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Post by Saint on Oct 21, 2019 15:50:40 GMT -6
As bad as he was in the ALCS, he was solid in the ALDS. I have to believe that a couple days off and a fresh start will help him some. Plus the Nationals don't have the high quality relievers to mix and match against him later in the games. Provided we can make their fantastic starters work hard and get into their bullpen early... It wasn't just his swing and misses, but when he got the fastball down the middle he mishit almost every one for a foul ball. He just couldn't square up the ball and I think it has to do with his long swing.
Two things may have happened: Either the Rays found something out and the Yankees took advantage or he got into a slump and has been trying to fix it which has led to a longer slump
Well for what it's worth, unless he gets hot immediately, he won't be starting any of the NL games at this rate.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 21, 2019 15:55:52 GMT -6
It wasn't just his swing and misses, but when he got the fastball down the middle he mishit almost every one for a foul ball. He just couldn't square up the ball and I think it has to do with his long swing.
Two things may have happened: Either the Rays found something out and the Yankees took advantage or he got into a slump and has been trying to fix it which has led to a longer slump
Well for what it's worth, unless he gets hot immediately, he won't be starting any of the NL games at this rate. I don't think we can risk putting him in the OF.....we need defense out there. I doubt if would play defensively even if he were hitting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 15:56:42 GMT -6
It wasn't just his swing and misses, but when he got the fastball down the middle he mishit almost every one for a foul ball. He just couldn't square up the ball and I think it has to do with his long swing.
Two things may have happened: Either the Rays found something out and the Yankees took advantage or he got into a slump and has been trying to fix it which has led to a longer slump
Well for what it's worth, unless he gets hot immediately, he won't be starting any of the NL games at this rate. Oh I guarantee there's no way Hinch puts him in the outfield in DC. He may be the first guy off the bench though with runners on and we need a HR
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Post by Saint on Oct 21, 2019 16:01:08 GMT -6
Well for what it's worth, unless he gets hot immediately, he won't be starting any of the NL games at this rate. Oh I guarantee there's no way Hinch puts him in the outfield in DC. He may be the first guy off the bench though with runners on and we need a HR If he were to get hot, I could see him getting a start with Brantley in RF. At least until late in the game.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 21, 2019 16:08:14 GMT -6
As bad as he was in the ALCS, he was solid in the ALDS. I have to believe that a couple days off and a fresh start will help him some. Plus the Nationals don't have the high quality relievers to mix and match against him later in the games. Provided we can make their fantastic starters work hard and get into their bullpen early... It wasn't just his swing and misses, but when he got the fastball down the middle he mishit almost every one for a foul ball. He just couldn't square up the ball and I think it has to do with his long swing.
Two things may have happened: Either the Rays found something out and the Yankees took advantage or he got into a slump and has been trying to fix it which has led to a longer slump
Yankees pitched him more four-seamers up in the zone. Yordan's chase rate on heat above the strike zone was 16% the last series compared to 11% during the regular season
Fastballs Yordan got in the ALCS averaged 4 inches higher than what he got pre-ALCS
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 21, 2019 16:12:05 GMT -6
It wasn't just his swing and misses, but when he got the fastball down the middle he mishit almost every one for a foul ball. He just couldn't square up the ball and I think it has to do with his long swing.
Two things may have happened: Either the Rays found something out and the Yankees took advantage or he got into a slump and has been trying to fix it which has led to a longer slump
Yankees pitched him more four-seamers up in the zone. Yordan's chase rate on heat above the strike zone was 16% the last series compared to 11% during the regular season
Fastballs Yordan got in the ALCS averaged 4 inches higher than what he got pre-ALCS
He struck out on pitches down and in. It was like he knew they were coming and still could not lay off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 16:21:53 GMT -6
Yankees pitched him more four-seamers up in the zone. Yordan's chase rate on heat above the strike zone was 16% the last series compared to 11% during the regular season
Fastballs Yordan got in the ALCS averaged 4 inches higher than what he got pre-ALCS
He struck out on pitches down and in. It was like he knew they were coming and still could not lay off. I thnk the scouting reports have finally figured out how to get him out. We've got good hitting coaches. I hope they are working overtime to get him to make the necessary adjustments.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 16:24:47 GMT -6
It wasn't just his swing and misses, but when he got the fastball down the middle he mishit almost every one for a foul ball. He just couldn't square up the ball and I think it has to do with his long swing.
