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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 14, 2021 16:21:04 GMT -6
I'll say this he is interesting. I would see what it would take. He almost replaces Correas numbers. Power is an issue but if we could use Chas Siri or Meyers for a Castillo or Marlins trade that would be beneficial. Story might still be the answer in that department with Pena behind him on the bench. But the Astros are searching for Non SO guys if they add them to the Lineup. They also want High end SPs. Maybe Rodon for 5 yrs 95m? Or a couple trades for some Young Guys? Idk Verlander I don't think he will be back. But the they want him back and have had good dialog with him. So don't count him out. I dont think the Astros can pay Correa 10yrs for 325m so I could see him gone for sure. How about we send Pena, Joe Perez and Peter Solomon to Oakland for Chapman? Chapman makes Correa look like Ty Cobb. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 14, 2021 17:46:36 GMT -6
How about we send Pena, Joe Perez and Peter Solomon to Oakland for Chapman? Chapman makes Correa look like Ty Cobb. OMG. I was messing with Nathangarza! |
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Post by paastrosfan on Nov 14, 2021 18:25:03 GMT -6
With all the shifts the Stros employ, Bregs is in the shortstop position a majority of the time. But the key in that shift was the ground CC can cover. Looking at Baez, he is a strikeout machine, also he also goes into extended slumps. Semien's defense has improved, but a downgrade. If CC wants to go to NY, the consensus of the fans are against the signing, their choice is Seager. CC would face a worse reception than Arod, in the Big Apple, they are still soured on the sign stealing scandal. Baez is a strikeout machine, but plays really good defense. Baez can play third, short and second as being a number one. His elongated swing has always been his problem. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 14, 2021 18:51:24 GMT -6
I didn’t realize how old Marte is. I wouldn’t want more than a two-year deal for him.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 14, 2021 20:41:08 GMT -6
I didn’t realize how old Marte is. I wouldn’t want more than a two-year deal for him. Might be a 4 with options on the last 2 in the 12 to 13 million per range. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 14, 2021 21:01:24 GMT -6
This will be the last year we have Uncle Mike under contract.
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Post by m240 on Nov 14, 2021 21:52:33 GMT -6
Looks like they are projecting Correa will get his 10 year 320 mm deal. Good for him. Try to not spend too much of your signing bonus on massages. That did not work out well for the last Houston guy who signed a big deal.
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 14, 2021 22:14:24 GMT -6
Looks like they are projecting Correa will get his 10 year 320 mm deal. Good for him. Try to not spend too much of your signing bonus on massages. That did not work out well for the last Houston guy who signed a big deal. Guess I would really like Story for 6/125 |
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Post by Saint on Nov 14, 2021 22:29:44 GMT -6
God help anyone dumb enough to give Correa a 10-year deal. When his back goes out at age 30 and he can't do anything but hobble around a corner position for half a season, see if it was worth it.
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 15, 2021 2:40:20 GMT -6
Olczak was a re-sign from this season, he played pretty well. I believe Marquez is a new prospect though, just 19 years old. They just brought back Nolan Riggs on a MiLB contract as well. 6'8", 255 lbs. RHP. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 15, 2021 5:22:14 GMT -6
Looks like they are projecting Correa will get his 10 year 320 mm deal. Good for him. Try to not spend too much of your signing bonus on massages. That did not work out well for the last Houston guy who signed a big deal. Yeah, that’s about 3 years longer than I would pay if I were Crane. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 15, 2021 6:06:53 GMT -6
Which teams would be willing to add a 10-year deal? It's not a long list...
Yankees, of course.
Angels, maybe but they really need pitching...
Padres, but they don't need a SS.
Phillies...maybe. But I think they have Didi signed for another year. Would they just eat that money?
Mets already have Lindor.
Tigers, I can't believe they'd want to get burned by another long deal like that even though the case could be made they could build around him.
Red Sox, would probably rather keep Bogaerts long-term.
Dodgers, too much bad blood and they could just bring Seager back.
I just can't see it happening. I think his best hope for a deal bigger than us would be for a team like Detroit or Texas that is rebuilding, but I don't think either would do another deal longer than 8 years. We'll see.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2021 6:34:27 GMT -6
Which teams would be willing to add a 10-year deal? It's not a long list... Yankees, of course. Angels, maybe but they really need pitching... Padres, but they don't need a SS. Phillies...maybe. But I think they have Didi signed for another year. Would they just eat that money? Mets already have Lindor. Tigers, I can't believe they'd want to get burned by another long deal like that even though the case could be made they could build around him. Red Sox, would probably rather keep Bogaerts long-term. Dodgers, too much bad blood and they could just bring Seager back. I just can't see it happening. I think his best hope for a deal bigger than us would be for a team like Detroit or Texas that is rebuilding, but I don't think either would do another deal longer than 8 years. We'll see. I just wish he would consider a 5 year/180M deal with an opt clause after 3 years...He gets the highest AAV in baseball...Astros maximize their 3 year window with the Altuve and Bregman contracts... And if he can stay healthy for 3 years and be in MVP consideration during those seasons, he can opt out, to sign a more lucrative deal at age 30.... But no way do I want the Astros to offer him a 8 year+ deal... But I am to the point of F'it. Let him go, one less teammate from the 2017 WS team.... Let's get some energy going, bring up the Astros top prospects: Pena (SS) and Lee (C)...If they're the future, let's get them up here to work with the the vets now.. The Astros future is better with starting the next wave of playing their best prospects, than over committing themselves to a 8 year+ deal, to an often injured/inconsistent player. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 15, 2021 8:25:56 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2021 8:50:22 GMT -6
I doubt Correa Will sign before December 1st....But I put the Tigers as the favorites to sign him. If not, the Rangers...Maybe the Phillies, and I would think Astros are 4th most likely. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 15, 2021 11:58:02 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 15, 2021 11:59:37 GMT -6
I doubt Correa Will sign before December 1st....But I put the Tigers as the favorites to sign him. If not, the Rangers...Maybe the Phillies, and I would think Astros are 4th most likely. I’m torn on Correa. I definitely wouldn’t do a 10-year deal, but I would want him back. However, I think the offense needs some new blood. It’s tricky. They can’t keep going to the World Series just to have the same overly scouted hitters not show up when it matters most. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 15, 2021 12:52:48 GMT -6
Yeah, I saw that. That makes six who've declined it, none who've accepted it, and eight still undecided. Early Qualifying Offer DecisionsNovember 17 will be here soon... |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 15, 2021 12:54:30 GMT -6
Let him go sign Story and wait for Pena. Your saving some cash and hoping a change for Story.
