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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 13, 2021 9:43:09 GMT -6
Wait a sec, haven't all of us made similar comments about players at times? Nah, don’t think so. LMAO. uh-huh. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 13, 2021 9:46:28 GMT -6
Paying Carlos makes about as much sense as me buying the house I’m about to buy: I don’t need it, I just want it. Or, as my wealthy F-I-L once said, “If you actually thought about how much it’s costing you then you wouldn’t do it. But if you want to play that game, then that’s the cost.” If we want to keep this team playing at the level they are currently Crane will find a way to pay Correa and keep this core together. The money will be there. He just has to decide if he wants to spend it. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Oct 13, 2021 10:49:49 GMT -6
Wait a sec, haven't all of us made similar comments about players at times? Nah, don’t think so. You're exactly right. Corch was trying to say others also made ugly comments about players, and he's right about that. But his inclusion of 'all' does not ring true. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 13, 2021 11:04:24 GMT -6
You're exactly right. Corch was trying to say others also made ugly comments about players, and he's right about that. But his inclusion of 'all' does not ring true. You are right because the word "all" was the wrong term to use. I should have said "many". |
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 13, 2021 20:38:15 GMT -6
Damn, people. The Dusty hate is about more than I can handle. You don't play your trump card until you need it. Using McCullers tomorrow is a waste...........olpapa is right that we should have used Urquidy in game 3. Now, using him in Chicago in game 4 is DUMB. No way the White Sox beats him in Houston in a game 5 if it got that far. Now, if we lose game 4 we have wasted Lance until at least game 2 of the ALCS if we get there. Dusty just keeps shooting himself in the foot. I don't understand how you can keep defending all of these dumb moves he makes. He gave away game 3 and now he is working on pissing away the season. The only good thing that would come from him blowing this series is that it would guarantee that we are rid of the old dumbass. Guess what. We beat the f***ing White Sox. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 13, 2021 20:39:10 GMT -6
Case in point: Scherzer just went 7.0 innings, 1 run, 10 K...and took the loss, because the Giants shut out the Dodgers offense. If the Astros can't get to Rodon and end up losing tomorrow, we go from a 2-0 series lead to a coin-flip-at-best scenario thanks in no small part to the umpire and Dusty's management. Starting McCullers tomorrow has to be Dusty's biggerst gamble yet. Maybe, but it was a gamble he won on. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Oct 13, 2021 20:54:40 GMT -6
You don't play your trump card until you need it. Using McCullers tomorrow is a waste...........olpapa is right that we should have used Urquidy in game 3. Now, using him in Chicago in game 4 is DUMB. No way the White Sox beats him in Houston in a game 5 if it got that far. Now, if we lose game 4 we have wasted Lance until at least game 2 of the ALCS if we get there. Dusty just keeps shooting himself in the foot. I don't understand how you can keep defending all of these dumb moves he makes. He gave away game 3 and now he is working on pissing away the season. The only good thing that would come from him blowing this series is that it would guarantee that we are rid of the old dumbass. Guess what. We beat the f***ing White Sox.  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 13, 2021 22:28:55 GMT -6
You don't play your trump card until you need it. Using McCullers tomorrow is a waste...........olpapa is right that we should have used Urquidy in game 3. Now, using him in Chicago in game 4 is DUMB. No way the White Sox beats him in Houston in a game 5 if it got that far. Now, if we lose game 4 we have wasted Lance until at least game 2 of the ALCS if we get there. Dusty just keeps shooting himself in the foot. I don't understand how you can keep defending all of these dumb moves he makes. He gave away game 3 and now he is working on pissing away the season. The only good thing that would come from him blowing this series is that it would guarantee that we are rid of the old dumbass. Guess what. We beat the f***ing White Sox. yes. Now you can keep promoting Dusty to be Manager of the Year and urge Crane to give him a new contract. LOL For the record, Dusty didn't have a thing to do with us winning the series. Even though we won game 4, it was a risky move using McCullers. The best thing he did was not screw up making pitching changes the way he did in game three when he brought Yimi in to pitch with a 2-0 count on Leury Garcia who promptly hit a three run bomb because the whole ballpark knew Yimi was going to throw him a fastballl. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 13, 2021 22:31:23 GMT -6
Starting McCullers tomorrow has to be Dusty's biggerst gamble yet. Maybe, but it was a gamble he won on. Oh yes. Now, we can forget all the countless dumbass moves he's made and show total confidence in him. LOL That "gamble" may lead to McCullers missing the ALCS. We can only hope it doesn't. |
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Post by dafish on Oct 13, 2021 22:42:12 GMT -6
Maybe, but it was a gamble he won on. That "gamble" may lead to McCullers missing the ALCS. We can only hope it doesn't. You realize he might have strained it in Houston in Game 5 instead? On the surface I still think it was a dumb Dusty gamble, but how it impacted McCuller's arm is really not plausible in this situation. OTOH, Corch might have a point if someone in Medical thinks that him pitching with the temperature in the Low 60's that day had anything to do with it. But I doubt it. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 13, 2021 23:11:47 GMT -6
