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Post by Saint on Apr 7, 2021 12:21:23 GMT -6
Springer is now dealing with a quad issue that could delay his return. He was taking batting practice and running the bases to prepare for his debut tomorrow and has now been sent for an MRI.
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 7, 2021 12:23:02 GMT -6
1. Springer is on pace to make his season debut on Thursday. Let's see how long he can stay healthy now. 2. James Paxton is hurt AGAIN. You wouldn't sign or extend anyone who has ever had a couple of injuries. Does this mean if Altuve starts missing time that we should dump him? |
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Post by Saint on Apr 7, 2021 12:23:22 GMT -6
Yes. I had a similar labrum issue in my hip that ended my baseball "career". Nearly 4 decades later it still gives me trouble from time to time. If the tear is in his throwing shoulder he's probably screwed, and so are the Padres. Good thing he’s not a pitcher. Although, it never stopped Chris Carpenter. Well it did and it didn't. He missed a lot of time. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 7, 2021 12:25:39 GMT -6
1. Springer is on pace to make his season debut on Thursday. Let's see how long he can stay healthy now. 2. James Paxton is hurt AGAIN. You wouldn't sign or extend anyone who has ever had a couple of injuries. Does this mean if Altuve starts missing time that we should dump him? He's already under contract with no adequate replacement, so no. That wouldn't make sense. If he started to consistently miss long periods of time would I say extend him again? Not unless he was cheap. And you're right, I have a problem with committing big money to oft-injured players. Poor investments. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 7, 2021 12:53:07 GMT -6
Man, the Yankees traded for Odor. Dallas is paying most of the 28 mil, though.
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 7, 2021 14:03:56 GMT -6
Springer is now dealing with a quad issue that could delay his return. He was taking batting practice and running the bases to prepare for his debut tomorrow and has now been sent for an MRI. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 7, 2021 14:14:06 GMT -6
You wouldn't sign or extend anyone who has ever had a couple of injuries. Does this mean if Altuve starts missing time that we should dump him? He's already under contract with no adequate replacement, so no. That wouldn't make sense. If he started to consistently miss long periods of time would I say extend him again? Not unless he was cheap. And you're right, I have a problem with committing big money to oft-injured players. Poor investments. I tend to agree on the long-term deals for oft-injured players, especially if they have some age on them and the injuries have been severe. For a guy like Correa who has not had major injuries, a deal of up to five years would be OK as long as the money was right. Right now, Carlos wants a hell of a lot more than he is worth or should get. He needs to have a solid year to be worth the money he has already turned down. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 7, 2021 14:15:26 GMT -6
Springer is now dealing with a quad issue that could delay his return. He was taking batting practice and running the bases to prepare for his debut tomorrow and has now been sent for an MRI. I'm sure he'll make it back in a couple weeks and have a good rest of the season. But what a poor way to start your new tenure. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 7, 2021 14:16:01 GMT -6
Man, the Yankees traded for Odor. Dallas is paying most of the 28 mil, though. They got a couple of young prospects for old big ears. I don't know why the Yankees want him unless they think they can correct his hitting problems. Rangers were fools to give him that money and I think it's funny that they get to pay him to be a damn Yankee. LOL |
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 7, 2021 14:20:13 GMT -6
Springer's gonna be a popular topic on this thread I'm sure he'll make it back in a couple weeks and have a good rest of the season. But what a poor way to start your new tenure. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 7, 2021 14:25:45 GMT -6
He's already under contract with no adequate replacement, so no. That wouldn't make sense. If he started to consistently miss long periods of time would I say extend him again? Not unless he was cheap. And you're right, I have a problem with committing big money to oft-injured players. Poor investments. I tend to agree on the long-term deals for oft-injured players, especially if they have some age on them and the injuries have been severe. For a guy like Correa who has not had major injuries, a deal of up to five years would be OK as long as the money was right. Right now, Carlos wants a hell of a lot more than he is worth or should get. He needs to have a solid year to be worth the money he has already turned down. Major injuries or not, if they're made of glass with minor issues where they get put down every year, their value should be limited. I would have been totally fine with a 5-6 year deal for Correa in the $150 range. It's a lot of money and several seasons, but even if we only got 80-120 games a season, he'd probably be worth it during the stints when he did play. Especially if he can show up in big moments. However, the market will likely dictate that he can make in the $200 range over 7-8 years, and he's just too big of a risk at that figure to me. Maybe if he can stay healthy this year and do well.... But if he does that, he'd likely want even more. I have a feeling he'll be gone and we'll be looking at Storey or Semien as a replacement. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 7, 2021 14:26:52 GMT -6
I'm sure he'll make it back in a couple weeks and have a good rest of the season. But what a poor way to start your new tenure. I'm most curious to see how he fairs against Cole as they battle in the same division over the next several years. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 7, 2021 14:29:00 GMT -6
It's a lot of years for a guy who has only played over 100 professional games once in his entire MLB and MiLB career. These owners deal out these insane contracts, then regret it, and try to pedal off the guy. They will never learn. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 7, 2021 14:29:40 GMT -6