Two things may have happened: Either the Rays found something out and the Yankees took advantage or he got into a slump and has been trying to fix it which has led to a longer slump
Yankees pitched him more four-seamers up in the zone. Yordan's chase rate on heat above the strike zone was 16% the last series compared to 11% during the regular season
Fastballs Yordan got in the ALCS averaged 4 inches higher than what he got pre-ALCS
Honestly, by the time Yordan made it up, we were mostly feasting on >5 era slackers. He is finally is seeing a parade of elite pitching, and finding out it's not quite as easy as it seemed.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 21, 2019 16:24:51 GMT -6
One adjustment he needs to make is cut down on his swings
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 16:34:20 GMT -6
I have a feeling the Astros will take this series handily. I know the starting pitching for the Nats is very good but we all know it's the little things you do in a game that make a difference (and could have been the reason why the Astros are here and not the Yanks).
Hinch can look at tape of the 2017 World Series and see all of the mistakes the Dodgers made with their pitching and situations as well as learn from their own mistakes to win games early and not extend the series out.
Game #1 Cole throws a gem allowing 1 run and Houston gets to Scherzer for a few runs that holds up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 16:38:51 GMT -6
I have a feeling the Astros will take this series handily. I know the starting pitching for the Nats is very good but we all know it's the little things you do in a game that make a difference (and could have been the reason why the Astros are here and not the Yanks). Hinch can look at tape of the 2017 World Series and see all of the mistakes the Dodgers made with their pitching and situations as well as learn from their own mistakes to win games early and not extend the series out. Game #1 Cole throws a gem allowing 1 run and Houston gets to Scherzer for a few runs that holds up. Jay, the smelly fish with the .179 tatooed on its side keeps slapping me in the face. If that doesn't improve and we mimic the Cardinals NLCS mojo, .......... (kaboom)
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Post by m240 on Oct 21, 2019 19:06:38 GMT -6
I have a feeling the Astros will take this series handily. I know the starting pitching for the Nats is very good but we all know it's the little things you do in a game that make a difference (and could have been the reason why the Astros are here and not the Yanks). Hinch can look at tape of the 2017 World Series and see all of the mistakes the Dodgers made with their pitching and situations as well as learn from their own mistakes to win games early and not extend the series out. Game #1 Cole throws a gem allowing 1 run and Houston gets to Scherzer for a few runs that holds up. Jay, the smelly fish with the .179 tatooed on its side keeps slapping me in the face. If that doesn't improve and we mimic the Cardinals NLCS mojo, .......... (kaboom) my opinion is that this series will closely mimic the 17 series which is fine by me so long as it ends the same way as 17 did
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Post by olpapa on Oct 21, 2019 19:12:30 GMT -6
One encouraging thing for Yordan’s sake is that Scherzer’s numbers vs right handed batters are much better than they are vs lefty batters. His OPSA vs lefties is about 200 points higher than vs righties and his K/BB ratio is much higher vs righties than lefty batters. Both Brantley and Reddick have hit Scherzer well in their careers.
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Post by olpapa on Oct 21, 2019 19:19:12 GMT -6
One adjustment he needs to make is cut down on his swings When Yordan first came up I was impressed with his plate discipline. He seemed to have a good grasp of the strike zone and seldom swung at pitches out of the zone. Somewhere along the way that plate discipline disappeared. Now he will swing at anything.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 19:33:21 GMT -6
One adjustment he needs to make is cut down on his swings When Yordan first came up I was impressed with his plate discipline. He seemed to have a good grasp of the strike zone and seldom swung at pitches out of the zone. Somewhere along the way that plate discipline disappeared. Now he will swing at anything. They did a good segment on his swing and found that the main difference is he hasn't been aggressive on the first pitch in the playoffs.
He's been thrown fastballs over the plate for strike one and without a swing and by the time he decides to swing later in the AB the pitches are curving off the plate.
He needs to go to the plate looking for first pitch fast ball and attack
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 19:38:06 GMT -6
When Yordan first came up I was impressed with his plate discipline. He seemed to have a good grasp of the strike zone and seldom swung at pitches out of the zone. Somewhere along the way that plate discipline disappeared. Now he will swing at anything. They did a good segment on his swing and found that the main difference is he hasn't been aggressive on the first pitch in the playoffs.