Guess what. We beat the f***ing White Sox. yes. Now you can keep promoting Dusty to be Manager of the Year and urge Crane to give him a new contract. LOL For the record, Dusty didn't have a thing to do with us winning the series. Even though we won game 4, it was a risky move using McCullers. The best thing he did was not screw up making pitching changes the way he did in game three when he brought Yimi in to pitch with a 2-0 count on Leury Garcia who promptly hit a three run bomb because the whole ballpark knew Yimi was going to throw him a fastballl. So, instead of countering his argument, you continue to criticize Dusty despite him making the right move? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 13, 2021 23:13:08 GMT -6
Maybe, but it was a gamble he won on. Oh yes. Now, we can forget all the countless dumbass moves he's made and show total confidence in him. LOL That "gamble" may lead to McCullers missing the ALCS. We can only hope it doesn't. What does him pitching on full rest and getting hurt have anything to do with Dusty? That’s weak. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 13, 2021 23:52:46 GMT -6
That "gamble" may lead to McCullers missing the ALCS. We can only hope it doesn't. You realize he might have strained it in Houston in Game 5 instead? On the surface I still think it was a dumb Dusty gamble, but how it impacted McCuller's arm is really not plausible in this situation. OTOH, Corch might have a point if someone in Medical thinks that him pitching with the temperature in the Low 60's that day had anything to do with it. But I doubt it. Yes, if there had been a game 5, it could have happened. The temperature may have played a part in creating the problem, but, I don't think so You are dead right. It was a dumb Dusty gamble. I hope we hear something on him and Meyers tomorrow. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 13, 2021 23:54:11 GMT -6
Oh yes. Now, we can forget all the countless dumbass moves he's made and show total confidence in him. LOL That "gamble" may lead to McCullers missing the ALCS. We can only hope it doesn't. What does him pitching on full rest and getting hurt have anything to do with Dusty? That’s weak. Dusty took an unnecessary risk by pitching him in game 4. He could have had the same thing happen no matter when he started. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 13, 2021 23:58:44 GMT -6
What does him pitching on full rest and getting hurt have anything to do with Dusty? That’s weak. Dusty took an unnecessary risk by pitching him in game 4. He could have had the same thing happen no matter when he started. The risk was the right call. The injury was merely an unfortunate circumstance. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Oct 14, 2021 5:13:07 GMT -6
Dusty took an unnecessary risk by pitching him in game 4. He could have had the same thing happen no matter when he started. The risk was the right call. The injury was merely an unfortunate circumstance. Obviously Dusty broke him. He put him on the mound with only four days rest! Who does that to a pitcher? Wait, what's that? McCullers pitched on 4 days rest ten times during the regular season this year? Pitching on four days rest isn't an unusual thing for any starting pitcher? Oh ... nevermind. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 14, 2021 5:49:58 GMT -6
The fact that yall are still trying to unmongol the mongoloid is inexplicable to me. Give it up, fellas. He will die a Mongo.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 14, 2021 6:11:09 GMT -6
I'm so tired of McCullers getting hurt. This happens every GD year
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 14, 2021 9:20:04 GMT -6
yes. Now you can keep promoting Dusty to be Manager of the Year and urge Crane to give him a new contract. LOL For the record, Dusty didn't have a thing to do with us winning the series. Even though we won game 4, it was a risky move using McCullers. The best thing he did was not screw up making pitching changes the way he did in game three when he brought Yimi in to pitch with a 2-0 count on Leury Garcia who promptly hit a three run bomb because the whole ballpark knew Yimi was going to throw him a fastballl. So, instead of countering his argument, you continue to criticize Dusty despite him making the right move? We don't know that he made the right move. We could have had the same outcome if Urquidy started the game., |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 14, 2021 9:22:04 GMT -6
The fact that yall are still trying to unmongol the mongoloid is inexplicable to me. Give it up, fellas. He will die a Mongo. He needs to start on you since you are more in need. You are great at handing out insults and calling names, so that means you have some issues that need to be addressed. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 14, 2021 9:22:49 GMT -6
So, instead of countering his argument, you continue to criticize Dusty despite him making the right move? We don't know that he made the right move. We could have had the same outcome if Urquidy started the game., By finishing the series in 4 games I would say he made the right move. Shoulda, Coulda and Woulda don't cut it. |
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Post by dafish on Oct 14, 2021 9:53:38 GMT -6
We don't know that he made the right move. We could have had the same outcome if Urquidy started the game., By finishing the series in 4 games I would say he made the right move. Shoulda, Coulda and Woulda don't cut it. But by my account, was Dusty more lucky than good? The dice could as easily came up snake eyes, and we'd had been 50/50 at best in game 5. I understand the shoulda, coulda, woulda aspect, but don't forget Dusty has 1-3 likely more big decisions to make. I hope this success doesn't embolden him toward more of the whacked out unconventional. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 14, 2021 10:17:57 GMT -6
This is the kind of stuff I’m talking about. When Dusty makes a move and it pays off, it’s luck. When a pitcher shits the bed on the mound, Strom isn’t to blame because the player simply isn’t good.
