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Post by Saint on Jul 26, 2022 17:37:34 GMT -6
I saw that. It really depends on what we have to give up. Also, would he sign an extension... I think I would prefer Bell over Contreras. We know Maldy is going to get the majority of playing time at C. Pick up someone like Barnhart to backup Maldy and go after Bell. I think the Cubs are going to want way more for Contreras than the Nats do for Bell. I agree. Although, I may be in the minority on this, I'd be okay with just sticking with Lee as backup. They have to part with Maldonado at some point, and I'd just assume Lee get his feet wet for the future (if we believe he has a future with us). |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 26, 2022 18:24:21 GMT -6
Here is my off the wall trade ideas. Trade Jake Meyers, Peter Solomon and Urquidy for Sp Castillo. Then trade Joe Perez, Chas McCormick and Colin Barber for Bell or Contreras. Promote Leon and let him sink or swim. Extend Castillo...
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 27, 2022 0:07:50 GMT -6
Here is my off the wall trade ideas. Trade Jake Meyers, Peter Solomon and Urquidy for Sp Castillo. Then trade Joe Perez, Chas McCormick and Colin Barber for Bell or Contreras. Promote Leon and let him sink or swim. Extend Castillo... That does nothing to fix the problem at 1B, creates a rotation jam when McCullers comes back, and gives up both Meyers and McCormick in the hopes that Leon doesn't bust (and with Brantley injured and months from free agency, too). The Astros really don't need Castillo, I think people should probably move on from that dream. 1B, C, and RP is where we need to be looking. I'm betting they do pick up a catcher (not Contreras) and Castro probably just retires instead of trying to fight back. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 27, 2022 9:14:51 GMT -6
Here is my off the wall trade ideas. Trade Jake Meyers, Peter Solomon and Urquidy for Sp Castillo. Then trade Joe Perez, Chas McCormick and Colin Barber for Bell or Contreras. Promote Leon and let him sink or swim. Extend Castillo... That does nothing to fix the problem at 1B, creates a rotation jam when McCullers comes back, and gives up both Meyers and McCormick in the hopes that Leon doesn't bust (and with Brantley injured and months from free agency, too). The Astros really don't need Castillo, I think people should probably move on from that dream. 1B, C, and RP is where we need to be looking. I'm betting they do pick up a catcher (not Contreras) and Castro probably just retires instead of trying to fight back. 1. Bell fixes 1B or Contreras fixes 1B or C. 2. Adding Castillo allows you to move another starter to the pen and/or replaces Urquidy. Plus you have Castillo for next year in case you lose JV. 3. Meyers stinks. Chas is a 4th OFer. Leon wouldn't be any worse than either of those guys. Yes, you still have a concern at 1B and OF beyond this year, but it sets up nicely for the postseason and gives you added pitching depth for at least next year. |
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Post by inaltuvewetrust on Jul 27, 2022 9:49:35 GMT -6
I think we get Bell and one relief pitcher.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 27, 2022 10:22:50 GMT -6
I think we get Bell and one relief pitcher. I think we get a 1B/OF, Reliever and ? (Backup catcher or another reliever) |
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Post by inaltuvewetrust on Jul 27, 2022 10:57:44 GMT -6
I think we get Bell and one relief pitcher. I think we get a 1B/OF, Reliever and ? (Backup catcher or another reliever) I agree and probably a catcher as opposed to two relievers. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 27, 2022 11:02:46 GMT -6
We all agree that we will get someone.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 27, 2022 11:03:52 GMT -6
We all agree that we need something to happen soon instead of waiting until the last second to be disappointed.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 27, 2022 11:15:56 GMT -6
We all agree that we need something to happen soon instead of waiting until the last second to be disappointed. Bad thing is that selling teams, if they have a sought after player, will wait up until the end, to drive up the asking price. With so many playoff spots up for grabs, there will many bidders. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 27, 2022 11:19:49 GMT -6
What we can hope is that the top players on the trading block go to NL teams. Example - Soto to the Padres, Castillo to the Cardinals or Mets.
