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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 11:07:03 GMT -6
A month ago, I think everyone thought Vlad, Jr had the ROY wrapped up. But guess what has happened?
WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA
Vlad. 1.6 317 13 49 .803 .274
Yordan 1.9 154 14 43 1.119 .338
I don't think its too earlier to start calling this possible upset.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 7, 2019 11:16:36 GMT -6
A month ago, I think everyone thought Vlad, Jr had the ROY wrapped up. But guess what has happened? WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA Vlad. 1.6 317 13 49 .803 .274 Yordan 1.9 154 14 43 1.119 .338 I don't think its too earlier to start calling this possible upset. If Yordan ends up hits 30 HRs and has 90RBIs, the lesser ABs should not matter. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 7, 2019 11:22:39 GMT -6
A month ago, I think everyone thought Vlad, Jr had the ROY wrapped up. But guess what has happened? WAR. AB. HR. RBI. OPS BA Vlad. 1.6 317 13 49 .803 .274 Yordan 1.9 154 14 43 1.119 .338 I don't think its too earlier to start calling this possible upset. Yordan will deserve it but Vlad will win in. He has the name.  |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 7, 2019 12:51:36 GMT -6
Yordan's counting stats are surpassing all the rookies, even those who have played a full season. If he continues on this pace, he'll be the obvious favorite.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 7, 2019 13:00:58 GMT -6
Yordan's counting stats are surpassing all the rookies, even those who have played a full season. If he continues on this pace, he'll be the obvious favorite. I agree. |
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Post by talshill on Aug 7, 2019 16:09:26 GMT -6
Yordan's counting stats are surpassing all the rookies, even those who have played a full season. If he continues on this pace, he'll be the obvious favorite. The only problem he may have is if enough voters downplay him because of his lack of defensive contribution. AND the fact that Vlad, Jr. has name recognition. Voters do weird stuff for weird reasons sometimes. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 7, 2019 17:03:21 GMT -6
It really annoys me that Vlad Guerrero never taught Vlad Guerrero Jr. to speak English.
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Post by batman007 on Aug 7, 2019 22:11:10 GMT -6
It really annoys me that Vlad Guerrero never taught Vlad Guerrero Jr. to speak English. I don't believe it's a requirement to know English to win ROY. Can someone double check this, por favor? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 7, 2019 22:17:51 GMT -6
It really annoys me that Vlad Guerrero never taught Vlad Guerrero Jr. to speak English. I don't believe it's a requirement to know English to win ROY. Can someone double check this, por favor? I don't believe anyone cares what you care about. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 23:18:58 GMT -6
I believe Alvarez could pull off what Ryan Howard did in 2005 (Win with only a little more than half of the season played). Howard had the HRs and RBIs but Willy was a leadoff hitter.
Guarantee you if Yordan plays the rest of the season healthy with similar #s he wins ROY. Yordan has played in exactly half the games as Vlad and has more HRs and almost as many RBIs.
Ryan Howard rookie stats (2005) 88 games, 312 ABs, 52 Rns, 90 Hits, 22 HRs, 63 RBIs, 0 SBs, .288 BA, .356 OB% Willie Tavarez rookie stats (2005) 152 games, 592 ABs, 82 Rns, 172 Hits, 3 HRs, 29 RBIs, 34 SBs, .291 BA, .325 OB% |
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Post by m240 on Aug 8, 2019 7:28:05 GMT -6
Alvarez and Jr are going to have a hell of a run for ROY. My money is on Yordan.
