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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2021 14:34:44 GMT -6
This was a direct path to the plate if we only consider the horizontal plane. I think we all prefer this. Reminds me of Chris Coghlan. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 10, 2021 19:08:22 GMT -6
I think we all prefer this. Reminds me of Chris Coghlan. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 15, 2021 21:20:45 GMT -6
I have thought about the lock-out every day since it started. I stand firm with the owners. The players do not take any risk when they get their contract. The owners risk everything. If the players want a salary floor, counter with a salary cap. I am afraid that if the season is cut short, I will have to bail...
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 16, 2021 4:39:59 GMT -6
I have thought about the lock-out every day since it started. I stand firm with the owners. The players do not take any risk when they get their contract. The owners risk everything. If the players want a salary floor, counter with a salary cap. I am afraid that if the season is cut short, I will have to bail... I agree on both salary floor and cap... Get rid of the luxury cap.... Each team has to adhere to a budget.... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 16, 2021 8:56:24 GMT -6
I have thought about the lock-out every day since it started. I stand firm with the owners. The players do not take any risk when they get their contract. The owners risk everything. If the players want a salary floor, counter with a salary cap. I am afraid that if the season is cut short, I will have to bail... I agree on both salary floor and cap... Get rid of the luxury cap.... Each team has to adhere to a budget.... If you don’t have a salary cap, don’t be upset about how much more salary the players will demand. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 16, 2021 12:24:11 GMT -6
I have thought about the lock-out every day since it started. I stand firm with the owners. The players do not take any risk when they get their contract. The owners risk everything. If the players want a salary floor, counter with a salary cap. I am afraid that if the season is cut short, I will have to bail... I agree on both salary floor and cap... Get rid of the luxury cap.... Each team has to adhere to a budget.... Hard cap instead of tax? Where would you set the ceiling and the floor? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 16, 2021 20:24:26 GMT -6
I agree on both salary floor and cap... Get rid of the luxury cap.... Each team has to adhere to a budget.... Hard cap instead of tax? Where would you set the ceiling and the floor? I would put the floor at 75 million and the cap at 175 million. That should get their attention. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 16, 2021 22:05:31 GMT -6
Hard cap instead of tax? Where would you set the ceiling and the floor? I would put the floor at 75 million and the cap at 175 million. That should get their attention. So basically make unreasonable demands, just like the mlbpa has been doing? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 17, 2021 5:21:23 GMT -6
I agree on both salary floor and cap... Get rid of the luxury cap.... Each team has to adhere to a budget.... Hard cap instead of tax? Where would you set the ceiling and the floor? This year 80M floor, 220M Ceiling. Next year 100M Floor, 230M ceiling...2024 120M Floor, 240M ceiling....And be that way for a long time. Hard cap. Still revenue sharing. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 18, 2021 11:38:27 GMT -6
Hard cap instead of tax? Where would you set the ceiling and the floor? This year 80M floor, 220M Ceiling. Next year 100M Floor, 230M ceiling...2024 120M Floor, 240M ceiling....And be that way for a long time. Hard cap. Still revenue sharing. The owners will hate the floor. The mlbpa will hate the cap. The numbers look like a somewhat reasonable compromise, although the floor seems a bit high. We haven't seen anything about the pitiful wages for milb, which in my opinion needs to be addressed. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 18, 2021 11:45:41 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 18, 2021 13:11:51 GMT -6
This year 80M floor, 220M Ceiling. Next year 100M Floor, 230M ceiling...2024 120M Floor, 240M ceiling....And be that way for a long time. Hard cap. Still revenue sharing. The owners will hate the floor. The mlbpa will hate the cap. The numbers look like a somewhat reasonable compromise, although the floor seems a bit high. We haven't seen anything about the pitiful wages for milb, which in my opinion needs to be addressed. How much do the small market teams typically get in revenue sharing? |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 18, 2021 19:10:45 GMT -6
How much do the small market teams typically get in revenue sharing? 30 teams pony up 48% of their local revenues and all 30 teams each get 3.3% of the pot. The most recent number I have is for 2018 when each team got $118 million. In addition each team gets an equal share of national revenues. In 2018, that was estimated to be $91 million per team. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 18, 2021 19:44:01 GMT -6
