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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 15, 2021 7:16:44 GMT -6
On December 1, the current MLB Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) expires. If a new agreement is not in place by that date, on December 2 there will almost certainly be a lockout.
If a lockout happens, all trade activity will cease, no new contracts can be signed, and players will be prevented from using any team facilities. There will be NO spring training until a new agreement is reached.
If a new CBA is signed shortly before opening day, expect a flurry of trade and contract activity in the little remaining time.
MLB is proposing a few items that will almost certainly be shot down by the MLBPA. Among them, a new rule on free agency. Rather than 6 years service time, MLB wants the player age to determine free agent status. Age 29-1/2, regardless of service time. Also, arbitration salaries will be determined by player WAR stats.
What do YOU think? Will there be a new agreement before the old one expires? Will and agreement be reached prior to opening day? Will the 2022 season be shortened? Will the 2022 season be cancelled altogether?
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 15, 2021 8:27:31 GMT -6
There might be a work stoppage of some length, but I think there is a season. The mess (and lost money) from the 2020 shortened season is still fresh on both owner's and player's minds. I imagine they get something done eventually. Wouldn't be surprised to see the month of December and some of January blown up by a stoppage though.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2021 8:47:07 GMT -6
On December 1, the current MLB Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) expires. If a new agreement is not in place by that date, on December 2 there will almost certainly be a lockout. If a lockout happens, all trade activity will cease, no new contracts can be signed, and players will be prevented from using any team facilities. There will be NO spring training until a new agreement is reached. If a new CBA is signed shortly before opening day, expect a flurry of trade and contract activity in the little remaining time. MLB is proposing a few items that will almost certainly be shot down by the MLBPA. Among them, a new rule on free agency. Rather than 6 years service time, MLB wants the player age to determine free agent status. Age 29-1/2, regardless of service time. Also, arbitration salaries will be determined by player WAR stats. What do YOU think? Will there be a new agreement before the old one expires? Will and agreement be reached prior to opening day? Will the 2022 season be shortened? Will the 2022 season be cancelled altogether? Well the Tigers Just announced a big signing. Eduardo Rodriguez 5 years / 77 million He can opt out after year 2, and also a NTC. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 15, 2021 11:51:16 GMT -6
There might be a work stoppage of some length, but I think there is a season. The mess (and lost money) from the 2020 shortened season is still fresh on both owner's and player's minds. I imagine they get something done eventually. Wouldn't be surprised to see the month of December and some of January blown up by a stoppage though.That would be very tolerable. ST could proceed in full, although there would be considerable chaos from mid-January until opening day regarding trades and signings. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 15, 2021 12:48:07 GMT -6
Well the Tigers Just announced a big signing. Eduardo Rodriguez 5 years / 77 million He can opt out after year 2, and also a NTC. That is fairly big. #14 on mlbtr's list of Top-50 free agents. They're on the hook for 5 years, roughly $16MM per year, regardless of whether or not he turns into a pumpkin. The opt-out is strictly on the player side. I reckon the Tigers have a few more items on their shopping list. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2021 13:05:28 GMT -6
Well the Tigers Just announced a big signing. Eduardo Rodriguez 5 years / 77 million He can opt out after year 2, and also a NTC. That is fairly big. #14 on mlbtr's list of Top-50 free agents. They're on the hook for 5 years, roughly $16MM per year, regardless of whether or not he turns into a pumpkin. The opt-out is strictly on the player side. I reckon the Tigers have a few more items on their shopping list. I hope you sign Correa to a 10 year/343M deal. 😁 |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 15, 2021 14:30:14 GMT -6
