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Post by olpapa on Sept 26, 2021 18:37:01 GMT -6
Once this team is mercifully eliminated this season, surely Dusty will be shown the door. Who is available that you would like to see hired to replace Dusty as Astros manager? Unfortunately the A’s have exercised their option on Bob Melvin for the 2022 season. The Padres will likely bring back Bruce Bochy. Who else is or may be available?
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 26, 2021 18:52:31 GMT -6
Dusty can go and take Strom with him. I think it’s time to go back to a manager who doesn’t take Geritol.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 26, 2021 19:30:52 GMT -6
Once this team is mercifully eliminated this season, surely Dusty will be shown the door. Who is available that you would like to see hired to replace Dusty as Astros manager? Unfortunately the A’s have exercised their option on Bob Melvin for the 2022 season. The Padres will likely bring back Bruce Bochy. Who else is or may be available? A-Aron Boone.
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Post by olpapa on Sept 26, 2021 19:34:54 GMT -6
Once this team is mercifully eliminated this season, surely Dusty will be shown the door. Who is available that you would like to see hired to replace Dusty as Astros manager? Unfortunately the A’s have exercised their option on Bob Melvin for the 2022 season. The Padres will likely bring back Bruce Bochy. Who else is or may be available? A-Aron Boone. Say it right!!
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Post by olpapa on Sept 26, 2021 19:48:24 GMT -6
Clint Hurdle?
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 26, 2021 19:50:46 GMT -6
We don't need a Yankee castoff who gets his ass fired. Boone hasn't done shit with the Yankees so why would we want him? The new manager should be able to hire his own coaches. If whoever it is wants to keep Strom, that's up to him. I will also go on record as saying NO to hiring Joe Espada or any of the current coaches. If Dusty goes.......and surely he will....he needs to take Centron, Snitker, and Omar Lopez with him.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 26, 2021 19:53:21 GMT -6
I have no problem with him, but, I do not want Showalter. We do need someone who can run the team instead of allowing the players to do as they see fit.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 26, 2021 19:55:00 GMT -6
Dusty can go and take Strom with him. I think it’s time to go back to a manager who doesn’t take Geritol. I didn't want one who takes Geritol in the first place. I also don't want one who wears a clown suit while managing the team.
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Post by olpapa on Sept 26, 2021 19:57:14 GMT -6
John Farrell?
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Post by olpapa on Sept 26, 2021 19:59:19 GMT -6
I have no problem with him, but, I do not want Showalter. We do need someone who can run the team instead of allowing the players to do as they see fit. Hurdle doesn’t strike me as a guy who would let the players run the team.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 26, 2021 20:04:57 GMT -6
I have no problem with him, but, I do not want Showalter. We do need someone who can run the team instead of allowing the players to do as they see fit. Hurdle doesn’t strike me as a guy who would let the players run the team. He doesn't strike me that way, either. I think Dusty has lost the clubhouse. He managed to piss off both Framber and Yordan on this trip and his actions probably did little to help their confidence. You could see it all over Framber after Dusty pulled him. His incompetence has become evident and the players know he is hurting them. I doubt if seeing that he wants to return next season is inspiring to any of them.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 26, 2021 20:42:11 GMT -6
I just want a coaching staff that doesn’t have the hitters woefully unprepared for a defensive shift. I also don’t want one that has its relievers rarely throw strikes.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 26, 2021 22:39:06 GMT -6
I just want a coaching staff that doesn’t have the hitters woefully unprepared for a defensive shift. I also don’t want one that has its relievers rarely throw strikes. And we don't want an old, worn out retread like Dusty who has been managing for year, has had good talent, and never won with it. We also need one who knows how to manage a pitching staff. For some reason, former catchers seem to make better managers than the others. Bochy, Hinch, Servais, and Melvin come to mind. Many don't like Brad Ausmus, but, he would be better than some I can name. He would be a big improvement over the incompetent clown we have now.
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Post by Saint on Sept 27, 2021 11:44:44 GMT -6
I think Espada is more than deserving of a chance and I think our players respect him.
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 27, 2021 12:07:23 GMT -6
Mark Kotsay is a name I have heard mentioned over the last year or so throughout the league. Maybe we should look at him if Dusty leaves.
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Post by olpapa on Sept 28, 2021 15:01:03 GMT -6
Matt Quatraro is another good candidate. He was primarily a catcher in the minor leagues so he has some experience handling pitchers. He has been on the coaching staff of Kevin Cash for 4 years. That looks good on a resume.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 28, 2021 15:33:03 GMT -6
It's funny that Dustbag cut off Crane's option of quietly firing him and calling it retiring, by coming out in the open and telling reporters he wants to stay next season.
