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Post by Saint on Jul 11, 2022 14:46:49 GMT -6
There are not many good "trade" players on the table this year it seems. If we do make a trade we may have to pay well over premium. Might be better off staying with what we have.? Somebody will overpay for guys like Contreras, but I think there will be plenty of solid veteran rentals that will be cheaper to get. If all of our guys were healthy, I'd be less concerned. But I don't think we can count on everybody to stay healthy; we need to add depth.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 11, 2022 14:49:12 GMT -6
There are not many good "trade" players on the table this year it seems. If we do make a trade we may have to pay well over premium. Might be better off staying with what we have.? Somebody will overpay for guys like Contreras, but I think there will be plenty of solid veteran rentals that will be cheaper to get. If all of our guys were healthy, I'd be less concerned. But I don't think we can count on everybody to stay healthy; we need to add depth. Would love if we could pull off another Abraham Toro for Kendall Graveman trade. Of course Josh Fields for Yordan Alvarez would be better. What players are you willing to trade, whether they be in the majors or the minors right now.
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 11, 2022 15:20:12 GMT -6
There are not many good "trade" players on the table this year it seems. If we do make a trade we may have to pay well over premium. Might be better off staying with what we have.? I don't think we're better off standing pat. But when we traded for a centerfielder in 2015 cause we thought Springer wouldn't return from a broken wrist, most would agree we gave up too much
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Post by Saint on Jul 11, 2022 15:25:11 GMT -6
Somebody will overpay for guys like Contreras, but I think there will be plenty of solid veteran rentals that will be cheaper to get. If all of our guys were healthy, I'd be less concerned. But I don't think we can count on everybody to stay healthy; we need to add depth. Would love if we could pull off another Abraham Toro for Kendall Graveman trade. Of course Josh Fields for Yordan Alvarez would be better. What players are you willing to trade, whether they be in the majors or the minors right now. I'm open to dealing almost any prospect, really. I don't believe we have anybody untouchables other than maybe Hunter. I don't know that we have enough depth at the MLB level to trade many positions players outside of maybe Siri or JJ. I'd be okay with trading Urquidy or Luis Garcia, but not both.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 11, 2022 15:55:10 GMT -6
Somebody will overpay for guys like Contreras, but I think there will be plenty of solid veteran rentals that will be cheaper to get. If all of our guys were healthy, I'd be less concerned. But I don't think we can count on everybody to stay healthy; we need to add depth. Would love if we could pull off another Abraham Toro for Kendall Graveman trade. Of course Josh Fields for Yordan Alvarez would be better. What players are you willing to trade, whether they be in the majors or the minors right now. I would love to improve the team, my point is that I don't know if anyone is available that would improve the team.
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 11, 2022 17:21:52 GMT -6
There could be some hope for Gurriel. Over his last two weeks here is his line: .293/.356/.512 .868 OPS It's hard to know what to expect from Yuli with his overall production. Every year he seems very different. Look at the OPS fluctuation: 2016: .677 2017: .817 2018: .751 2019: .884 2020: .658 2021: .846 2022: .677 The only thing you can really seem to count on, offensively, is that he is going to hit a good amount of doubles. I think he's going to retire at season's end. I have nothing to support that though
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 11, 2022 17:34:45 GMT -6
Go get Josh Bell. Andrew Chaffin.
And one of Lourdes gurriel and or Cavan Biggio
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 11, 2022 18:50:22 GMT -6
And for the record, I don't think they need to aim for any specific position (other than catcher which won't happen). I think they need to aim for a big bat, period. Preferably somebody that could play corner OF or 1B, but really we just need more depth with the bat of any kind. If Diaz or Matijevic is DHing in the postseason, we have a problem. Brandon Drury would be a good rental. Having his second consecutive good year at the plate and can play everywhere except CF and C. But I just really, really doubt they pick up a significant position player, barring a severe injury between now and the deadline.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 11, 2022 19:23:00 GMT -6
And for the record, I don't think they need to aim for any specific position (other than catcher which won't happen). I think they need to aim for a big bat, period. Preferably somebody that could play corner OF or 1B, but really we just need more depth with the bat of any kind. If Diaz or Matijevic is DHing in the postseason, we have a problem. Brandon Drury would be a good rental. Having his second consecutive good year at the plate and can play everywhere except CF and C. But I just really, really doubt they pick up a significant position player, barring a severe injury between now and the deadline. But, but, but Castro is injured
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Post by Saint on Jul 11, 2022 19:29:41 GMT -6
And for the record, I don't think they need to aim for any specific position (other than catcher which won't happen). I think they need to aim for a big bat, period. Preferably somebody that could play corner OF or 1B, but really we just need more depth with the bat of any kind. If Diaz or Matijevic is DHing in the postseason, we have a problem. Brandon Drury would be a good rental. Having his second consecutive good year at the plate and can play everywhere except CF and C. But I just really, really doubt they pick up a significant position player, barring a severe injury between now and the deadline. We have two significant injuries already, I'd say. One still has no end in sight.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 11, 2022 19:38:49 GMT -6
Click is to Relievers as My big fat Greek's Wedding dar is to Windex as Chris Rock was to Robitussin..... Astros' team needs some help, Click put some relief on it.