Well the Tigers Just announced a big signing. Eduardo Rodriguez 5 years / 77 million He can opt out after year 2, and also a NTC. That is fairly big. #14 on mlbtr's list of Top-50 free agents. They're on the hook for 5 years, roughly $16MM per year, regardless of whether or not he turns into a pumpkin. The opt-out is strictly on the player side. I reckon the Tigers have a few more items on their shopping list. I don’t get this move. He’s never struck me as a great pitcher. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 15, 2021 14:30:48 GMT -6
That is fairly big. #14 on mlbtr's list of Top-50 free agents. They're on the hook for 5 years, roughly $16MM per year, regardless of whether or not he turns into a pumpkin. The opt-out is strictly on the player side. I reckon the Tigers have a few more items on their shopping list. I hope you sign Correa to a 10 year/343M deal. 😁 You leave 2020 postseason hero Carlos Correa alone. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2021 15:00:15 GMT -6
I hope you sign Correa to a 10 year/343M deal. 😁 You leave 2020 postseason hero Carlos Correa alone. That would have a lot more validity, if the Astros won the World Series.... They went to World Series this year and he didn't do shit... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2021 15:04:31 GMT -6
I hope you sign Correa to a 10 year/343M deal. 😁 You leave 2020 postseason hero Carlos Correa alone. Couple years ago I was defending Carlos to Corch..... But now I'm turning a little sour on him, because I think he's already packed his Louis Vuitton luggage.... And that's fine, I'm ready for the next promising SS to be promoted.... Carlos, you were not as good as you thought/think you were/are, and you're definitely not worth the commitment (money and years) that you're demanding. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 15, 2021 15:56:25 GMT -6
That is fairly big. #14 on mlbtr's list of Top-50 free agents. They're on the hook for 5 years, roughly $16MM per year, regardless of whether or not he turns into a pumpkin. The opt-out is strictly on the player side. I reckon the Tigers have a few more items on their shopping list. I don’t get this move. He’s never struck me as a great pitcher. He's not a great pitcher. $16 million per doesn't buy you an ace on the free agent market. The expectation is he'll be a solid middle of the rotation starter. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 15, 2021 16:20:06 GMT -6
I hope you sign Correa to a 10 year/343M deal. 😁 You're saying that because you know my stance on long-term contracts. f*** you, too. I love you, too. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 15, 2021 19:23:36 GMT -6
I hope you sign Correa to a 10 year/343M deal. 😁 You're saying that because you know my stance on long-term contracts. F*** you, too. I love you, too. I see what you tried to hide there you sly dog. I think who gets the f***ing will be determined by which team signs Correa to a 10-year/$300+ million deal. Hopefully neither you nor Thomas will get f***ed. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2021 19:35:53 GMT -6
You're saying that because you know my stance on long-term contracts. F*** you, too. I love you, too. I see what you tried to hide there you sly dog. I think who gets the f***ing will be determined by which team signs Correa to a 10-year/$300+ million deal. Hopefully neither you nor Thomas will get f***ed. Please be some other team not named the Astros. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 15, 2021 20:16:45 GMT -6
You're saying that because you know my stance on long-term contracts. F*** you, too. I love you, too. I see what you tried to hide there you sly dog. I think who gets the f***ing will be determined by which team signs Correa to a 10-year/$300+ million deal. Hopefully neither you nor Thomas will get f***ed. I love you, brother. (Fo realz, no code this time. lol) I guess we can all hope Carlos decides he wants to keep the band together enough that he signs for five years with the Astros ... even though we know that's not gonna happen. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 15, 2021 20:28:51 GMT -6
I see what you tried to hide there you sly dog. I think who gets the f***ing will be determined by which team signs Correa to a 10-year/$300+ million deal. Hopefully neither you nor Thomas will get f***ed. I love you, brother. (Fo realz, no code this time. lol) I guess we can all hope Carlos decides he wants to keep the band together enough that he signs for five years with the Astros ... even though we know that's not gonna happen. No. It’s not gonna happen. It’s all about Carlos’ ego now. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 15, 2021 21:04:05 GMT -6
I turned on Correa the minute Corch started supporting him. I hope he leaves.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 16, 2021 6:07:29 GMT -6
I turned on Correa the minute Corch started supporting him. I hope he leaves. Now that you say that, I think the same for me... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 16, 2021 6:08:36 GMT -6
