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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 13, 2020 17:23:11 GMT -6
I’d be more satisfied if Alex Cora gets a permanent ban.
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Post by olpapa on Jan 13, 2020 17:52:39 GMT -6
Sad day, but not unexpected. Both Luhnow and Hinch deserve to get the axe (and I was a big Luhnow fan). I'm most disappointed in the players that used the system. If they didn't, they should have stood against it. I'm doubly disappointed that there are a lot of MLB fans who'll sanctimoniously cast stones as if their teams are squeaky clean (and perhaps some are). Losing Hinch and $5 million is no big deal; losing Luhnow and the draft picks hurts. My sentiments exactly. When I read the report about Hinch’s actions during all this I was not surprised at all. In spite of the fact that he didn’t approve of what was going on, he just let Cora and the players run amuck and do what they wanted to. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 13, 2020 17:54:47 GMT -6
What will be interesting to watch this season is how the new Stros fan base which has picked up over the last couple of seasons reacts. On the visiting ballpark telecasts this was pointed out everywhere the Stros played
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 13, 2020 17:58:27 GMT -6
Sad day, but not unexpected. Both Luhnow and Hinch deserve to get the axe (and I was a big Luhnow fan). I'm most disappointed in the players that used the system. If they didn't, they should have stood against it. I'm doubly disappointed that there are a lot of MLB fans who'll sanctimoniously cast stones as if their teams are squeaky clean (and perhaps some are). Losing Hinch and $5 million is no big deal; losing Luhnow and the draft picks hurts. My sentiments exactly. When I read the report about Hinch’s actions during all this I was not surprised at all. In spite of the fact that he didn’t approve of what was going on, he just let Cora and the players run amuck and do what they wanted to. AJ always looked like a players manager, now after reading some articles the inmates were running the asylum. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 13, 2020 18:00:16 GMT -6
Crane knew about all of this. He should lose the team. get lost asshole......you are full of shit. |
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Post by bannedfan on Jan 13, 2020 18:07:10 GMT -6
Sad day, but not unexpected. Both Luhnow and Hinch deserve to get the axe (and I was a big Luhnow fan). I'm most disappointed in the players that used the system. If they didn't, they should have stood against it. I'm doubly disappointed that there are a lot of MLB fans who'll sanctimoniously cast stones as if their teams are squeaky clean (and perhaps some are). Losing Hinch and $5 million is no big deal; losing Luhnow and the draft picks hurts. My sentiments exactly. When I read the report about Hinch’s actions during all this I was not surprised at all. In spite of the fact that he didn’t approve of what was going on, he just let Cora and the players run amuck and do what they wanted to. ***** |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 13, 2020 18:09:04 GMT -6
What will be interesting to watch this season is how the new Stros fan base which has picked up over the last couple of seasons reacts. On the visiting ballpark telecasts this was pointed out everywhere the Stros played 2020 is going to be a long year for the Astros players. They are going to catch hell at every ballpark they play in. |
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Post by bannedfan on Jan 13, 2020 18:09:31 GMT -6
My sentiments exactly. When I read the report about Hinch’s actions during all this I was not surprised at all. In spite of the fact that he didn’t approve of what was going on, he just let Cora and the players run amuck and do what they wanted to. AJ always looked like a players manager, now after reading some articles the inmates were running the asylum. He’s an idiot for letting players cheat and doing nothing about it. That’s the same AJ that left Cole in the bullpen in game 7 at MMP vs. the Nats. |
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Post by churchill on Jan 13, 2020 18:09:40 GMT -6
The population of Houston is nearly 7,000,000. Why do you make sound like it's not a big market team? What makes a team big market is getting a big TV contract which is their cash cow. When do we get a new deal? Will the scandal effect their new deal? |
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Post by bannedfan on Jan 13, 2020 18:11:05 GMT -6
What will be interesting to watch this season is how the new Stros fan base which has picked up over the last couple of seasons reacts. On the visiting ballpark telecasts this was pointed out everywhere the Stros played 2020 is going to be a long year for the Astros playoff. They are going to catch hell at every ballpark they play in. Imagine Yankee stadium. Playing Texas on the road. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 13, 2020 18:11:54 GMT -6
Anybody think they have a chance at another job in MLB? I can't see it. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 13, 2020 18:12:18 GMT -6
AJ always looked like a players manager, now after reading some articles the inmates were running the asylum. He’s an idiot for letting players cheat and doing nothing about it. That’s the same AJ that left Cole in the bullpen in game 7 at MMP vs. the Nats. .... and pulled Greinke who was pitching a gem. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 13, 2020 18:16:13 GMT -6
2020 is going to be a long year for the Astros playoff. They are going to catch hell at every ballpark they play in. Imagine Yankee stadium. Playing Texas on the road. I predict the Astros players will have to be pulled off the field at Yankee Stadium in AT LEAST one game due to all the objects being rained down on them from the fans. I just hope none of them gets hurt badly. |
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Post by bannedfan on Jan 13, 2020 18:19:50 GMT -6
Will any Astro hitters admit they took part in cheating? I seriously doubt it, but it makes me wonder what hitters were involved.
