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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 9, 2021 11:09:49 GMT -6
Leon went 2-4 with 2 home runs yesterday. He is now batting .474 in June after batting .173 in May. He has cut way down on his strikeouts. He struck out 33 times in 75 ABs in May. So far in June he has struck out 3 times in 19 ABs. It looks like the team is intent on making a SS out of him. He has played 167 innings at SS and just 35 innings in CF so far. He has committed 3 errors in 60 total chances at SS. In that regard he is actually doing better than Grae Kessinger. Kessinger has committed 2 errors in 34 total chances. They need to be serious. Re-sign Correa and make this kid the next CF. Straw and Chas are merely bench fodder. Correa is showing why he should be re-signed. He started slow, but, he is heating up. There is no better defensive SS available. and, we will have the money with Greinke coming off the books. You are right about Straw, and, probably McCormick. I like McCormick better, but, Leon should be better than either of them. Either could be a solid 4th outfielder. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 9, 2021 12:02:45 GMT -6
They need to be serious. Re-sign Correa and make this kid the next CF. Straw and Chas are merely bench fodder. Correa is showing why he should be re-signed. He started slow, but, he is heating up. There is no better defensive SS available. and, we will have the money with Greinke coming off the books. You are right about Straw, and, probably McCormick. I like McCormick better, but, Leon should be better than either of them. Either could be a solid 4th outfielder. I think Chas or Straw are auditioning to be the 4th outfielder for next year. Straw, as stated before, has the higher ceiling. Plus he has some infield experience. Either way they're both cheap, and you need that on your team. I would not be surprised to see Verlander or Greinke pitching for the Astros next year. Of course they will not be as expensive as they are this season. I really don't see the Astros re-signing Correa... Someone else will just pay more... And I'm okay with that, because his history of injuries, makes me feel like he's very risky to sign to a long-term deal. I think the Astros are in good shape for this season and next season. This season I can see them making a trade for a trusted veteran. In the off-season they will have money off the books to sign a shortstop and a reliever that can compete for the closing position |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 9, 2021 12:15:05 GMT -6
I think the Astros are wise to be planning for the very real possibility that Correa will leave the team in free agency this coming offseason. The Astros reportedly offered him a 6-year, $120 million extension. He turned that offer down, calling it a really low offer: www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/astros-carlos-correa-turns-down-really-low-contract-extension-offer-hints-at-exploring-free-agency/The Mets gave Lindor a 10-year, $341 million extension. I think that is the kind of contract Correa believes he is entitled to. I don’t see the Astros going anywhere near that kind of deal... not should they. Just because the Mets went crazy doesn’t mean the Astros have to. The team signed Altuve to a 7-year, $163.5 million contract. If my math is correct, that works out to an AAV of $23.36 million. If Correa thinks that he deserves... and the Astros will pay him... a Lindor-like contract that will have him making $11 million a year more than Altuve, he is out of his mind. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 9, 2021 12:25:25 GMT -6
If Correa stays healthy this year and maintains what he is doing now, he's going to get a $30 million a year contract. I think most of us have been critical about Correa for different reasons over the last couple years, but he appears to have gotten everything together finally. He's hitting, his defense is elite, he's showing good leadership, and he has been very healthy (so far).
He still has 2/3rds of a season to go, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a $300 million 9-10 year deal from somebody.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 9, 2021 12:47:30 GMT -6
If Correa stays healthy this year and maintains what he is doing now, he's going to get a $30 million a year contract. I think most of us have been critical about Correa for different reasons over the last couple years, but he appears to have gotten everything together finally. He's hitting, his defense is elite, he's showing good leadership, and he has been very healthy (so far). He still has 2/3rds of a season to go, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a $300 million 9-10 year deal from somebody. Pass....6 year, 180 max.....and I still don't like the deal, given his injury history and production inconsistency. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 9, 2021 12:55:13 GMT -6
If Correa stays healthy this year and maintains what he is doing now, he's going to get a $30 million a year contract. I think most of us have been critical about Correa for different reasons over the last couple years, but he appears to have gotten everything together finally. He's hitting, his defense is elite, he's showing good leadership, and he has been very healthy (so far). He still has 2/3rds of a season to go, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a $300 million 9-10 year deal from somebody. We need to demand as much out of Bregman as we do Correa. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 9, 2021 13:08:48 GMT -6
If Correa stays healthy this year and maintains what he is doing now, he's going to get a $30 million a year contract. I think most of us have been critical about Correa for different reasons over the last couple years, but he appears to have gotten everything together finally. He's hitting, his defense is elite, he's showing good leadership, and he has been very healthy (so far). He still has 2/3rds of a season to go, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a $300 million 9-10 year deal from somebody. Pass....6 year, 180 max.....and I still don't like the deal, given his injury history and production inconsistency. I don't disagree, but he'll get more. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 9, 2021 13:13:44 GMT -6