I turned on Correa the minute Corch started supporting him. I hope he leaves. Now that you say that, I think the same for me... I'm glad that Corch never supported Altuve.... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 16, 2021 7:27:37 GMT -6
I turned on Correa the minute Corch started supporting him. I hope he leaves. Come on now. Corch shouldn’t matter that much. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 16, 2021 8:09:05 GMT -6
I turned on Correa the minute Corch started supporting him. I hope he leaves. Now that you say that, I think the same for me... I still liked Carlos even after Corch got on the bandwagon. Just not at the ridiculous level that Corch went to. I stopped liking him when he became Mr Timex. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 16, 2021 9:20:42 GMT -6
I turned on Correa the minute Corch started supporting him. I hope he leaves. Come on now. Corch shouldn’t matter that much. Says Corch Jr. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 16, 2021 9:44:29 GMT -6
Come on now. Corch shouldn’t matter that much. Says Corch Jr. Whatever, Colonel Sanders. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 16, 2021 10:07:05 GMT -6
Whatever, Colonel Sanders. Huh? |
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Post by koolade2 on Nov 16, 2021 10:17:45 GMT -6
Now that you say that, I think the same for me... I still liked Carlos even after Corch got on the bandwagon. Just not at the ridiculous level that Corch went to. I stopped liking him when he became Mr Timex. If you look back at the the Playoffs threads his renamed him Watch Boy when he pointed to his watch and showboated it at the plate, that instantly turned me off. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 16, 2021 11:16:31 GMT -6
I still liked Carlos even after Corch got on the bandwagon. Just not at the ridiculous level that Corch went to. I stopped liking him when he became Mr Timex. If you look back at the the Playoffs threads his renamed him Watch Boy when he pointed to his watch and showboated it at the plate, that instantly turned me off. His hitting flat-out sucked after that home run against the Red Sox. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 16, 2021 15:02:49 GMT -6
I have no real issues with Correa (even though the watch thing was dumb), and he has every right to pursue as fat a contract as he can get. I appreciated how he was one of the players to speak up regarding the sign-stealing and for his support of Altuve. He also did have an MVP-caliber 2021 season and deserves whatever awards he gets.
All that being said, I can't fathom giving him (or any player at all, really) a deal worth more than 8 years. ESPECIALLY a guy who has only had three full healthy seasons in his 10-year professional career. It's just obvious that those contracts don't work out. Teams can make all of the justifications that they want, but paying these players for 2-3-4 horrible years at the end of their contracts and blocking young players is bad business. The Rays and Oakland have proven that you can be successful with smart decisions and not spending on ridiculous contracts. I'm not saying we need to drop to their level of spending, but the goal should be a balance of their process and spending on the right players. I think we've managed to mostly do that since Crane took over. We've managed to keep some guys to high-priced but shorter contracts/extensions, promote young talent, and then bring in FAs/Trades to balance out our team. It hurts to lose guys like Springer and Correa, but we need to stick to our process.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 16, 2021 21:51:53 GMT -6
I just want the team to have righties hit inside pitches and lefties hit outside pitches. The Braves’ pitching strategy was so basic yet so effective. The line bright spot of losing Correa would be in getting some new blood in the lineup.
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Post by dafish on Nov 18, 2021 7:15:07 GMT -6
Not as optimistic. From what I read, this has more of a "1994" feel to it than people want to admit.
If the principals want to play another high stakes game of chicken, it might be their last. The game as we know it, may not survive another debacle like that.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 18, 2021 7:31:58 GMT -6
Not as optimistic. From what I read, this has more of a "1994" feel to it than people want to admit. If the principals want to play another high stakes game of chicken, it might be their last. The game as we know it, may not survive another debacle like that. Well steroids won't be around this time to save the game, like it did after the last strike. |
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