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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 6, 2020 13:31:53 GMT -6
Trading Correa would be very risky unless we know we have his replacement. Not trading Correa is risky as well....I have a feeling he is gone after next season anyway...might as well get much needed young talent while we can.... let him have a great post season this year, and sell high... Are you forgetting he is very injury prone? FTR, as stated so many times before, I am a Correa fan....Great draft pick...Was great watching him play......He has superior talent ,he is a high ceiling player...But I am an Astros Fan First, do not commit a ton of money/commitment to an injury prone player.... Going forward for the next 4 years, the core of the team offensively are built around Altuve and Bregman, with Tucker and Alvarez looking to earn big table rights as well....Brantley, if he re-signs to a 3 year deal, may be considered long enough to fall within the "future of the team"...maybe 3 years is not enough....Yuli, with his 2 years, to me is just a nice complimentary piece, a good filler. Astros need more young talent to see who fills out the rest of team...so far Stubbs, Straw, Toro have proven themselves not to be starters....So the Astros need to expand their search, and get more young talent, and increase their chances of having young players that can be true starters.... I think the only way to get them is from your farm or someone else's. Our current crop seems a little bare. Great ideas, but I can not take them serious till we hear from Nathangarza.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 6, 2020 13:47:18 GMT -6
I think the ones I suggested outside of Greene, are low commitment / low salary with above average ceiling players.. I think team with already a lot of big contracts, this is probably the most prudent way of addressing needs.... Was my asking price for Correa too unreasonable? I will admit it might be Trading Correa would be very risky unless we know we have his replacement. There is no replacement available for Correa. He's just about the best in the game. Someone can be stuck into the hole, but he can't replace Carlos.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 6, 2020 13:56:42 GMT -6
Trading Correa would be very risky unless we know we have his replacement. There is no replacement available for Correa. He's just about the best in the game. Someone can be stuck into the hole, but he can't replace Carlos. Toro or Mayfield damn sure can't replace him.
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Post by Saint on Oct 6, 2020 14:11:22 GMT -6
I'll be curious to see how easy is it or isn't to attract free agents this offseason. None of whom I listed was a headliner... So I would think that wouldn't be that hard Headliner or not, there will be plenty of players that just don't want to be a part of our organization or will not want the negative attention next year when fans are hopefully back in the stands.
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Post by Saint on Oct 6, 2020 14:12:32 GMT -6
I'll be curious to see how easy is it or isn't to attract free agents this offseason. I just read that Bauer even said he'd consider ALL offers, even from the Astros. Boy would that blow some minds.
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 6, 2020 14:23:50 GMT -6
I'll be curious to see how easy is it or isn't to attract free agents this offseason. I just read that Bauer even said he'd consider ALL offers, even from the Astros. The day he signs with the Astros, is the day I actually I proofread my post before just submitting.....
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 6, 2020 14:32:46 GMT -6
None of whom I listed was a headliner... So I would think that wouldn't be that hard Headliner or not, there will be plenty of players that just don't want to be a part of our organization or will not want the negative attention next year when fans are hopefully back in the stands. I don't think it is a big issue as you think it is.....Despite the negative attention, a player will want to play for a competitive team over a perennial loser.....And the biggest spenders are going to go after the headliners, so the COS players/diamond in the ruff players, the ones I mainly suggested, should be open to playing for the Astros... Also, next year, the Astros look like they will not have Springer, Osuna, Reddick...Hinch and Luhnow have already been fired....On top of that, with my sell high proposition of trading Correa, we're really not talking about the full 2017 team...the more we make 2017 a thing of the past, the better....
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 6, 2020 14:35:36 GMT -6
Trading Correa would be very risky unless we know we have his replacement. There is no replacement available for Correa. He's just about the best in the game. Someone can be stuck into the hole, but he can't replace Carlos. The defense has looked so good from him this season. On that basis alone, it’s hard to justify letting him go.
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 6, 2020 15:23:59 GMT -6
There is no replacement available for Correa. He's just about the best in the game. Someone can be stuck into the hole, but he can't replace Carlos. The defense has looked so good from him this season. On that basis alone, it’s hard to justify letting him go. I am for getting a good return on Correa. But I admit, the team will look completely different with Springer and Correa both gone.
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 6, 2020 15:37:13 GMT -6
The defense has looked so good from him this season. On that basis alone, it’s hard to justify letting him go. I am for getting a good return on Correa. But I admit, the team will look completely different with Springer and Correa both gone. Yes, but being realistic, it is inevitable. I'm looking forward to the next group of rising Stars.
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 6, 2020 15:50:14 GMT -6
I am for getting a good return on Correa. But I admit, the team will look completely different with Springer and Correa both gone. Yes, but being realistic, it is inevitable. I'm looking forward to the next group of rising Stars. Outside of Tucker, I see no rising starts though.