I tend to agree on the long-term deals for oft-injured players, especially if they have some age on them and the injuries have been severe. For a guy like Correa who has not had major injuries, a deal of up to five years would be OK as long as the money was right. Right now, Carlos wants a hell of a lot more than he is worth or should get. He needs to have a solid year to be worth the money he has already turned down. Major injuries or not, if they're made of glass with minor issues where they get put down every year, their value should be limited. I would have been totally fine with a 5-6 year deal for Correa in the $150 range. It's a lot of money and several seasons, but even if we only got 80-120 games a season, he'd probably be worth it during the stints when he did play. Especially if he can show up in big moments. However, the market will likely dictate that he can make in the $200 range over 7-8 years, and he's just too big of a risk at that figure to me. Maybe if he can stay healthy this year and do well.... But if he does that, he'd likely want even more. I have a feeling he'll be gone and we'll be looking at Storey or Semien as a replacement. Of those two, I would take Story. I want to see what we offer Correa at the end of the season and see his reaction. He won't go to the Mets or Dodgers. You never know about the Yankees. I just don't think he'll get close to Lindor money and that is what he thinks he can get. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 7, 2021 15:18:48 GMT -6
Major injuries or not, if they're made of glass with minor issues where they get put down every year, their value should be limited. I would have been totally fine with a 5-6 year deal for Correa in the $150 range. It's a lot of money and several seasons, but even if we only got 80-120 games a season, he'd probably be worth it during the stints when he did play. Especially if he can show up in big moments. However, the market will likely dictate that he can make in the $200 range over 7-8 years, and he's just too big of a risk at that figure to me. Maybe if he can stay healthy this year and do well.... But if he does that, he'd likely want even more. I have a feeling he'll be gone and we'll be looking at Storey or Semien as a replacement. Of those two, I would take Story. I want to see what we offer Correa at the end of the season and see his reaction. He won't go to the Mets or Dodgers. You never know about the Yankees. I just don't think he'll get close to Lindor money and that is what he thinks he can get. I would take Story over Semien based on defense, but I’d be wary of picking up a SS who hits at Coors for a big money contract. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 7, 2021 16:11:31 GMT -6
Of those two, I would take Story. I want to see what we offer Correa at the end of the season and see his reaction. He won't go to the Mets or Dodgers. You never know about the Yankees. I just don't think he'll get close to Lindor money and that is what he thinks he can get. I would take Story over Semien based on defense, but I’d be wary of picking up a SS who hits at Coors for a big money contract. Story should like the Crawford boxes, but, I am always concerned when a guy builds his numbers at Coors Field. I like Javier Baez but I am sure the Cubs will go after him. I would try, anyway. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 7, 2021 19:16:49 GMT -6
Does anyone know why Jeremy Jeffress was cut by the Nationals, and then why no one picked him up?
Any reason why Rick Porcello and Shane Greene have not been signed?
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Post by m240 on Apr 8, 2021 7:04:44 GMT -6
I tend to agree on the long-term deals for oft-injured players, especially if they have some age on them and the injuries have been severe. For a guy like Correa who has not had major injuries, a deal of up to five years would be OK as long as the money was right. Right now, Carlos wants a hell of a lot more than he is worth or should get. He needs to have a solid year to be worth the money he has already turned down. Major injuries or not, if they're made of glass with minor issues where they get put down every year, their value should be limited. I would have been totally fine with a 5-6 year deal for Correa in the $150 range. It's a lot of money and several seasons, but even if we only got 80-120 games a season, he'd probably be worth it during the stints when he did play. Especially if he can show up in big moments. However, the market will likely dictate that he can make in the $200 range over 7-8 years, and he's just too big of a risk at that figure to me. Maybe if he can stay healthy this year and do well.... But if he does that, he'd likely want even more. I have a feeling he'll be gone and we'll be looking at Storey or Semien as a replacement. The only way to get a deal done that satisfied Correa and his inflated opinion of his own value and the teams realistic risk for a long term deal was one with mutual options. Neither side wanted it so let’s hope he has a great year and moves to Miami next year. We will be sitting pretty here to add whoever we want so long as they are interested. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 8, 2021 7:44:33 GMT -6
Major injuries or not, if they're made of glass with minor issues where they get put down every year, their value should be limited. I would have been totally fine with a 5-6 year deal for Correa in the $150 range. It's a lot of money and several seasons, but even if we only got 80-120 games a season, he'd probably be worth it during the stints when he did play. Especially if he can show up in big moments. However, the market will likely dictate that he can make in the $200 range over 7-8 years, and he's just too big of a risk at that figure to me. Maybe if he can stay healthy this year and do well.... But if he does that, he'd likely want even more. I have a feeling he'll be gone and we'll be looking at Storey or Semien as a replacement. The only way to get a deal done that satisfied Correa and his inflated opinion of his own value and the teams realistic risk for a long term deal was one with mutual options. Neither side wanted it so let’s hope he has a great year and moves to Miami next year. We will be sitting pretty here to add whoever we want so long as they are interested. I couldn't agree more. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 8, 2021 8:16:01 GMT -6
Astros are in tremendous shape for 2021-2022 off-season.