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 27, 2022 12:19:28 GMT -6
That does nothing to fix the problem at 1B, creates a rotation jam when McCullers comes back, and gives up both Meyers and McCormick in the hopes that Leon doesn't bust (and with Brantley injured and months from free agency, too). The Astros really don't need Castillo, I think people should probably move on from that dream. 1B, C, and RP is where we need to be looking. I'm betting they do pick up a catcher (not Contreras) and Castro probably just retires instead of trying to fight back. 1. Bell fixes 1B or Contreras fixes 1B or C. 2. Adding Castillo allows you to move another starter to the pen and/or replaces Urquidy. Plus you have Castillo for next year in case you lose JV. 3. Meyers stinks. Chas is a 4th OFer. Leon wouldn't be any worse than either of those guys. Yes, you still have a concern at 1B and OF beyond this year, but it sets up nicely for the postseason and gives you added pitching depth for at least next year. 1. Sorry, saw Contreras in the OP's post but not bell. 2. This means Javier back to the pen because it won't be Garcia (JV, LMJ, Framber, Castillo, Garcia) and Urquidy has to be dealt. It would obviously help, but why use limited resources to address the one area of the team that doesn't need help? JV stuck around as soon as Crane matched the money he was offered elsewhere. I don't see a huge chance of him leaving unless they just don't want him back, and Crane is in love with him so that's not likely. 3. Meyers is a good prospect who has had a bad month. We're wanting to give up on him just like that? I guarantee you the Astros don't think that way. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 27, 2022 12:25:46 GMT -6
1. Bell fixes 1B or Contreras fixes 1B or C. 2. Adding Castillo allows you to move another starter to the pen and/or replaces Urquidy. Plus you have Castillo for next year in case you lose JV. 3. Meyers stinks. Chas is a 4th OFer. Leon wouldn't be any worse than either of those guys. Yes, you still have a concern at 1B and OF beyond this year, but it sets up nicely for the postseason and gives you added pitching depth for at least next year. 3. Meyers is a good prospect who has had a bad month. We're wanting to give up on him just like that? I guarantee you the Astros don't think that way. It’s not just the hitting, it’s the defense. If he’s hesitant to dive, makes bad reads, and throws poorly, how’s he more useful than Chas or Siri? |
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Post by Saint on Jul 27, 2022 12:43:40 GMT -6
1. Bell fixes 1B or Contreras fixes 1B or C. 2. Adding Castillo allows you to move another starter to the pen and/or replaces Urquidy. Plus you have Castillo for next year in case you lose JV. 3. Meyers stinks. Chas is a 4th OFer. Leon wouldn't be any worse than either of those guys. Yes, you still have a concern at 1B and OF beyond this year, but it sets up nicely for the postseason and gives you added pitching depth for at least next year. 1. Sorry, saw Contreras in the OP's post but not bell. 2. This means Javier back to the pen because it won't be Garcia (JV, LMJ, Framber, Castillo, Garcia) and Urquidy has to be dealt. It would obviously help, but why use limited resources to address the one area of the team that doesn't need help? JV stuck around as soon as Crane matched the money he was offered elsewhere. I don't see a huge chance of him leaving unless they just don't want him back, and Crane is in love with him so that's not likely. 3. Meyers is a good prospect who has had a bad month. We're wanting to give up on him just like that? I guarantee you the Astros don't think that way. There are worse things than having a lot of good pitching depth for the postseason. And if you got Castillo and JV stuck around, your pitching sets up great for next year too. Again, nothing wrong with that at all. As for Meyers, Meyers is like Siri. He has a ton of athleticism, but that K/BB ratio is god awful and his defense isn't as good. (His arm is garbage unless he's hurt, btw.) He certainly still has potential and that's where his trade value lies. We just drafted a really good looking OFer and Leon looks to have more potential than all of our young CFers. I just don't see it as a loss. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 27, 2022 12:56:34 GMT -6
Lol y’all be talking up Lance but also dreaming up the “in case he can’t pitch” scenarios.
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Post by Saint on Jul 27, 2022 13:10:31 GMT -6
Lol y’all be talking up Lance but also dreaming up the “in case he can’t pitch” scenarios. Lance is mostly very good when he's healthy. But, like with Correa, you can't ever be certain he'll be available. Fortunately he signed a reasonable contract. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 27, 2022 13:23:57 GMT -6
Lol y’all be talking up Lance but also dreaming up the “in case he can’t pitch” scenarios. Lance is mostly very good when he's healthy. But, like with Correa, you can't ever be certain he'll be available. Fortunately he signed a reasonable contract. Can’t trust the guy. “Not a significant injury” turned into 10 months paid vacation. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 27, 2022 13:27:35 GMT -6
Lance is mostly very good when he's healthy. But, like with Correa, you can't ever be certain he'll be available. Fortunately he signed a reasonable contract. Can’t trust the guy. “Not a significant injury” turned into 10 months paid vacation. I'm jealous |
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Post by Saint on Jul 27, 2022 13:46:07 GMT -6
Lance is mostly very good when he's healthy. But, like with Correa, you can't ever be certain he'll be available. Fortunately he signed a reasonable contract. Can’t trust the guy. “Not a significant injury” turned into 10 months paid vacation. I don't trust him to stay healthy, but when he is, he brings alot to the team. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 27, 2022 13:57:48 GMT -6
Can’t trust the guy. “Not a significant injury” turned into 10 months paid vacation. I don't trust him to stay healthy, but when he is, he brings alot to the team. I like Lance but if you’re not reliable that affects your value to the team. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 27, 2022 14:02:52 GMT -6
I don't trust him to stay healthy, but when he is, he brings alot to the team. I like Lance but if you’re not reliable that affects your value to the team. Okay. So what are you saying they should do? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 27, 2022 14:21:35 GMT -6
I like Lance but if you’re not reliable that affects your value to the team. Okay. So what are you saying they should do? I’m not sure because his injury history is not a secret to other GM’s. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 27, 2022 14:26:35 GMT -6
I like Lance but if you’re not reliable that affects your value to the team. Okay. So what are you saying they should do? Trade -You promote and let Nathan negotiate. Really expand on him being good when he is pitching, and lessen the when healthy part. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 27, 2022 14:28:18 GMT -6
Okay. So what are you saying they should do? Trade -You promote and let Nathan negotiate. Really expand on him being good when he is pitching, and lessen the when healthy part. You had me at hello. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 27, 2022 14:28:52 GMT -6
Also Todd, do the same with Odorizzi. Go with he has pitched some decent and good games. If they rule out the bad pitched games, he is a steal of a deal.