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 6, 2020 16:04:21 GMT -6
Yes, but being realistic, it is inevitable. I'm looking forward to the next group of rising Stars. Outside of Tucker, I see no rising starts though. Alvarez, and whoever we trade Correa for.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 6, 2020 16:15:06 GMT -6
Outside of Tucker, I see no rising starts though. Alvarez, and whoever we trade Correa for. I’d rather trade Álvarez.
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 6, 2020 17:21:50 GMT -6
Alvarez, and whoever we trade Correa for. I’d rather trade Álvarez. He is young and cheap, you don't trade that if your total team salary is high.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 6, 2020 17:36:56 GMT -6
I’d rather trade Álvarez. He is young and cheap, you don't trade that if your total team salary is high. I’m thinking about his health. He already can’t play defense. What use is he if he can’t bat either?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 6, 2020 17:59:18 GMT -6
Just read that Greinke is injured. Anyone heard any details?
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 6, 2020 18:00:43 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 6, 2020 18:41:56 GMT -6
There is no replacement available for Correa. He's just about the best in the game. Someone can be stuck into the hole, but he can't replace Carlos. The defense has looked so good from him this season. On that basis alone, it’s hard to justify letting him go. Right now, we can't justify letting him go if we want to keep winning. Crane is sharp enough to know he has to spend money to keep his core players if he wants to win and keep filling the park with fans and selling merchandise, Getting rid of Correa and not trying to keep Springer would not show Crane is committed to winning.
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 6, 2020 20:17:26 GMT -6
Outside of Tucker, I see no rising starts though. Alvarez, and whoever we trade Correa for. True...
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 6, 2020 22:04:28 GMT -6
Alvarez, and whoever we trade Correa for. True... do you really think we trade Correa? I can't see it.
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Post by marshall on Oct 7, 2020 3:33:23 GMT -6
I just read that Bauer even said he'd consider ALL offers, even from the Astros. The day he signs with the Astros, is the day I actually I proofread my post before just submitting..... LOL!
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Post by Saint on Oct 14, 2020 11:50:10 GMT -6
Do we think the Astros will make a QO to Brantley?
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 14, 2020 12:39:07 GMT -6
Do we think the Astros will make a QO to Brantley? Yes, but hopefully they just sign him....better 2 year/$30M with a $15M team option....than one year $19M....Astros need more time to find replacements in the OF than just one year.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 14, 2020 13:59:19 GMT -6
Do we think the Astros will make a QO to Brantley? Yes, but hopefully they just sign him....better 2 year/$30M with a $15M team option....than one year $19M....Astros need more time to find replacements in the OF than just one year. They need to re-sign either Springer or Brantley. They can afford one hole out there but not two if they want to remain competitive.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 14, 2020 14:26:03 GMT -6
Yes, but hopefully they just sign him....better 2 year/$30M with a $15M team option....than one year $19M....Astros need more time to find replacements in the OF than just one year. They need to re-sign either Springer or Brantley. They can afford one hole out there but not two if they want to remain competitive. It wouldn't surprise me if an offseason failure to shore up the OF results in moving Correa to LF, and going with a soft bat at 3B The roster has enough pieces under contract to field a team albeit a weaker lineup
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 14, 2020 14:39:33 GMT -6
Yes, but hopefully they just sign him....better 2 year/$30M with a $15M team option....than one year $19M....Astros need more time to find replacements in the OF than just one year. They need to re-sign either Springer or Brantley. They can afford one hole out there but not two if they want to remain competitive. Springer is going for the big bucks.... I think Click can re-sign Brantley
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 14, 2020 14:57:34 GMT -6
They need to re-sign either Springer or Brantley. They can afford one hole out there but not two if they want to remain competitive. It wouldn't surprise me if an offseason failure to shore up the OF results in moving Correa to LF, and going with a soft bat at 3B The roster has enough pieces under contract to field a team albeit a weaker lineup Maybe put Altuve in LF and put a stronger arm with more range at 2B.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 14, 2020 15:00:49 GMT -6
I’d rather trade Álvarez. He is young and cheap, you don't trade that if your total team salary is high. You are totally right.....dealing Yordan would be a terrible move.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 14, 2020 15:01:39 GMT -6
Do we think the Astros will make a QO to Brantley? If they don't, they make a bad error in judgement.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 14, 2020 15:02:59 GMT -6
Yes, but hopefully they just sign him....better 2 year/$30M with a $15M team option....than one year $19M....Astros need more time to find replacements in the OF than just one year. They need to re-sign either Springer or Brantley. They can afford one hole out there but not two if they want to remain competitive. Signing one is absolutely necessary...signing both is preferable.
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