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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 1, 2020 13:12:54 GMT -6
At the time they signed those contracts, I thought they deserved them. We didn't know the cheating was going on at the time, either. I wish George had signed an extension,but, that doesn't mean we should not try to get a deal done with him now. Saint makes a valid point about choosing between Brantley and a couple of relievers and Springer. We probably got Yuli to sign for about half of what he may have gotten elsewhere so we have that money. Reddick's salary will be off the books so that helps. We need to go after both Springer and Brantley and then be concerned with the pen. We don't know the situation with Osuna as far as I know. If he doesn't come back next season healthy, we need a closer.......Pressly is not a closer. I still contend McCullers is suited to be the closer. We need starting pitch depth as well. With ZG, Framber, Urquidy, McCullers, and Javier we have a pretty solid (not amazing) rotation. With ZG's age and McCuller's health a concern I really feel like we need a veteran that can add some solid depth. So really next year we're looking at needing a minimum of (in my opinion): 1 - Starting Pitcher 2 - Relief Pitchers 2 - Outfielders 1 - Backup Catcher And that's with assuming we're okay continuing with Toro, Taylor, and Mayfield as infield replacements... I supposed you could look at making Diaz the everyday LFer, but his health is a concern too. Edit: And I disagree that Yuli could have gotten a lot more than $7 million after his miserable year and age, on top of the bad reputation with the sign-stealing. I think he took a reasonable safe deal hoping to rebuild some more FA value. We have our backup catcher in Stubbs. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 1, 2020 13:46:01 GMT -6
We need starting pitch depth as well. With ZG, Framber, Urquidy, McCullers, and Javier we have a pretty solid (not amazing) rotation. With ZG's age and McCuller's health a concern I really feel like we need a veteran that can add some solid depth. So really next year we're looking at needing a minimum of (in my opinion): 1 - Starting Pitcher 2 - Relief Pitchers 2 - Outfielders 1 - Backup Catcher And that's with assuming we're okay continuing with Toro, Taylor, and Mayfield as infield replacements... I supposed you could look at making Diaz the everyday LFer, but his health is a concern too. Edit: And I disagree that Yuli could have gotten a lot more than $7 million after his miserable year and age, on top of the bad reputation with the sign-stealing. I think he took a reasonable safe deal hoping to rebuild some more FA value. We have our backup catcher in Stubbs. I hope they go with Stubbs. It was a damn shame to see him crapped on by Baker in favor of a bum like Garneau. We do need another proven starter and we will have to sign one because we have nothing to trade. I am anxious to see where Forrest Whitley fits in to the future rotation. Saint is probably right about Yuli's deal. I am just glad we signed him. We need to dump Mayfield and Toro needs to be back in AAA. Diaz needs to remain a utility infielder. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 1, 2020 15:18:15 GMT -6
We have our backup catcher in Stubbs. I hope they go with Stubbs. It was a damn shame to see him crapped on by Baker in favor of a bum like Garneau. We do need another proven starter and we will have to sign one because we have nothing to trade. I am anxious to see where Forrest Whitley fits in to the future rotation. Saint is probably right about Yuli's deal. I am just glad we signed him. We need to dump Mayfield and Toro needs to be back in AAA. Diaz needs to remain a utility infielder. I am hoping Brantley signs a 2-year deal, with a 3rd year team option... If he will take $12M a year, I'm hoping the Astros offer it.... I have pretty much given up on Springer re-signing here. It's just not realistic... Re-sign Brantley... Go after a starter and a reliever.... And as I said before, trade Correa... I really like him, has a ton of talent... But he's going to cost a ton of money and he's injury prone... Sell extremely high on him this upcoming off-season..... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 1, 2020 15:38:39 GMT -6
I hope they go with Stubbs. It was a damn shame to see him crapped on by Baker in favor of a bum like Garneau. We do need another proven starter and we will have to sign one because we have nothing to trade. I am anxious to see where Forrest Whitley fits in to the future rotation. Saint is probably right about Yuli's deal. I am just glad we signed him. We need to dump Mayfield and Toro needs to be back in AAA. Diaz needs to remain a utility infielder. I am hoping Brantley signs a 2-year deal, with a 3rd year team option... If he will take $12M a year, I'm hoping the Astros offer it.... I have pretty much given up on Springer re-signing here. It's just not realistic... Re-sign Brantley... Go after a starter and a reliever.... And as I said before, trade Correa... I really like him, has a ton of talent... But he's going to cost a ton of money and he's injury prone... Sell extremely high on him this upcoming off-season..... I doubt if Correa is traded. I also think signing Brantley could be a key into signing Springer. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 1, 2020 15:48:48 GMT -6