He's been thrown fastballs over the plate for strike one and without a swing and by the time he decides to swing later in the AB the pitches are curving off the plate.
He needs to go to the plate looking for first pitch fast ball and attack
It might just be me, but his swing now say versus 2 months ago seems less horizontal as it crosses the plate. Less squaring, more slashing.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 21, 2019 20:24:29 GMT -6
They did a good segment on his swing and found that the main difference is he hasn't been aggressive on the first pitch in the playoffs.
He's been thrown fastballs over the plate for strike one and without a swing and by the time he decides to swing later in the AB the pitches are curving off the plate.
He needs to go to the plate looking for first pitch fast ball and attack
It might just be me, but his swing now say versus 2 months ago seems less horizontal as it crosses the plate. Less squaring, more slashing. It is not just you.......He was doing it bad in game 6.
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 21, 2019 20:28:04 GMT -6
I still can't believe we are in the World Series! Mad Max will be a difficult task. I hope we are up to it. I am not too worried about Stras and the rest.
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Post by olpapa on Oct 21, 2019 20:47:33 GMT -6
I’m glad we are playing a team that does not do the opener/bullpen day thing. Strausburg concerns me because he has the wicked curveball to go along with the heat. I look for a low scoring series.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 20:56:28 GMT -6
I’m glad we are playing a team that does not do the opener/bullpen day thing. Strausburg concerns me because he has the wicked curveball to go along with the heat. I look for a low scoring series. I hate 5 hour bullpen games.
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Post by koolade2 on Oct 22, 2019 4:30:48 GMT -6
The Day has Arrived we have been waiting for.
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Post by marshall on Oct 22, 2019 4:40:18 GMT -6
10-0 win for the Astros. Scherzer goes 7 and the Astros feast on their BP.
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Post by olpapa on Oct 22, 2019 7:58:32 GMT -6
Scherzer and Cole both go 7 innings. Astros win 2-1.
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 22, 2019 8:11:06 GMT -6
Happy World Series Game Day!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 8:12:16 GMT -6
19-18 slugfest with both pitchers gone after a third of an inning.
(just kidding)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 8:16:21 GMT -6
My biggest post season tradition is my Orange and White Astros fabric cap that I wore for every Astros playoff game from 1980 until we won the series November 1, 2017.
Since, that cap sits under glass and sits next to the TV for every playoff game. I've windexed and shined the glass cover nicely in prep for tonight's game
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Post by olpapa on Oct 22, 2019 8:23:47 GMT -6
I am looking for good games from Brantley and Reddick tonight.
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Post by Saint on Oct 22, 2019 8:27:08 GMT -6
I think Cole will be dominant. With the Nats lineup, if you can avoid Soto and Rendon, you've got a pretty good chance of shutting them down. Their offense played above their talent in the NLCS. I'm just worried if we'll manage much against their rotation with the way we've been hitting recently.
They have to be patient and get to the bullpen.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 8:32:39 GMT -6
I think Cole will be dominant. With the Nats lineup, if you can avoid Soto and Rendon, you've got a pretty good chance of shutting them down. Their offense played above their talent in the NLCS. I'm just worried if we'll manage much against their rotation with the way we've been hitting recently. They have to be patient and get to the bullpen. I still have these visions of a .179 tatooed wet smelly fish slapping us in the face. And now we are facing a tougher starting pitching line up. I am going on a limb, and say the absolute key stat is going to be whether we can muster .250 this series. If it is anything less than that, the smoke and mirrors miracle of the ALCS won't happen.
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Post by Saint on Oct 22, 2019 8:37:01 GMT -6
I think Cole will be dominant. With the Nats lineup, if you can avoid Soto and Rendon, you've got a pretty good chance of shutting them down. Their offense played above their talent in the NLCS. I'm just worried if we'll manage much against their rotation with the way we've been hitting recently. They have to be patient and get to the bullpen. I still have these visions of a .179 tatooed wet smelly fish slapping us in the face. And now we are facing a tougher starting pitching line up. I am going on a limb, and say the absolute key stat is going to be whether we can muster .250 this series. If it is anything less than that, the smoke and mirrors miracle of the ALCS won't happen. If you want to look at it from a positive standpoint: 1. Strasburg has never thrown this many innings in a season. Fatigue will be a concern for him. 2. Corbin has been awful in the postseason so far against lesser teams. 3. Scherzer had health issues and didn't look good against Milwaukee.
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