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 28, 2021 15:44:22 GMT -6
It's funny that Dustbag cut off Crane's option of quietly firing him and calling it retiring, by coming out in the open and telling reporters he wants to stay next season. Yeah that sucked, and was unfortunate
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 28, 2021 15:55:05 GMT -6
As much as I dislike Dusty as our manager, showing him the door if he wants to return would be a mistake. He's the only source of goodwill our team receives from the non-local press, and he's a magnet for free-agent position-players. I don't think Brantley would've re-signed had Dusty not been in the fold
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 28, 2021 16:03:51 GMT -6
As much as I dislike Dusty as our manager, showing him the door if he wants to return would be a mistake. He's the only source of goodwill our team receives from the non-local press, and he's a magnet for free-agent position-players. I don't think Brantley would've re-signed had Dusty not been in the fold Surely players know enough about the game to see (as we all do) that Dusty doesn't know how to manage...right?
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 28, 2021 16:10:41 GMT -6
As much as I dislike Dusty as our manager, showing him the door if he wants to return would be a mistake. He's the only source of goodwill our team receives from the non-local press, and he's a magnet for free-agent position-players. I don't think Brantley would've re-signed had Dusty not been in the fold Surely players know enough about the game to see (as we all do) that Dusty doesn't know how to manage...right? I doubt they bitch about the lineup card as much as the fans do, if that's what you mean
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 28, 2021 17:00:01 GMT -6
As much as I dislike Dusty as our manager, showing him the door if he wants to return would be a mistake. He's the only source of goodwill our team receives from the non-local press, and he's a magnet for free-agent position-players. I don't think Brantley would've re-signed had Dusty not been in the fold What would make you think Dusty is a "magnet for FA position players"? I also wonder why anyone thinks he had anything to do with Brantley re-signing. I have never seen anything that indicated it. Right after Dusty announced he wanted to return is about the same time the team starting playing terrible. Of course, that may be a coincidence. If Crane is even considering bringing him back, he isn't dedicated to winning. Dusty is incompetent and keeps proving it. After saying Dusty attracts free agents and should be allowed to return if he wants to, don't you ever call me a clown again. LOL Being a source of goodwill is great, but, it doesn't win championships.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 28, 2021 17:01:09 GMT -6
It's funny that Dustbag cut off Crane's option of quietly firing him and calling it retiring, by coming out in the open and telling reporters he wants to stay next season. Yeah that sucked, and was unfortunate Very poor timing. Seems like we started looking like shit about the same time that came out. I doubt if the players want him back.
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 28, 2021 18:18:03 GMT -6
Yeah that sucked, and was unfortunate Very poor timing. Seems like we started looking like shit about the same time that came out. I doubt if the players want him back. I doubt that is the case for the players, he is known to be a top player coach....But for those that follow the game, arm chair GMs (all of us), I would say he is not liked.... I was hoping Astros win WS this year, and he retires....And Astros get a good manager and Click does well in FA, and Astros are in good shape for next year.... I don't dislike DB like you, not even close, but I do hope it is his last season.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 28, 2021 18:59:32 GMT -6
Very poor timing. Seems like we started looking like shit about the same time that came out. I doubt if the players want him back. I doubt that is the case for the players, he is known to be a top player coach....But for those that follow the game, arm chair GMs (all of us), I would say he is not liked.... I was hoping Astros win WS this year, and he retires....And Astros get a good manager and Click does well in FA, and Astros are in good shape for next year.... I don't dislike DB like you, not even close, but I do hope it is his last season. I think he's a good man.....just a lousy manager.
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 28, 2021 19:14:11 GMT -6
As much as I dislike Dusty as our manager, showing him the door if he wants to return would be a mistake. He's the only source of goodwill our team receives from the non-local press, and he's a magnet for free-agent position-players. I don't think Brantley would've re-signed had Dusty not been in the fold What would make you think Dusty is a "magnet for FA position players"? I also wonder why anyone thinks he had anything to do with Brantley re-signing. I have never seen anything that indicated it. Right after Dusty announced he wanted to return is about the same time the team starting playing terrible. Of course, that may be a coincidence. If Crane is even considering bringing him back, he isn't dedicated to winning. Dusty is incompetent and keeps proving it. After saying Dusty attracts free agents and should be allowed to return if he wants to, don't you ever call me a clown again. LOL Being a source of goodwill is great, but, it doesn't win championships. Since you haven't been paying attention, the media has been building a narrative since the Straw trade for when Dusty and the Astros part ways. This narrative will have a villain, since that's what the media does. Dusty is well-liked by players and sportswriters across the game, so the break-up will affect free-agent signings in my estimation
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 29, 2021 8:20:47 GMT -6
I want Dusty to stay. If he retires after winning the World Serious, that would work too.