I hope they go with Stubbs. It was a damn shame to see him crapped on by Baker in favor of a bum like Garneau. We do need another proven starter and we will have to sign one because we have nothing to trade. I am anxious to see where Forrest Whitley fits in to the future rotation. Saint is probably right about Yuli's deal. I am just glad we signed him. We need to dump Mayfield and Toro needs to be back in AAA. Diaz needs to remain a utility infielder. I am hoping Brantley signs a 2-year deal, with a 3rd year team option... If he will take $12M a year, I'm hoping the Astros offer it.... I have pretty much given up on Springer re-signing here. It's just not realistic... Re-sign Brantley... Go after a starter and a reliever.... And as I said before, trade Correa... I really like him, has a ton of talent... But he's going to cost a ton of money and he's injury prone... Sell extremely high on him this upcoming off-season..... I am on the fence with Correa. If the Braves fall short this year I could see them overpaying for him, but that's about it. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 1, 2020 15:51:23 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 1, 2020 15:51:34 GMT -6
I'm not arguing that he doesn't deserve similar annual salary to those guys (albeit with a shorter contract due to age and health). He's certainly a $25-30 million a year player for 4-6 years. The problem is that we already have so much money committed to other players, that it would be hard to offer him what he's worth while still trying to fill all the other holes we'll have with reasonable talent. So that's the question. $30 million a year likely gets you Brantley and probably two good relievers or a good starting pitcher....or it gets you Springer. I imagine he'll be looking at similar offers like what Goldschmidt got (5-years $130 million +incentives) or more. The only possible way I see something different happening is if he were willing to take a backloaded contract so that we have more money available these next couple seasons. We can argue all day that Altuve and Bregman didn't earn their salaries this year, but, when they signed their contracts, they were easily worth what they got. Springer had opportunities for extensions as well...but he has always wanted to pursue free agency. Which he has every right to do so. That's an excellent point....When both Altuve and Bregman were extended, I don't think there was one person here that was not ecstatic about paying they money they got to keep them... I wonder if JV's contract was insured for injury. If so, maybe that frees up some cash for GS. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 1, 2020 16:11:52 GMT -6
That's an excellent point....When both Altuve and Bregman were extended, I don't think there was one person here that was not ecstatic about paying they money they got to keep them... I wonder if JV's contract was insured for injury. If so, maybe that frees up some cash for GS. Good point. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 1, 2020 16:50:55 GMT -6
That's an excellent point....When both Altuve and Bregman were extended, I don't think there was one person here that was not ecstatic about paying they money they got to keep them... I wonder if JV's contract was insured for injury. If so, maybe that frees up some cash for GS. Good point.......I think I read somewhere that the contract was insured, but, I am not sure. We need to free up money for Springer. Getting Reddick off the books helps. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 1, 2020 17:53:29 GMT -6
McCullers as a SP should be a pass he needs to move to the pen. If he doesnt he needs to be moved and stop wasting time thinking he is a SP
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 1, 2020 18:16:13 GMT -6
I am hoping Brantley signs a 2-year deal, with a 3rd year team option... If he will take $12M a year, I'm hoping the Astros offer it.... I have pretty much given up on Springer re-signing here. It's just not realistic... Re-sign Brantley... Go after a starter and a reliever.... And as I said before, trade Correa... I really like him, has a ton of talent... But he's going to cost a ton of money and he's injury prone... Sell extremely high on him this upcoming off-season..... I doubt if Correa is traded. I also think signing Brantley could be a key into signing Springer. Would you be for signing Correa to a 6 year/$200M contract after next season? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 1, 2020 19:22:20 GMT -6
I doubt if Correa is traded. I also think signing Brantley could be a key into signing Springer. Would you be for signing Correa to a 6 year/$200M contract after next season? No. I'd go a 5yr/ $150 million contract provided he keeps staying healthy |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 1, 2020 19:23:09 GMT -6
McCullers as a SP should be a pass he needs to move to the pen. If he doesnt he needs to be moved and stop wasting time thinking he is a SP I like him as a closer, but, his last three starts have all been good. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 1, 2020 19:31:49 GMT -6
Would you be for signing Correa to a 6 year/$200M contract after next season? No. I'd go a 5yr/ $150 million contract provided he keeps staying healthy B/c of injury proneness, I would not even be for that many of years/money..Plus, I don't know if that will be enough to sign if he can stay healthy in 2021 and produces like he did in 2019...I say trade him in the off season...Get much needed top level, young level talent in return..... FTR - I am a Correa fan, but I am an Astros fan first. |
