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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 30, 2019 20:45:15 GMT -6
I’m not on Osuna’s side or anything. I’m just saying you wished as a member of this team that Lugo didn’t get cut immediately whereas you complained the entire time about Osuna first becoming a member of this team. Can you not see a difference? No, the difference is more proof and/or more to the story. One had it and one didn't. Why would I want them to be the same? What evidence was released in either case? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 20:49:33 GMT -6
No, the difference is more proof and/or more to the story. One had it and one didn't. Why would I want them to be the same? What evidence was released in either case? Either case... we got nothing for Lugo and the Jays got Giles. Looks like a wash to me |
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2019 20:54:52 GMT -6
No, the difference is more proof and/or more to the story. One had it and one didn't. Why would I want them to be the same? What evidence was released in either case? Nothing for Lugo. I don't know all the details with Osuna now, but there was obviously enough smoke to warrant the suspension and him making a public apology. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 30, 2019 21:29:49 GMT -6
What evidence was released in either case? Nothing for Lugo. I don't know all the details with Osuna now, but there was obviously enough smoke to warrant the suspension and him making a public apology. So, nothing for either? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 30, 2019 21:31:04 GMT -6
What evidence was released in either case? Either case... we got nothing for Lugo and the Jays got Giles. Looks like a wash to me All three are unlikable. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 31, 2019 7:10:00 GMT -6
Nothing for Lugo. I don't know all the details with Osuna now, but there was obviously enough smoke to warrant the suspension and him making a public apology. So, nothing for either? No... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 16:50:02 GMT -6
Here was the line a month ago.
WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA
Vlad. 1.6 317 13 49 .803 .274
Yordan 1.9 154 14 43 1.119 .338
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WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA
Vlad. 2.2 399 15 60 .808 .276
Yordan 3.0 258 22 70 1.064 .314
Folks, unless Yordan slips into a strange unexpected slump..... This race is over.
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Post by batman007 on Sept 8, 2019 17:12:24 GMT -6
Here was the line a month ago. WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA Vlad. 1.6 317 13 49 .803 .274 Yordan 1.9 154 14 43 1.119 .338 Updated.... WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA Vlad. 2.2 399 15 60 .808 .276 Yordan 3.0 258 22 70 1.064 .314 Folks, unless Yordan slips into a strange unexpected slump..... This race is over. But Yordan isn't a junior of a HOFer or getting the national media attention. How will that factor in the decision? |
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Post by m240 on Sept 8, 2019 17:40:24 GMT -6
Here was the line a month ago. WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA Vlad. 1.6 317 13 49 .803 .274 Yordan 1.9 154 14 43 1.119 .338 Updated.... WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA Vlad. 2.2 399 15 60 .808 .276 Yordan 3.0 258 22 70 1.064 .314 Folks, unless Yordan slips into a strange unexpected slump..... This race is over. Yordan has played more or less half a season and has 22 home runs and 70 RBIs. Double that and you got a monster. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 8, 2019 17:41:08 GMT -6
Here was the line a month ago. WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA Vlad. 1.6 317 13 49 .803 .274 Yordan 1.9 154 14 43 1.119 .338 Updated.... WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA Vlad. 2.2 399 15 60 .808 .276 Yordan 3.0 258 22 70 1.064 .314 Folks, unless Yordan slips into a strange unexpected slump..... This race is over. But Yordan isn't a junior of a HOFer or getting the national media attention. How will that factor in the decision? Precisely. That’s why I said on a different thread that if Yordan continues to put up for the rest of September the numbers he put up for the first week of September, they may give the ROY to Vlad Jr. IMO Yordan has to beat Vlad Jr clearly in every one of the stats that count. If it is close, I think they give the ROY to their media darling Vlad Jr. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 8, 2019 20:00:16 GMT -6
Yordan is clearly better than Vlad jr.......in mu opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 20:30:07 GMT -6
Here was the line a month ago. WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA Vlad. 1.6 317 13 49 .803 .274 Yordan 1.9 154 14 43 1.119 .338 Updated.... WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA Vlad. 2.2 399 15 60 .808 .276 Yordan 3.0 258 22 70 1.064 .314 Folks, unless Yordan slips into a strange unexpected slump..... This race is over. But Yordan isn't a junior of a HOFer or getting the national media attention. How will that factor in the decision? If the stats are near at what they are today, and Vlad gets the ROY? It'll be the worst robbery of the award on memory. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 8, 2019 21:55:21 GMT -6
But Yordan isn't a junior of a HOFer or getting the national media attention. How will that factor in the decision? If the stats are near at what they are today, and Vlad gets the ROY? It'll be the worst robbery of the award on memory. You are 100% right. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 9, 2019 7:37:20 GMT -6
I can't imagine he doesn't win it unless he just completely craters.