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 13, 2020 18:25:24 GMT -6
Imagine Yankee stadium. Playing Texas on the road. I predict the Astros players will have to be pulled off the field at Yankee Stadium in AT LEAST one game due to all the objects being rained down on them from the fans. I just hope none of them gets hurt badly. With Cole being a witness in part of his time in Houston, the NY media is going to be on him like a fly on horseshit before he even takes the mound. I going to be nice to see how he handles it. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 13, 2020 18:26:55 GMT -6
What makes a team big market is getting a big TV contract which is their cash cow. When do we get a new deal? Will the scandal effect their new deal? Probably not as bad as in a NY, LA or Chicago market. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 13, 2020 18:27:35 GMT -6
God damned if I’ll read any of KBs retarded horseshit. Banned and deleted.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 13, 2020 18:28:21 GMT -6
I’ve got quite a few Astro T-shirt’s my son bought me over the last 3 seasons. Not sure it’s safe to wear them anymore. Thanks Astros! Cheaters. I was thinking the same thing, It looks like I will put my Stros jacket on ice for awhile. Don't put it on ice. Wear it with pride, man! |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 13, 2020 18:28:56 GMT -6
Will any Astro hitters admit they took part in cheating? I seriously doubt it, but it makes me wonder what hitters were involved. All of them, until I learn differently. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 13, 2020 18:30:35 GMT -6
Will any Astro hitters admit they took part in cheating? I seriously doubt it, but it makes me wonder what hitters were involved. Every hitter was involved. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 13, 2020 18:35:05 GMT -6
My sentiments exactly. When I read the report about Hinch’s actions during all this I was not surprised at all. In spite of the fact that he didn’t approve of what was going on, he just let Cora and the players run amuck and do what they wanted to. AJ always looked like a players manager, now after reading some articles the inmates were running the asylum. After destroying the monitors, AJ thought his open-door policy would put an end to it. But apparently Cora and Beltran never knocked and asked WTF
He'll be more hands-on the next gig he gets
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 13, 2020 18:35:40 GMT -6
I was thinking the same thing, It looks like I will put my Stros jacket on ice for awhile. Don't put it on ice. Wear it with pride, man! I can get enough grieve here with the Stros holding the edge in the last few playoffs with the Yankees, now this. As I tell them there big boys can know a breaking ball is coming and still can't hit it. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 13, 2020 18:37:11 GMT -6
AJ always looked like a players manager, now after reading some articles the inmates were running the asylum. After destroying the monitors, AJ thought his open-door policy would put an end to it. But apparently Cora and Beltran never knocked and asked WTF
He'll be more hands-on the next gig he gets
That is what surprises me on the whole situation, with him being the in charge person. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 13, 2020 19:14:07 GMT -6
He’s an idiot for letting players cheat and doing nothing about it. That’s the same AJ that left Cole in the bullpen in game 7 at MMP vs. the Nats. .... and pulled Greinke who was pitching a gem. I am shedding no tears over losing Hinch......Luhnow hurts. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 19:23:42 GMT -6
Luhnow does hurt.
Funny to think that Mike Crybaby Fiers is involved in two of Luhnow’s not so finest moments as a GM. The cheating scandal and trading for Fiers & Gump.
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Post by olpapa on Jan 13, 2020 19:53:46 GMT -6
It’s hard for me to believe that Luhnow didn’t know a lot more about what was going on than he is admitting to. What keeps coming to mind is Goldstein’s email to some of the scouts enlisting their help in determining how a camera might be used to steal signs from an opposing team. In Goldstein’s email he told the scouts, “What WE are looking for is ....”
Goldstein was one of Luhnow’s assistant GM’s, if I recall correctly. Hard for me to believe that Jeff wasn’t one of the “we.”
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 13, 2020 19:58:31 GMT -6
It’s hard for me to believe that Luhnow didn’t know a lot more about what was going on than he is admitting to. What keeps coming to mind is Goldstein’s email to some of the scouts enlisting their help in determining how a camera might be used to steal signs from an opposing team. In Goldstein’s email he told the scouts, “What WE are looking for is ....” Goldstein was one of Luhnow’s assistant GM’s, if I recall correctly. Hard for me to believe that Jeff wasn’t one of the “we.” Luhnow knew about all of it and is lying if he says otherwise. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 13, 2020 19:59:05 GMT -6
Don't put it on ice. Wear it with pride, man! I can get enough grieve here with the Stros holding the edge in the last few playoffs with the Yankees, now this. As I tell them there big boys can know a breaking ball is coming and still can't hit it. If you lived in a free state, you could carry a firearm and put the quayatis to that bullshit. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 13, 2020 20:01:51 GMT -6
I'm not even mad at Fiers. He's a scumbag piece of shit, but he didn't make these losers cheat. They chose to cheat, and being angry at the whistleblower just doesn't hold water with me.
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Post by batman007 on Jan 13, 2020 20:07:44 GMT -6
The players claim that it ended up being more of a distraction and not helpful. I figured this to be the case. The amount of time it takes to put up the signal, decipher the signal, relay the message to the batter, and the batter to process the message is so minute. I'm sure It worked here and there, but not enough to be effective. |
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