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 1, 2020 22:33:56 GMT -6
Bauer's gonna look silly if he signs with us, after tweeting he lost respect for us
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 2, 2020 8:48:48 GMT -6
Bauer's gonna look silly if he signs with us, after tweeting he lost respect for us If he pitches as he did against the Braves in game one, I don't care how silly he looks. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 2, 2020 9:09:11 GMT -6
Bauer's gonna look silly if he signs with us, after tweeting he lost respect for us Even better. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 2, 2020 9:09:23 GMT -6
Bauer's gonna look silly if he signs with us, after tweeting he lost respect for us If he pitches as he did against the Braves in game one, I don't care how silly he looks. Exactly. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 2, 2020 9:45:04 GMT -6
If he pitches as he did against the Braves in game one, I don't care how silly he looks. Exactly. If we are interested in him, I'm all for it. He and Greinke would make a great duo. LOL I would love to hear their conversations. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 2, 2020 10:51:44 GMT -6
If we are interested in him, I'm all for it. He and Greinke would make a great duo. LOL I would love to hear their conversations. I guarantee you Click is interested. He wouldn’t be qualified for the job if he weren’t. Crane might have different ideas due to payroll. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 2, 2020 11:09:50 GMT -6
If we are interested in him, I'm all for it. He and Greinke would make a great duo. LOL I would love to hear their conversations. I guarantee you Click is interested. He wouldn’t be qualified for the job if he weren’t. Crane might have different ideas due to payroll. Crane is going to have to decide if he wants to commit to spending a lot of money on free agents or be willing to accept mediocrity for awhile. We don't have what would be needed to make any significant trades to add needed players unless we listen to Thomas and trade Correa, and, I can't see them doing that over the off-season. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 2, 2020 11:48:49 GMT -6
If we are interested in him, I'm all for it. He and Greinke would make a great duo. LOL I would love to hear their conversations. Now y'all know he's never coming here. This is a dude who doesn't even care about more than a 1 year contract. He'll get a huge 1-year deal from someone, but it won't be Houston. He hates the team AND the fans. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 2, 2020 12:01:46 GMT -6
If we are interested in him, I'm all for it. He and Greinke would make a great duo. LOL I would love to hear their conversations. Now y'all know he's never coming here. This is a dude who doesn't even care about more than a 1 year contract. He'll get a huge 1-year deal from someone, but it won't be Houston. He hates the team AND the fans. Nathan could get Bauer to come sign with the Astros... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 2, 2020 12:28:18 GMT -6
Now y'all know he's never coming here. This is a dude who doesn't even care about more than a 1 year contract. He'll get a huge 1-year deal from someone, but it won't be Houston. He hates the team AND the fans. Nathan could get Bauer to come sign with the Astros... But, he'd have to promise Bauer to get Realmuto to come catch him. Nathan thinks Realmuto is the reincarnation of Johnny Bench and Pudge Rodriguez. |
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 2, 2020 14:18:40 GMT -6
If we are interested in him, I'm all for it. He and Greinke would make a great duo. LOL I would love to hear their conversations. Now y'all know he's never coming here. This is a dude who doesn't even care about more than a 1 year contract. He'll get a huge 1-year deal from someone, but it won't be Houston. He hates the team AND the fans. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 2, 2020 14:41:19 GMT -6
Now y'all know he's never coming here. This is a dude who doesn't even care about more than a 1 year contract. He'll get a huge 1-year deal from someone, but it won't be Houston. He hates the team AND the fans. It would be Nathan's fault |
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 2, 2020 14:53:37 GMT -6
so let's all remember to blame Crane when we don't get Bauer It would be Nathan's fault |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 2, 2020 17:29:51 GMT -6
so let's all remember to blame Crane when we don't get Bauer It would be Nathan's fault we could blame it on Bregman for calling him "Tyler Bauer". |
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 2, 2020 23:02:21 GMT -6
It would be Nathan's fault we could blame it on Bregman for calling him "Tyler Bauer". I remember McCullers having a twitter spat with him as well If Bauer became an Astro, his new teammates would probly haze him with shaving cream and stuff him in a locker
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 3, 2020 8:58:17 GMT -6
we could blame it on Bregman for calling him "Tyler Bauer". I remember McCullers having a twitter spat with him as well If Bauer became an Astro, his new teammates would probly haze him with shaving cream and stuff him in a locker
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