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Post by m240 on Jul 11, 2022 20:33:26 GMT -6
Yuli's last 15 games: .294/.345/.510 And Meyers is hitting. IMO, once Pena and Brantley are back there won't be a way to upgrade anyone outside of catcher in any meaningful way without giving up Hunter Brown. And it seems very unlikely they'll be trading for a catcher. I really, really doubt we pick up a starting-quality bat. As I see it the fix is very simple, we do not need a super star, we do not need a starting quality bat per se, we need a couple of very solid bench guys that we do not have right now. We can look past Maldonado/Lee/Castro if the other spots are filled with major league quality players. Diaz is our best bat off the bench and he is marginal, then who do you have. The answer is no one. People get hurt all the time and having a Bell, or whoever on the bench will cost us someone. I doubt it is Brown but if it cost us Brown and we got someone who increased our chances of winning another title significantly then I vote to do it. I just do not think it will, Urquidy, Odorizzi, Maton, Neris and at least 5 or 6 prospects can be drawn from to get the job done. Thinking we do not have to do anything is misguided at best.
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Post by Saint on Jul 12, 2022 7:37:12 GMT -6
And for the record, I don't think they need to aim for any specific position (other than catcher which won't happen). I think they need to aim for a big bat, period. Preferably somebody that could play corner OF or 1B, but really we just need more depth with the bat of any kind. If Diaz or Matijevic is DHing in the postseason, we have a problem. Brandon Drury would be a good rental. Having his second consecutive good year at the plate and can play everywhere except CF and C. But I just really, really doubt they pick up a significant position player, barring a severe injury between now and the deadline. Yeah he would be a solid cost efficient grab. I also like Peralta or Berti could be semi-affordable adds that would give us some depth.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 12, 2022 11:42:45 GMT -6
Brandon Drury would be a good rental. Having his second consecutive good year at the plate and can play everywhere except CF and C. But I just really, really doubt they pick up a significant position player, barring a severe injury between now and the deadline. Yeah he would be a solid cost efficient grab. I also like Peralta or Berti could be semi-affordable adds that would give us some depth. Whatever keeps them from needing Matijevic. I don’t think he’s ready.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 12, 2022 13:03:29 GMT -6
Being that they’re lefties, I think Bell or Benintendi should be targeted if only to thwart the Yankees’ attempts to land either of them. The Yankees aren’t as complete offensively as the Astros, and I think that either of them coming here would deal a blow to them.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jul 13, 2022 6:51:54 GMT -6
You need a speedster who can steal ya some bases.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 13, 2022 7:02:15 GMT -6
You need a speedster who can steal ya some bases. Yes!!
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 15, 2022 16:23:18 GMT -6
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 15, 2022 16:48:21 GMT -6
All this surplus pitching we have and the interest is using it to upgrade an already elite staff. This organization is becoming Tampa Bay West
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 15, 2022 21:32:44 GMT -6
I'd be shocked. He'll cost a lot and the rotation will look really good once McCullers gets back. If the Reds were willing to make someone like Urquidy the centerpiece, essentially giving up the better pitcher Castillo for Urquidy who has more years of control, then maybe. But we really can't give up the kind of prospects CIN would be looking for in a prospect-only deal.
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 16, 2022 1:58:54 GMT -6
any deal for Castillo would mean goodbye to Hunter Brown
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 16, 2022 6:37:04 GMT -6
All this surplus pitching we have and the interest is using it to upgrade an already elite staff. This organization is becoming Tampa Bay West If they get Luis Castillo, the dream scenario is in trading a pitcher on the roster, but I don’t see that happening.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 16, 2022 6:37:46 GMT -6
any deal for Castillo would mean goodbye to Hunter Brown I just don’t know what this would accomplish.
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Post by Saint on Jul 16, 2022 11:16:42 GMT -6
If they can't see how badly we need more offensive depth, we're in trouble.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 16, 2022 12:51:23 GMT -6
If they can't see how badly we need more offensive depth, we're in trouble. Offensive depth and one solid reliever....
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 16, 2022 12:52:54 GMT -6
If they can't see how badly we need more offensive depth, we're in trouble. Hopefully They are just faking it, to drive up the asking price. So other contending teams trade away prospects that would have been in competition against the Astros prospects, for the trades the Astros actually need to make.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 16, 2022 13:08:28 GMT -6
Nats are offering Soto for trades now that he declined something like $440M extension.
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Post by Saint on Jul 16, 2022 13:13:29 GMT -6
If they can't see how badly we need more offensive depth, we're in trouble. Hopefully They are just faking it, to drive up the asking price. So other contending teams trade away prospects that would have been in competition against the Astros prospects, for the trades the Astros actually need to make. I don't mind adding Castillo. JV and McCullers for the postseason are question marks health-wise. But they still need to add a bat as well.
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Post by Saint on Jul 16, 2022 13:13:47 GMT -6
Nats are offering Soto for trades now that he declined something like $440M extension. For 15 years. Crazy.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 16, 2022 14:20:35 GMT -6
As the teams are now, the Astros can hang with the Yankees. If the Yankees add Benintendi or Bell, I’d say no. Adding Castillo is a future move that adds very little for this season.
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