If they think Pena is the heir apparent, then they don't have to sign a multi year deal at SS. There is also Nova (plus defense, average ceiling for offense) Plus, they could always move Bregman to SS, and go after a 3B.
I think if they don't get Carlos to sign a deal they feel comfortable in offering, then just offer him a QO.
If Carlos plays elsewhere next season, the best course of action might be the less risky approach, one to two year deals to: Crawford SS, Simmons SS, Seimen, Seagar 3B or Escobar 3B. Might not be as exciting as Correa, Baez, Seagar SS, Arenado, Bryant or Ramirez, but it doesn't bound the team to an expensive contract for multiple years.
And use that money to spend elsewhere. A veteran pitcher, another OF and 1B.
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Post by Saint on Apr 8, 2021 8:29:27 GMT -6
Of those two, I would take Story. I want to see what we offer Correa at the end of the season and see his reaction. He won't go to the Mets or Dodgers. You never know about the Yankees. I just don't think he'll get close to Lindor money and that is what he thinks he can get. I would take Story over Semien based on defense, but I’d be wary of picking up a SS who hits at Coors for a big money contract. For what's it worth, he has a .905 OPS at MMP (albeit in limited appearances). |
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Post by Saint on Apr 8, 2021 8:53:22 GMT -6
Astros are in tremendous shape for 2021-2022 off-season. If they think Pena is the heir apparent, then they don't have to sign a multi year deal at SS. There is also Nova (plus defense, average ceiling for offense) Plus, they could always move Bregman to SS, and go after a 3B. I think if they don't get Carlos to sign a deal they feel comfortable in offering, then just offer him a QO. If Carlos plays elsewhere next season, the best course of action might be the less risky approach, one to two year deals to: Crawford SS, Simmons SS, Seimen, Seagar 3B or Escobar 3B. Might not be as exciting as Correa, Baez, Seagar SS, Arenado, Bryant or Ramirez, but it doesn't bound the team to an expensive contract for multiple years. And use that money to spend elsewhere. A veteran pitcher, another OF and 1B. Yeah they're in a great spot next year with lots of flexibility to make different additions. I wouldn't mind seeing some additions like Kyle Seager and Rizzo in the lineup, and then adding a Syndergaard to the rotation. Heck, maybe even get Ramos on a 1 or 2 year deal at C. Altuve 2B Brantley LF Bregman SS Yordan DH Tucker RF Rizzo 1B Ramos C Seager 3B Straw CF Syndergaard McCullers Framber Urquidy Javier |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 8, 2021 12:07:32 GMT -6
Astros are in tremendous shape for 2021-2022 off-season. If they think Pena is the heir apparent, then they don't have to sign a multi year deal at SS. There is also Nova (plus defense, average ceiling for offense) Plus, they could always move Bregman to SS, and go after a 3B. I think if they don't get Carlos to sign a deal they feel comfortable in offering, then just offer him a QO. If Carlos plays elsewhere next season, the best course of action might be the less risky approach, one to two year deals to: Crawford SS, Simmons SS, Seimen, Seagar 3B or Escobar 3B. Might not be as exciting as Correa, Baez, Seagar SS, Arenado, Bryant or Ramirez, but it doesn't bound the team to an expensive contract for multiple years. And use that money to spend elsewhere. A veteran pitcher, another OF and 1B. Yeah they're in a great spot next year with lots of flexibility to make different additions. I wouldn't mind seeing some additions like Kyle Seager and Rizzo in the lineup, and then adding a Syndergaard to the rotation. Heck, maybe even get Ramos on a 1 or 2 year deal at C. Altuve 2B Brantley LF Bregman SS Yordan DH Tucker RF Rizzo 1B Ramos C Seager 3B Straw CF Syndergaard McCullers Framber Urquidy Javier If the Mets signed Lindor, that tells me they’re buyers and not into giving up Syndergaard. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 8, 2021 12:10:00 GMT -6
Seager is unexciting to me compared to guys like Story and Báez, but I like his hitting for his position. I’m not sure if I’d move two guys to different positions to have Seager at 3B and Bregman at SS, but it’s worth a shot. Defensively, Simmons would be a great stopgap acquisition.
