, Bregman, and Altuve signed up for multiple years would still be a great offensive core. I’m pretty sure even you could outthrow Davis, but man, he’s like one of the top DH’s around. He’s worth that money. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 18:19:02 GMT -6
Can't blame these guys for signing the extensions before they hit the FA market. Security is more important in my opinion than that potential huge contract.
Looking at you DK... 90 million extension in 2016.....
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 18, 2019 18:56:59 GMT -6
Can't blame these guys for signing the extensions before they hit the FA market. Security is more important in my opinion than that potential huge contract. Looking at you DK... 90 million extension in 2016..... Especially if you like the team you play for. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 19, 2019 7:08:53 GMT -6
I think he would have been worth it if we were pretty sure we were going to lose Springer and/or Correa. Having him, Bregman, and Altuve signed up for multiple years would still be a great offensive core. I’m pretty sure even you could outthrow Davis, but man, he’s like one of the top DH’s around. He’s worth that money. I was throwing a tennis ball in my backyard just the other day. I still got it. |
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Post by koolade2 on Apr 19, 2019 9:00:21 GMT -6
I’m pretty sure even you could outthrow Davis, but man, he’s like one of the top DH’s around. He’s worth that money. I was throwing a tennis ball in my backyard just the other day. I still got it. My two Big Dogs would have stole it and not given back until it was full chewed to their liking. They would steal it from each other not stop. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 19, 2019 9:00:56 GMT -6
I’m pretty sure even you could outthrow Davis, but man, he’s like one of the top DH’s around. He’s worth that money. I was throwing a tennis ball in my backyard just the other day. I still got it. I think I read somewhere that his average throws were below 70 mph. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 19, 2019 9:12:45 GMT -6
I was throwing a tennis ball in my backyard just the other day. I still got it. My two Big Dogs would have stole it and not given back until it was full chewed to their liking. They would steal it from each other not stop. Yeah I have a dog that does that too. We stopped buying toys when we realized that he was just as happy running around with a brick in his mouth. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 19, 2019 9:15:57 GMT -6
I was throwing a tennis ball in my backyard just the other day. I still got it. I think I read somewhere that his average throws were below 70 mph. He hit ball hard though. If he could get his OBP a little more he would compare very favorably to Harmon Killebrew at a similar age in style. (Although Killebrew started mashing the ball at an earlier age.) |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 19, 2019 9:20:52 GMT -6
I think I read somewhere that his average throws were below 70 mph. He hit ball hard though. If he could get his OBP a little more he would compare very favorably to Harmon Killebrew at a similar age in style. (Although Killebrew started mashing the ball at an earlier age.) imagine if his average were higher. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 19, 2019 16:35:06 GMT -6
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