How much do the small market teams typically get in revenue sharing? 30 teams pony up 48% of their local revenues and all 30 teams each get 3.3% of the pot. The most recent number I have is for 2018 when each team got $118 million. In addition each team gets an equal share of national revenues. In 2018, that was estimated to be $91 million per team. So $80M cap floor for 2022, and then $100M in 2023 should not be out of the question. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 18, 2021 21:13:37 GMT -6
All 30 teams pony up 48% of their local revenues and all 30 teams each get 3.3% of the pot. The most recent number I have is for 2018 when each team got $118 million. In addition each team gets an equal share of national revenues. In 2018, that was estimated to be $91 million per team. So $80M cap floor for 2022, and then $100M in 2023 should not be out of the question. I don't think you can leap to that conclusion unless you know the team operating costs (other than player salaries). |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 10, 2022 17:40:43 GMT -6
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 11, 2022 18:51:18 GMT -6
I hope it don't drag on too long. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 18, 2022 6:55:52 GMT -6
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 23, 2022 16:59:19 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 23, 2022 17:58:32 GMT -6
The longer they f*** around, the less I care about them. 1994 is the last strike I will return from as a fan.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 23, 2022 18:20:17 GMT -6
The longer they F*** around, the less I care about them. 1994 is the last strike I will return from as a fan. Amen, enough screwing around. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 23, 2022 22:48:24 GMT -6
The longer they F*** around, the less I care about them. 1994 is the last strike I will return from as a fan. If we have a full regular season, no worries. But if this thing drags on into the summer, I'm gone. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jan 24, 2022 10:35:55 GMT -6
All three of ya'll are going to give up baseball forever if the strike affects the season? Are you leaving this forum too if that happens?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 24, 2022 11:05:51 GMT -6
All three of ya'll are going to give up baseball forever if the strike affects the season? Are you leaving this forum too if that happens? Correct. They have been trying to run me off since the mid-1990s. They almost lost me over the flagellation at home plate/canceled game with the BLM horse shit, and when they cheated like a pack of losers. I barely took them back after the last strike these millionaires/billionaires foisted upon us. I won't come back from another one. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 24, 2022 12:03:13 GMT -6
All three of ya'll are going to give up baseball forever if the strike affects the season? Are you leaving this forum too if that happens?Leave the forum as in: delete my account? Nah. Leave as in not bother to visit and post? Pretty much that. I might post some off-topic stuff on occasion if something comes up in non-baseball news that seems like it would be of interest. And I'll read and respond to any PMs I get. But I won't be watching or following baseball if they kill half the season bickering. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 24, 2022 13:13:00 GMT -6
All three of ya'll are going to give up baseball forever if the strike affects the season? Are you leaving this forum too if that happens? Correct. They have been trying to run me off since the mid-1990s. They almost lost me over the flagellation at home plate/canceled game with the BLM horse shit, and when they cheated like a pack of losers. I barely took them back after the last strike these millionaires/billionaires foisted upon us. I won't come back from another one. Why is the response to BLM always self-flagellation? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 24, 2022 14:31:55 GMT -6
Correct. They have been trying to run me off since the mid-1990s. They almost lost me over the flagellation at home plate/canceled game with the BLM horse shit, and when they cheated like a pack of losers. I barely took them back after the last strike these millionaires/billionaires foisted upon us. I won't come back from another one. Why is the response to BLM always self-flagellation? You know. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jan 24, 2022 16:30:33 GMT -6
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 25, 2022 8:50:53 GMT -6
Why is the response to BLM always self-flagellation? You know.  |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 25, 2022 9:06:38 GMT -6
A LOT of hope. The union made some big concessions. I don't think the owners will do the $775k minimum salary but probably close to that over a three year period. 10% bumps each year would be something like $625k, $690k, $760k. I could see MLB offering a bit less then conceding to 10% per year. |
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