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Post by marshall on Sept 9, 2019 7:45:33 GMT -6
I can't imagine he doesn't win it unless he just completely craters. I can. Never underestimate the power of the East Coast narrative and the writer's reluctance to deviate from it.
It doesn't mean that Yordon shouldn't be the winner, but the writers don't always get it right.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2019 10:41:52 GMT -6
I can't imagine he doesn't win it unless he just completely craters. I can. Never underestimate the power of the East Coast narrative and the writer's reluctance to deviate from it.
It doesn't mean that Yordon shouldn't be the winner, but the writers don't always get it right.
I remember one year they didn’t give the MVP to Albert Belle simply because he was unlikable. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Sept 9, 2019 10:58:53 GMT -6
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Post by sempersmom on Sept 9, 2019 10:59:47 GMT -6
I can. Never underestimate the power of the East Coast narrative and the writer's reluctance to deviate from it.
It doesn't mean that Yordon shouldn't be the winner, but the writers don't always get it right.
I remember one year they didn’t give the MVP to Albert Belle simply because he was unlikable. I'm just thankful the Yankees don't have a rookie in the mix. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 9, 2019 11:05:26 GMT -6
His defense is actually below-average though. Being a 2-way player shouldn't mean as much if you're not even average out there on the field. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Sept 9, 2019 11:07:35 GMT -6
His defense is actually below-average though. Being a 2-way player shouldn't mean as much if you're not even average out there on the field. Without looking at the uniform, it could be the "Big Panda" making those plays. |
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Post by marshall on Sept 9, 2019 11:32:47 GMT -6
But Yordan isn't a junior of a HOFer or getting the national media attention. How will that factor in the decision? If the stats are near at what they are today, and Vlad gets the ROY? It'll be the worst robbery of the award on memory. Unfortunately, robbery happens. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2019 12:21:19 GMT -6
I remember one year they didn’t give the MVP to Albert Belle simply because he was unlikable. I'm just thankful the Yankees don't have a rookie in the mix. I was totally shocked when Altuve won the MVP over Judge. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 9, 2019 12:35:59 GMT -6
I'm just thankful the Yankees don't have a rookie in the mix. I was totally shocked when Altuve won the MVP over Judge. Ditto. It just goes to show how popular Altuve really is even outside of Houston. However, I think DJ gets the SS this year. Altuve just missed too much time. |
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Post by sempersmom on Sept 9, 2019 12:41:27 GMT -6
I'm just thankful the Yankees don't have a rookie in the mix. I was totally shocked when Altuve won the MVP over Judge. I wasn't. Altuve totally deserved it over Judge. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2019 14:09:28 GMT -6
I was totally shocked when Altuve won the MVP over Judge. I wasn't. Altuve totally deserved it over Judge. I think it was close. However, the result disproves the whole East Coast bias. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 9, 2019 14:29:38 GMT -6
I wasn't. Altuve totally deserved it over Judge. I think it was close. However, the result disproves the whole East Coast bias. I still think there is some bias, but it's not enough to hurt our team/players really. Besides, you have to earn popularity by being something people want to watch/follow. If they keep winning championships and awards, they'll earn more popularity. |
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Post by sempersmom on Sept 9, 2019 14:58:40 GMT -6
I wasn't. Altuve totally deserved it over Judge. I think it was close. However, the result disproves the whole East Coast bias. Not even close:
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2019 15:08:45 GMT -6
I think it was close. However, the result disproves the whole East Coast bias. Not even close:
I meant statwise. You can’t scoff at a rookie leading the league in runs, homers, and walks with an OPS of 1.049. |
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Post by batman007 on Sept 9, 2019 17:34:48 GMT -6
Don’t forget widest tooth gap.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 9, 2019 18:08:45 GMT -6
Don’t forget widest tooth gap. I used to call him Black Schwarzenegger. |
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