Pass....6 year, 180 max.....and I still don't like the deal, given his injury history and production inconsistency. I don't disagree, but he'll get more. He will probably get the kind of deal you suggest that he will get. It just won’t be from Houston. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 9, 2021 13:26:18 GMT -6
I don't disagree, but he'll get more. He will probably get the kind of deal you suggest that he will get. It just won’t be from Houston. I would say that depends on how much he impresses Crane this year, and how well our team does. If he were to lead us to another pennant or better, we might be surprised. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 9, 2021 13:54:38 GMT -6
If Correa stays healthy this year and maintains what he is doing now, he's going to get a $30 million a year contract. I think most of us have been critical about Correa for different reasons over the last couple years, but he appears to have gotten everything together finally. He's hitting, his defense is elite, he's showing good leadership, and he has been very healthy (so far). He still has 2/3rds of a season to go, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a $300 million 9-10 year deal from somebody. I have a real problem with players who miss 1/3 of a season (through injury or through sucking) and then asking for $30,000,000/year |
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Post by Saint on Jun 9, 2021 14:07:32 GMT -6
If Correa stays healthy this year and maintains what he is doing now, he's going to get a $30 million a year contract. I think most of us have been critical about Correa for different reasons over the last couple years, but he appears to have gotten everything together finally. He's hitting, his defense is elite, he's showing good leadership, and he has been very healthy (so far). He still has 2/3rds of a season to go, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a $300 million 9-10 year deal from somebody. I have a real problem with players who miss 1/3 of a season (through injury or through sucking) and then asking for $30,000,000/year I agree, but if someone wants to pay him... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 9, 2021 14:12:02 GMT -6
If we take into consideration the time Correa has spent on the IL, I don[t see how he can expect to get a deal similar to what the Mets gave Lindor. I think the 6/$120 million was low and I'm not surprised he turned it down. But, he is nuts if he thinks he should get $30 million a year based on what he has done. He has been clutch in the post-season most of the time, and, he is currently getting on base and driving in runs. He is making a case for a good, long-term deal, but, not at $30 million a year. True, he is hot right now, but, he has also had a period of doing nothing. He has always been a streaky hitter. His defense is elite and consistent. He began to show leadership qualities in the post-season last year and is continuing to do that, especially with our young pitchers.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 9, 2021 14:16:17 GMT -6
I have a real problem with players who miss 1/3 of a season (through injury or through sucking) and then asking for $30,000,000/year I agree, but if someone wants to pay him... Somebody may offer him 6-7 years at $30 million a year or maybe more than that. I don't think we should. I'd max out an offer to him at 6/$150 million. He needs to remember that he isn't the only top FA shortstop that will be on the market.......Baez, Seager, and Story may have something to do with what Correa can get. In my opinion, Carlos is the best SS of the four. It will also be interesting to see if he stays off the IL this season.....so far, so good. This being a contract year may influence that to some extent. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 9, 2021 14:25:55 GMT -6
If Correa stays healthy this year and maintains what he is doing now, he's going to get a $30 million a year contract. I think most of us have been critical about Correa for different reasons over the last couple years, but he appears to have gotten everything together finally. He's hitting, his defense is elite, he's showing good leadership, and he has been very healthy (so far). He still has 2/3rds of a season to go, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a $300 million 9-10 year deal from somebody. I have a real problem with players who miss 1/3 of a season (through injury or through sucking) and then asking for $30,000,000/year The problem is you just know if he signs elsewhere, he’ll hit a WS walkoff bomb against us. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jun 9, 2021 14:49:39 GMT -6
I have a real problem with players who miss 1/3 of a season (through injury or through sucking) and then asking for $30,000,000/year The problem is you just know if he signs elsewhere, he’ll hit a WS walkoff bomb against us. Not if he is in the American League.  |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 9, 2021 20:22:37 GMT -6
I'm gonna miss Correa. He's streaky at the plate but his defense can't be replaced
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 9, 2021 20:38:37 GMT -6
I'm gonna miss Correa. He's streaky at the plate but his defense can't be replaced He will be very difficult to replace, especially defensively. He is an elite SS. I am afraid it will cost us $30 million a year to keep him, and, I doubt they give him that much. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 9, 2021 20:47:07 GMT -6
I'm gonna miss Correa. He's streaky at the plate but his defense can't be replaced He will be very difficult to replace, especially defensively. He is an elite SS. I am afraid it will cost us $30 million a year to keep him, and, I doubt they give him that much. |
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Post by m240 on Jun 9, 2021 20:48:15 GMT -6
I give Correa about a10% chance of finishing the season like he is right now. It just ain’t going to happen. But even if it does the team that signs him for 30mm per year will learn to regret it.