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Post by dafish on Oct 14, 2021 10:30:35 GMT -6
This is the kind of stuff I’m talking about. When Dusty makes a move and it pays off, it’s luck. When a pitcher shits the bed on the mound, Strom isn’t to blame because the player simply isn’t good. Didn't mean to strike a nerve, but lets not forget Dusty is a .450 winning post season manager and has zero WS trophy wins in almost 30 years. This despite being given enormous and ample talent to get the job done..... at least "ONCE". My rememberances through the 30 years tend to make me believe that he "blew it" on a number of occasions. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 14, 2021 10:33:15 GMT -6
This is the kind of stuff I’m talking about. When Dusty makes a move and it pays off, it’s luck. When a pitcher shits the bed on the mound, Strom isn’t to blame because the player simply isn’t good. Didn't mean to strike a nerve, but lets not forget Dusty is a .450 winning post season manager and has zero WS trophy wins in almost 30 years. This despite being given enormous and ample talent to get the job done..... at least "ONCE". My rememberances through the 30 years tend to make me believe that he "blew it" on a number of occasions. I get the fact people are unconvinced. I would just like to see the praise and the criticism more evenly distributed. Having the talent to win doesn’t guarantee a manager garnering a WS championship. There might never again be an Astros squad as good as in 2019. I don’t recall a championship there either. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 14, 2021 11:52:44 GMT -6
Didn't mean to strike a nerve, but lets not forget Dusty is a .450 winning post season manager and has zero WS trophy wins in almost 30 years. This despite being given enormous and ample talent to get the job done..... at least "ONCE". My rememberances through the 30 years tend to make me believe that he "blew it" on a number of occasions. I get the fact people are unconvinced. I would just like to see the praise and the criticism more evenly distributed. Having the talent to win doesn’t guarantee a manager garnering a WS championship. There might never again be an Astros squad as good as in 2019. I don’t recall a championship there either. Hinch cost the Astros a 2019 WS with his decision making...so for the biggest Baker haters, 2019 WS Game 7, Hinch pulled a Dusty. If Dusty can somehow pull off a WS win with this rotation, especially if LMJ can't pitch anymore, then: Dusty Astros Playoff Manager >>>>> Hinch Astros Playoff Manager. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 14, 2021 11:57:14 GMT -6
I get the fact people are unconvinced. I would just like to see the praise and the criticism more evenly distributed. Having the talent to win doesn’t guarantee a manager garnering a WS championship. There might never again be an Astros squad as good as in 2019. I don’t recall a championship there either. Hinch cost the Astros a 2019 WS with his decision making...so for the biggest Baker haters, 2019 WS Game 7, Hinch pulled a Dusty. If Dusty can somehow pull off a WS win with this rotation, especially if LMJ can't pitch anymore, then: Dusty Astros Playoff Manager >>>>> Hinch Astros Playoff Manager. I agree if Dusty wins with this season’s team. That would make Hinch look even worse for 2019. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 14, 2021 12:04:56 GMT -6
Hinch cost the Astros a 2019 WS with his decision making...so for the biggest Baker haters, 2019 WS Game 7, Hinch pulled a Dusty. If Dusty can somehow pull off a WS win with this rotation, especially if LMJ can't pitch anymore, then: Dusty Astros Playoff Manager >>>>> Hinch Astros Playoff Manager. I agree if Dusty wins with this season’s team. That would make Hinch look even worse for 2019. If LMJ is out, Dusty is going to have to the best manager decision making if all time to win this relatively inexperienced rotation. Forget Hinch 2017 Game 7 WS feat, Dusty has now 8 wins to pull off....It would be a great way to end his coaching career...It should overshadow all his previous post season failures. |
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Post by dafish on Oct 14, 2021 12:58:04 GMT -6
I get the fact people are unconvinced. I would just like to see the praise and the criticism more evenly distributed. Having the talent to win doesn’t guarantee a manager garnering a WS championship. There might never again be an Astros squad as good as in 2019. I don’t recall a championship there either. Hinch cost the Astros a 2019 WS with his decision making...so for the biggest Baker haters, 2019 WS Game 7, Hinch pulled a Dusty. If Dusty can somehow pull off a WS win with this rotation, especially if LMJ can't pitch anymore, then: Dusty Astros Playoff Manager >>>>> Hinch Astros Playoff Manager. I really don't see this team winning 8 more. Especially without McCullers. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 14, 2021 13:10:20 GMT -6
We don't know that he made the right move. We could have had the same outcome if Urquidy started the game., By finishing the series in 4 games I would say he made the right move. Shoulda, Coulda and Woulda don't cut it. Just because we won the game doesn't mean Dusty made the right move with McCullers because we don't know if we could have won the game and not used him. If Dusty had started Urquidy and won the game, then, we have a healthy McCullers to start game one of the ALCS and Valdez for game two. Lance would not have been available to start before game 3 in Boston either way. As far as the outcome of the game goes, Dusty's move was OK. But, I'd rather have had him to start game one against the Red Sox. |
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