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Post by Saint on Sept 29, 2021 8:42:50 GMT -6
Win the WS (or at least a pennant). Dusty retires and walks off as a folksy baseball hero. Promote Espada. Offer a QO to CC. Get a good free agent SS or 3B. Get a couple veteran relievers and a veteran SP. Gamble on a veteran power hitting corner IF/OF reclamation project. Be open-minded to Yordan trades. Have another good season.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 29, 2021 15:15:35 GMT -6
What would make you think Dusty is a "magnet for FA position players"? I also wonder why anyone thinks he had anything to do with Brantley re-signing. I have never seen anything that indicated it. Right after Dusty announced he wanted to return is about the same time the team starting playing terrible. Of course, that may be a coincidence. If Crane is even considering bringing him back, he isn't dedicated to winning. Dusty is incompetent and keeps proving it. After saying Dusty attracts free agents and should be allowed to return if he wants to, don't you ever call me a clown again. LOL Being a source of goodwill is great, but, it doesn't win championships. Since you haven't been paying attention, the media has been building a narrative since the Straw trade for when Dusty and the Astros part ways. This narrative will have a villain, since that's what the media does. Dusty is well-liked by players and sportswriters across the game, so the break-up will affect free-agent signings in my estimationI haven't been paying attention! LOL I am not the one who thinks Dusty is "a magnet for FA position players". Name ONE that has signed because of his presence? Don't say Brantley because Dusty had nothing to do with it......period. True, he is well-liked, but, a lot of guys are well-liked who make lousy managers for baseball teams. Who gives a shit if he's liked by sportswriters.......how many games do they help win? I paid close attention to Dusty's comments after the Straw trade. If Dusty voiced disapproval PRIOR to the trade, and, Click ignored him, that should tell Dusty that his opinion on personnel matters doesn't carry much weight. Since he has been offered no contract extension, if he had any sense, he'd just let his contract expire at the end of the season and go home to Oakland, SF, or wherever he calls home. If Dusty thinks he got this job because he was at the top of the list of candidates, he's fooling himself. His hire was nothing but a PR move designed to appease the Commissioner's office after the sign stealing scandal. He was hired because he's black which would keep some from whining that a black candidate wasn't considered, and, because he is well respected throughout baseball circles. He sure as hell wasn't hired because of his track record of producing winners. He has had good talent and never once got any of the teams to the WS. More often than not, he lost in the division series. The Nats fired him and then won the WS in 2019 with basically the same team Dusty couldn't get past the first round. He cannot handle a pitching staff and that has been shown over and over again. I trust Crane has the good sense NOT to rehire him and waste the talent the Astros have by letting this old clown hang around. Let him go and good riddance.
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 29, 2021 15:20:36 GMT -6
Since you haven't been paying attention, the media has been building a narrative since the Straw trade for when Dusty and the Astros part ways. This narrative will have a villain, since that's what the media does. Dusty is well-liked by players and sportswriters across the game, so the break-up will affect free-agent signings in my estimation I haven't been paying attention! LOL I am not the one who thinks Dusty is "a magnet for FA position players". Name ONE that has signed because of his presence? Don't say Brantley because Dusty had nothing to do with it......period. True, he is well-liked, but, a lot of guys are well-liked who make lousy managers for baseball teams. Who gives a shit if he's liked by sportswriters.......how many games do they help win? I paid close attention to Dusty's comments after the Straw trade. If Dusty voiced disapproval PRIOR to the trade, and, Click ignored him, that should tell Dusty that his opinion on personnel matters doesn't carry much weight. Since he has been offered no contract extension, if he had any sense, he'd just let his contract expire at the end of the season and go home to Oakland, SF, or wherever he calls home. If Dusty thinks he got this job because he was at the top of the list of candidates, he's fooling himself. His hire was nothing but a PR move designed to appease the Commissioner's office after the sign stealing scandal. He was hired because he's black which would keep some from whining that a black candidate wasn't considered, and, because he is well respected throughout baseball circles. He sure as hell wasn't hired because of his track record of producing winners. He has had good talent and never once got any of the teams to the WS. More often than not, he lost in the division series. The Nats fired him and then won the WS in 2019 with basically the same team Dusty couldn't get past the first round. He cannot handle a pitching staff and that has been shown over and over again. I trust Crane has the good sense NOT to rehire him and waste the talent the Astros have by letting this old clown hang around. Let him go and good riddance. Straw > Maton.....but I guess Straw was expendable with Meyers.
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