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Post by olpapa on Jun 10, 2021 6:25:46 GMT -6
I give Correa about a10% chance of finishing the season like he is right now. It just ain’t going to happen. But even if it does the team that signs him for 30mm per year will learn to regret it. Yessir. $30 million (or more) a year for 10 +/- years. Has there ever been a deal of that many years that the team was not regretting it well before the contract expired? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 10, 2021 6:28:12 GMT -6
I give Correa about a10% chance of finishing the season like he is right now. It just ain’t going to happen. But even if it does the team that signs him for 30mm per year will learn to regret it. Yessir. $30 million (or more) a year for 10 +/- years. Has there ever been a deal of that many years that the team was not regretting it well before the contract expired? Exactly. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 10, 2021 6:41:06 GMT -6
Yessir. $30 million (or more) a year for 10 +/- years. Has there ever been a deal of that many years that the team was not regretting it well before the contract expired? Exactly. I’ve never seen a player yet who didn’t bust his rear in his contract year. More often than not once they have the big contract in hand, they regress.... sometimes drastically. I just looked at Lindor’s numbers for this year. He is batting .217 with a .650 OPS. He is on a pace to hit 15 home runs this season after having hit 30+ each of the last 3 full seasons. |
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Post by m240 on Jun 10, 2021 6:52:40 GMT -6
I give Correa about a10% chance of finishing the season like he is right now. It just ain’t going to happen. But even if it does the team that signs him for 30mm per year will learn to regret it. Yessir. $30 million (or more) a year for 10 +/- years. Has there ever been a deal of that many years that the team was not regretting it well before the contract expired? None that I recall. On a different note, Leon has his eyes back now. He drew 4 walks last night and his ops is approaching 800. Good to see, real good to see |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 10, 2021 9:29:27 GMT -6
I’ve never seen a player yet who didn’t bust his rear in his contract year. More often than not once they have the big contract in hand, they regress.... sometimes drastically. I just looked at Lindor’s numbers for this year. He is batting .217 with a .650 OPS. He is on a pace to hit 15 home runs this season after having hit 30+ each of the last 3 full seasons. It didn't take Drayton long to regret signing Richard Hidalgo to that big deal right after he had a career year. Hidalgo was a total bust after signing it. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 10, 2021 13:38:43 GMT -6
Olpapa, what's the story on catcher Michael Papiersk?....I know it is only 21 games, but he is raking in Sugarland. Before playing in AAA, if you look at his stats, you wonder how he got promoted.
While, we are it, what about Bryan De La Cruz, 24 year old OF. His minor league stats are more indicative of a player that has produced at each level. Is he worth keeping an eye on?
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Post by olpapa on Jun 10, 2021 14:20:13 GMT -6
Olpapa, what's the story on catcher Michael Papiersk?....I know it is only 21 games, but he is raking in Sugarland. Before playing in AAA, if you look at his stats, you wonder how he got promoted. While, we are it, what about Bryan De La Cruz, 24 year old OF. His minor league stats are more indicative of a player that has produced at each level. Is he worth keeping an eye on? I don’t know what to think about Papierski. Like you say, he has never before put up the numbers he is producing this year. I keep thinking he will start slumping and return to being the no-bat player he was before, but so far he hasn’t. De La Cruz has been in the Astros system since he was signed as a 16 year old. He has put up fair numbers in past years. Nothing to get excited about though. He is off to a good start. I see him as a player similar to Chas. He may make a 4th outfielder for some MLB team one day. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 10, 2021 15:43:48 GMT -6
Olpapa, what's the story on catcher Michael Papiersk?....I know it is only 21 games, but he is raking in Sugarland. Before playing in AAA, if you look at his stats, you wonder how he got promoted. While, we are it, what about Bryan De La Cruz, 24 year old OF. His minor league stats are more indicative of a player that has produced at each level. Is he worth keeping an eye on? I don’t know what to think about Papierski. Like you say, he has never before put up the numbers he is producing this year. I keep thinking he will start slumping and return to being the no-bat player he was before, but so far he hasn’t. De La Cruz has been in the Astros system since he was signed as a 16 year old. He has put up fair numbers in past years. Nothing to get excited about though. He is off to a good start. I see him as a player similar to Chas. He may make a 4th outfielder for some MLB team one day. So it's mainly Siri and Leon, for top future hitters.. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 10, 2021 17:22:04 GMT -6
I don’t know what to think about Papierski. Like you say, he has never before put up the numbers he is producing this year. I keep thinking he will start slumping and return to being the no-bat player he was before, but so far he hasn’t. De La Cruz has been in the Astros system since he was signed as a 16 year old. He has put up fair numbers in past years. Nothing to get excited about though. He is off to a good start. I see him as a player similar to Chas. He may make a 4th outfielder for some MLB team one day. So it's mainly Siri and Leon, for top future hitters.. I don’t know if I would consider Siri one of our top future hitters. He is 25 years old, has been playing pro ball since 2013. He has been with the Reds, Mariners and Giants organizations before signing with Houston as a free agent. As far as I can tell he has never been called up to a major league team. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 10, 2021 18:03:33 GMT -6
So it's mainly Siri and Leon, for top future hitters.. I don’t know if I would consider Siri one of our top future hitters. He is 25 years old, has been playing pro ball since 2013. He has been with the Reds, Mariners and Giants organizations before signing with Houston as a free agent. As far as I can tell he has never been called up to a major league team. Zach Daniels, Korey Lee?... Come on, throw us a bone here.... |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 10, 2021 18:33:51 GMT -6
I don’t know if I would consider Siri one of our top future hitters. He is 25 years old, has been playing pro ball since 2013. He has been with the Reds, Mariners and Giants organizations before signing with Houston as a free agent. As far as I can tell he has never been called up to a major league team. Zach Daniels, Korey Lee?... Come on, throw us a bone here.... Matthew Barefoot |
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