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Post by marshall on Apr 8, 2021 14:23:24 GMT -6
Seager is unexciting to me compared to guys like Story and Báez, but I like his hitting for his position. I’m not sure if I’d move two guys to different positions to have Seager at 3B and Bregman at SS, but it’s worth a shot. Defensively, Simmons would be a great stopgap acquisition. This is probably not going to happen, but Kris Bryant to 3B and Bregman to SS would be an interesting move. And getting a BRYANT on the team is just a bonus. I'd love to find a way to keep Verlander and Greinke, but I don't see keeping either as probable, much less both of them. But pretend we do and keep Gurriel.
1. R Altuve 2B 2. L Brantley LF 3. R Bregman SS 4. L Alvarez DH 5. R Bryant 3B
6. L Tucker CF 7. R Gurriel 1B 8. R McCormick RF 9. R Castro C
Rotation
1. R Greinke 2. R Verlander
3. R McCullers
4. L Valdez
5. R Oderizzi
With these starters, there should be a lot of talent in the BP.
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Post by Saint on Apr 8, 2021 15:27:26 GMT -6
Yeah they're in a great spot next year with lots of flexibility to make different additions. I wouldn't mind seeing some additions like Kyle Seager and Rizzo in the lineup, and then adding a Syndergaard to the rotation. Heck, maybe even get Ramos on a 1 or 2 year deal at C. Altuve 2B Brantley LF Bregman SS Yordan DH Tucker RF Rizzo 1B Ramos C Seager 3B Straw CF Syndergaard McCullers Framber Urquidy Javier If the Mets signed Lindor, that tells me they’re buyers and not into giving up Syndergaard. Our money is just as good. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 8, 2021 15:36:02 GMT -6
Astros are in tremendous shape for 2021-2022 off-season. If they think Pena is the heir apparent, then they don't have to sign a multi year deal at SS. There is also Nova (plus defense, average ceiling for offense) Plus, they could always move Bregman to SS, and go after a 3B. I think if they don't get Carlos to sign a deal they feel comfortable in offering, then just offer him a QO. If Carlos plays elsewhere next season, the best course of action might be the less risky approach, one to two year deals to: Crawford SS, Simmons SS, Seimen, Seagar 3B or Escobar 3B. Might not be as exciting as Correa, Baez, Seagar SS, Arenado, Bryant or Ramirez, but it doesn't bound the team to an expensive contract for multiple years. And use that money to spend elsewhere. A veteran pitcher, another OF and 1B. Yeah they're in a great spot next year with lots of flexibility to make different additions. I wouldn't mind seeing some additions like Kyle Seager and Rizzo in the lineup, and then adding a Syndergaard to the rotation. Heck, maybe even get Ramos on a 1 or 2 year deal at C. Altuve 2B Brantley LF Bregman SS Yordan DH Tucker RF Rizzo 1B Ramos C Seager 3B Straw CF Syndergaard McCullers Framber Urquidy Javier if we want to avoid giving big contracts to injury-prone players, we may want to avoid Syndergaard. I want to investigate what we could do about Verlander and Greinke. My dream signing would be getting Arenado to play 3B and move Bregman to SS. I haven't looked over the FA list so I don't know who all would be available, but, spending money on pitching, another power hitter in the OF or !B would be wise. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 8, 2021 16:56:45 GMT -6
Tommy John Surgery Recommended For James Paxton
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 8, 2021 17:48:28 GMT -6
Padres owner could build a downtown stadium to get the Chargers back with the ten-figure salaries he'll be dishing out the next 3 years These owners deal out these insane contracts, then regret it, and try to pedal off the guy. They will never learn. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 8, 2021 19:07:28 GMT -6
These owners deal out these insane contracts, then regret it, and try to pedal off the guy. They will never learn. I didn't know the previous problem he had with his shoulder. But you are talking about a demanding position of shortstop where you have to range from your left to your right on ground balls, that can easily lead to hyperextend it again. The Padres might have to think twice with the switch of Manny and Tatis to give him reign at short. |
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