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Post by olpapa on Aug 8, 2019 7:50:47 GMT -6
I don't believe it's a requirement to know English to win ROY. Can someone double check this, por favor? I don't believe anyone cares what you care about. White nationalist! White supremacist!! |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 8, 2019 8:28:32 GMT -6
I don't believe anyone cares what you care about. White nationalist! White supremacist!! First is true, second is not. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 8, 2019 9:28:49 GMT -6
It really annoys me that Vlad Guerrero never taught Vlad Guerrero Jr. to speak English. I don't believe it's a requirement to know English to win ROY. Can someone double check this, por favor? Major league baseball should make it mandatory that any player who plays in either league be required to learn to speak English and make the club responsible for having someone qualifed to teach them. I am sure some liberals will call this a racist remark.  If Yordan continues producing at a rate close to what he is doing now, he should be ROY. However,. I want be surprised to see Junior Guerrero get it |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 9:33:20 GMT -6
I don't believe it's a requirement to know English to win ROY. Can someone double check this, por favor? Major league baseball should make it mandatory that any player who plays in either league be required to learn to speak English and make the club responsible for having someone qualifed to teach them. I am sure some liberals will call this a racist remark. If Yordan continues producing at a rate close to what he is doing now, he should be ROY. However,. I want be surprised to see Junior Guerrero get it I was kind on the fence on this issue, unitl I saw Sammy Sosa Hablo Espanol during his congressional hearing on Roids. Using the understanding or lack of understanding of English shouldn't be able to give these guys any advantage. |
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Post by marshall on Aug 8, 2019 9:36:15 GMT -6
I'm an unabashed GOD Supremacist. The real one, not the fake ones.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 8, 2019 9:59:39 GMT -6
Major league baseball should make it mandatory that any player who plays in either league be required to learn to speak English and make the club responsible for having someone qualifed to teach them. I am sure some liberals will call this a racist remark. If Yordan continues producing at a rate close to what he is doing now, he should be ROY. However,. I want be surprised to see Junior Guerrero get it I was kind on the fence on this issue, unitl I saw Sammy Sosa Hablo Espanol during his congressional hearing on Roids. Using the understanding or lack of understanding of English shouldn't be able to give these guys any advantage. Lots of these guys understand perfectly but use it as a crutch in an attempt to get sympathy or get away with something. I have heard some pretend not to understand English and later overhear them speaking it fluently. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 12:56:53 GMT -6
I'm an unabashed GOD Supremacist. The real one, not the fake ones. So, not an "equal opportunity" White Supremacist? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 8, 2019 13:01:41 GMT -6
I'm an unabashed GOD Supremacist. The real one, not the fake ones. So, not an "equal opportunity" White Supremacist? I am an equal opportunity deplorable that Hillary whined about. |
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Post by marshall on Aug 8, 2019 13:10:02 GMT -6
I'm an unabashed GOD Supremacist. The real one, not the fake ones. So, not an "equal opportunity" White Supremacist? I'm not a White Supremacist at all. GOD is supreme. He made shades of men (and women) in the image of God.
I do not believe faith in faith does one any good, but Faith in the Living God is of Supreme importance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 13:19:48 GMT -6
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 8, 2019 13:23:16 GMT -6
I believe we should also love one another. Right now in America there is so much that divides us. Most of it started about 10 years ago imo.
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Post by marshall on Aug 8, 2019 13:28:40 GMT -6
Agreed. Let's get back to the Yordan for ROY. It's something we can agree on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 13:42:18 GMT -6
Agreed. Let's get back to the Yordan for ROY. It's something we can agree on. What I fihd so incredibly impressive is his swing. So much power and smoothness. I just can't wait until he has a pigeon of a pitch to crush.... Approaching 500 ft maybe? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 8, 2019 13:55:23 GMT -6
I like the fact that he doesn't fall into the trap that most large hitters fall into: He doesn't just go up to bat looking for a HR. He takes his hits wherever they are, and moves the runner along.
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Post by sempersmom on Aug 8, 2019 14:06:26 GMT -6
Like they all say during the game, Alvarez is must see TV.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 14:58:20 GMT -6
Agreed. Let's get back to the Yordan for ROY. It's something we can agree on. What I fihd so incredibly impressive is his swing. So much power and smoothness. I just can't wait until he has a pigeon of a pitch to crush.... Approaching 500 ft maybe? July 19th's Alvarez homer was 474 ft. According to this article / film, the Astros longest since 2015. I am betting he hits 500 ft at some point, in the next few years. www.mlb.com/video/statcast-alvarez-s-474-ft-homerwww.mlb.com/video/statcast-alvarez-s-474-ft-homer |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 8, 2019 15:00:51 GMT -6
I like the fact that he doesn't fall into the trap that most large hitters fall into: He doesn't just go up to bat looking for a HR. He takes his hits wherever they are, and moves the runner along. YES |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 8, 2019 15:44:06 GMT -6
Yordan has as much or more plate discipline than most rookies and some veteran players. He seldom goes out of the zone to swing at a pitch . The numbers he has put up in such a short period of time say he should be a top candidate for ROY.
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Post by koolade2 on Aug 8, 2019 16:38:50 GMT -6
I was kind on the fence on this issue, unitl I saw Sammy Sosa Hablo Espanol during his congressional hearing on Roids. Using the understanding or lack of understanding of English shouldn't be able to give these guys any advantage. Lots of these guys understand perfectly but use it as a crutch in an attempt to get sympathy or get away with something. I have heard some pretend not to understand English and later overhear them speaking it fluently. One of the first Jobs I had when I got back from Nam was selling Wedding Albums in the Miami area. I got put mostly in the Cuban neighborhood and most of the Women who answered the door would go No Habla English. I quickly learned a trick to get them. After the said the No Habal I would say I see a Spider on you Upper Left Arm 7 out of 10 would half scream and start shaking and wiping the Left Arm. I would then say Not Really. I quit that Job pretty quickly. |
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