Go get some SP and sign Marte. Then you can use one of Meyers, Siri or McCormick as trade bait for a SP.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 15, 2021 12:57:42 GMT -6
Remember Verlander has until Wednesday to decline the QO.
So cross your fingers if you think he will be back. I honestly think he is going back to Detroit or Angel's
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2021 13:02:30 GMT -6
Let him go sign Story and wait for Pena. Your saving some cash and hoping a change for Story. Go get some SP and sign Marte. Then you can use one of Meyers, Siri or McCormick as trade bait for a SP. Why sign Story to a 5+ year deal if Pena is the near future. Sign Bryant, he can play 3B/CF/RF. If Pena doesn't work, then Bregman is the SS and Bryant is the 3B. If Pena does work, then Bryant and Tucker are your CF/RF. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2021 13:04:17 GMT -6
Remember Verlander has until Wednesday to decline the QO. So cross your fingers if you think he will be back. I honestly think he is going back to Detroit or Angel's He could to the Angels if they signed other key pitchers.....But he alone can not make their rotation to be a playoff contending team. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 15, 2021 13:11:23 GMT -6
Let him go sign Story and wait for Pena. Your saving some cash and hoping a change for Story. Go get some SP and sign Marte. Then you can use one of Meyers, Siri or McCormick as trade bait for a SP. Why sign Story to a 5+ year deal if Pena is the near future. Sign Bryant, he can play 3B/CF/RF. If Pena doesn't work, then Bregman is the SS and Bryant is the 3B. If Pena does work, then Bryant and Tucker are your CF/RF. Bryant has an inside track to play with his buddy. HARPER... you can put some options in on the Story deal. Maybe year 2 and 3 as player options and years 4 and 5 team options. Marte rings low SO numbers and steals bases. The makes for a great lead off guy who gets on base and some what replaces the lose of Correa. You add in Story and he bats atleaset .260 and 20 HRS then you have a win win situation. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 15, 2021 14:25:15 GMT -6
Let him go sign Story and wait for Pena. Your saving some cash and hoping a change for Story. Go get some SP and sign Marte. Then you can use one of Meyers, Siri or McCormick as trade bait for a SP. Why sign Story to a 5+ year deal if Pena is the near future. Sign Bryant, he can play 3B/CF/RF. If Pena doesn't work, then Bregman is the SS and Bryant is the 3B. If Pena does work, then Bryant and Tucker are your CF/RF. We basically agree but the problem with Bryant and Tucker out there is you’ll have three corner OF. I guess Tucker would be the CF then. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 15, 2021 14:26:25 GMT -6
Yeah, I saw that. That makes six who've declined it, none who've accepted it, and eight still undecided. Early Qualifying Offer DecisionsNovember 17 will be here soon... I hope Click hits on these draft picks, but I see him signing a FA with a pick attached to cancel out what they get for Correa. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2021 14:45:42 GMT -6
Why sign Story to a 5+ year deal if Pena is the near future. Sign Bryant, he can play 3B/CF/RF. If Pena doesn't work, then Bregman is the SS and Bryant is the 3B. If Pena does work, then Bryant and Tucker are your CF/RF. We basically agree but the problem with Bryant and Tucker out there is you’ll have three corner OF. I guess Tucker would be the CF then. Bryant has played CF, and so has Tucker....so both can manage. If and when Meyers comes back, he could take it back....Leon could audition for later this season some time in CF... By season's end, between Meyers and Leon, we should be able to see who can be the CF for next season.... And then Bryant would take over for Brantley's departure, and Tucker goes back to RF. I'm mainly looking to promote the younger players and get versatile, key vets that don't block the top rookies. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 15, 2021 15:45:42 GMT -6
Let him go sign Story and wait for Pena. Your saving some cash and hoping a change for Story. Go get some SP and sign Marte. Then you can use one of Meyers, Siri or McCormick as trade bait for a SP. I doubt Siri has any real trade value. If we were actually going to give up a pick for a big money SS, I'd much rather have Semien, who is better and likely won't command as many years due to his age. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 15, 2021 15:46:48 GMT -6
Yeah, I saw that. That makes six who've declined it, none who've accepted it, and eight still undecided. Early Qualifying Offer DecisionsNovember 17 will be here soon... I hope Click hits on these draft picks, but I see him signing a FA with a pick attached to cancel out what they get for Correa. I kind of think it's more like that, after losing his top two picks in each of the last two drafts, he might want to avoid losing a pick no matter what. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 15, 2021 17:04:51 GMT -6
The Astros aren't looking for people who SO alot. They want them to get on base or walk. That's the MO that is being spoken.
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Post by m240 on Nov 15, 2021 17:50:26 GMT -6
The Astros aren't looking for people who SO alot. They want them to get on base or walk. That's the MO that is being spoken. The problem is you have to have balance. If you run into a deep staff that throws strikes and you lack power you do not score many runs and you leave a lot of guys on base. Sounds like a recent bad memory |
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