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Post by Saint on Jul 27, 2022 16:24:20 GMT -6
Also Todd, do the same with Odorizzi. Go with he has pitched some decent and good games. If they rule out the bad pitched games, he is a steal of a deal. Even with the bad pitches games they'll see that he's basically an average starting pitcher. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 27, 2022 16:25:20 GMT -6
Has anyone seen that Trout has a back issue?
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 27, 2022 18:12:18 GMT -6
1. Sorry, saw Contreras in the OP's post but not bell. 2. This means Javier back to the pen because it won't be Garcia (JV, LMJ, Framber, Castillo, Garcia) and Urquidy has to be dealt. It would obviously help, but why use limited resources to address the one area of the team that doesn't need help? JV stuck around as soon as Crane matched the money he was offered elsewhere. I don't see a huge chance of him leaving unless they just don't want him back, and Crane is in love with him so that's not likely. 3. Meyers is a good prospect who has had a bad month. We're wanting to give up on him just like that? I guarantee you the Astros don't think that way. There are worse things than having a lot of good pitching depth for the postseason. And if you got Castillo and JV stuck around, your pitching sets up great for next year too. Again, nothing wrong with that at all. As for Meyers, Meyers is like Siri. He has a ton of athleticism, but that K/BB ratio is god awful and his defense isn't as good. (His arm is garbage unless he's hurt, btw.) He certainly still has potential and that's where his trade value lies. We just drafted a really good looking OFer and Leon looks to have more potential than all of our young CFers. I just don't see it as a loss. There's something wrong with it if you use up resources on that which could have gone to address a real problem like 1B though. Meyers is less than 275 ABs into his career, split up by a serious shoulder injury. It's far too early to be giving up on him. He's not like Siri; Meyers struck out much less in the minors and is a year younger. His hitting ability is real. Siri will almost never be even league-average with the bat in the Majors. You can't give up on a guy after a bad month. It's weird to me after complaining so much about Maldonado that you want to go with the all-glove, no-stick approach in CF, too, because of one bad month from a rookie coming back from injury. And especially that Leon is the solution; if you think Siri and Meyers have strikeout issues, just wait until you watch Leon for a while. Giving up on Meyers after a bad month and replacing him with Leon after a good month just seems really knee-jerk to me, and I suspect to the Astros as well (of course they have far more data and video etc. than we do so anything is possible). |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 27, 2022 18:14:16 GMT -6
Has anyone seen that Trout has a back issue? The Angels owe him $35,450,000 each year for the next eight years. This is why the Astros do not do mega contracts, no matter how good and loved the player is. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 27, 2022 18:17:49 GMT -6
3. Meyers is a good prospect who has had a bad month. We're wanting to give up on him just like that? I guarantee you the Astros don't think that way. It’s not just the hitting, it’s the defense. If he’s hesitant to dive, makes bad reads, and throws poorly, how’s he more useful than Chas or Siri? If he's doing those things right now (I haven't noticed a big issue with reads, personally, and most defensive metrics have him above-average in CF this season so far) he might not be. But this is the regular season and we've essentially already got the division on lock. There's no reason to not let him continue to work back from the injury and see if he can establish himself as the long-term solution in CF. I mean if you run Siri out there every day for the next two months, what do you gain? You still win the division either way. Maybe Siri helps you win one extra game with his defense, assuming Meyers doesn't start hitting again. What does that accomplish? |
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