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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 5, 2022 7:46:20 GMT -6
I'm not down on him. I just think they've seen him a lot and he isn't as effective as Abreu or Pressly. Might be time for a new arm to get a chance. There's an odd possibility we could win the WS while the arm with the lowest ERA on the staff during the regular season pitched 1.0 IP. Despite the fact he broke the club record for lowest ERA The Nats won a world championship because our reliever with the killer ERA gave away our lead to a journeyman infielder. While I don’t understand Stanek’s lack of usage, I won’t question it. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 5, 2022 8:43:55 GMT -6
Why is everyone so down on Montero? I'm not down on him. I just think they've seen him a lot and he isn't as effective as Abreu or Pressly. Might be time for a new arm to get a chance. Same. Montero is not bad at all, but he's pitched a good run below his xFIP, and things in his batted ball profile don't bode well. It's honestly similar to Graveman last year; he had a career year, and he's regressed this year after getting a big contract. Graveman is still good, and Montero likely will be too, but probably not as good as he was this year. If he wanted to come back for something like $7 million per year for a couple more seasons that would be fine by me, but I probably wouldn't want to give him the $30+ million or so he's likely to get on the open market. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 5, 2022 8:46:05 GMT -6
I'm not down on him. I just think they've seen him a lot and he isn't as effective as Abreu or Pressly. Might be time for a new arm to get a chance. Same. Montero is not bad at all, but he's pitched a good run below his xFIP, and things in his batted ball profile don't bode well. It's honestly similar to Graveman last year; he had a career year, and he's regressed this year after getting a big contract. Graveman is still good, and Montero likely will be too, but probably not as good as he was this year. If he wanted to come back for something like $7 million per year for a couple more seasons that would be fine by me, but I probably wouldn't want to give him the $30+ million or so he's likely to get on the open market. Which deal do you think would be the better deal for the Astros? Chafin 3/24M Montero 3/24M Lugo 3/27M |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 5, 2022 8:46:10 GMT -6
Why is everyone so down on Montero? He’s got great stuff but tends to be either wild or not challenge hitters. As hard as it is to hit his speed pitches, why swing if you don’t have to? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 5, 2022 8:47:57 GMT -6
Same. Montero is not bad at all, but he's pitched a good run below his xFIP, and things in his batted ball profile don't bode well. It's honestly similar to Graveman last year; he had a career year, and he's regressed this year after getting a big contract. Graveman is still good, and Montero likely will be too, but probably not as good as he was this year. If he wanted to come back for something like $7 million per year for a couple more seasons that would be fine by me, but I probably wouldn't want to give him the $30+ million or so he's likely to get on the open market. Which deal do you think would be the better deal for the Astros? Chafin 3/24M Montero 3/24M Lugo 3/27M Probably Chafin but only after more important contracts are inked. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 5, 2022 8:51:44 GMT -6
Meyers might be great but he's going to need earn playing time again. Chas, if no CF moves are made, deserves the starting role. I'm not convinced we NEED a new CF. But we need a bat somewhere. 1B, LF, or CF. We know we won't get it at catcher next year. I'm totally fine with that, both giving Chas the job and making Meyers prove it. I'm just pushing back on the crowd that are convinced he's done and garbage forever. Let him be the backup OF next year; Chas is solid but only that, if Meyers can't outperform him and force their hand then he isn't a long-term solution anyway. Agreed on that too. That's really my point; our internal options at CF (and I didn't even mention Pedro Leon, who could be one adjustment away from a breakout, and maybe even Justin Dirden who could play RF with Tucker in CF if need be) are good enough IMO that we should focus on 1B and LF, the bullpen, and extensions (and C but, as you said, yeah...). |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 5, 2022 8:57:17 GMT -6
Same. Montero is not bad at all, but he's pitched a good run below his xFIP, and things in his batted ball profile don't bode well. It's honestly similar to Graveman last year; he had a career year, and he's regressed this year after getting a big contract. Graveman is still good, and Montero likely will be too, but probably not as good as he was this year. If he wanted to come back for something like $7 million per year for a couple more seasons that would be fine by me, but I probably wouldn't want to give him the $30+ million or so he's likely to get on the open market. Which deal do you think would be the better deal for the Astros? Chafin 3/24M Montero 3/24M Lugo 3/27M Lugo is the "worst" of the three, not sure why he would get more money. I might go with Chafin of that trio, though it's very close and that wouldn't be a bad deal for Montero, I'm just not sure I trust Dusty (actually I'm sure I don't trust him) to recognize that this was a career year and he shouldn't use him as THE stopper to get to Pressly (that should be Abreu). |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 5, 2022 9:01:34 GMT -6
Which deal do you think would be the better deal for the Astros? Chafin 3/24M Montero 3/24M Lugo 3/27M Lugo is the "worst" of the three, not sure why he would get more money. I might go with Chafin of that trio, though it's very close and that wouldn't be a bad deal for Montero, I'm just not sure I trust Dusty (actually I'm sure I don't trust him) to recognize that this was a career year and he shouldn't use him as THE stopper to get to Pressly (that should be Abreu). I like Seth Lugo because he can give you multiple innings.... He could be a longiting reliever. You can stretch him out to be a spot starter if need be. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 5, 2022 9:01:59 GMT -6
Lugo is the "worst" of the three, not sure why he would get more money. I might go with Chafin of that trio, though it's very close and that wouldn't be a bad deal for Montero, I'm just not sure I trust Dusty (actually I'm sure I don't trust him) to recognize that this was a career year and he shouldn't use him as THE stopper to get to Pressly (that should be Abreu). I like Seth Lugo because he can give you multiple innings.... He could be a longiting reliever. You can stretch him out to be a spot starter if need be. My ranking would be Lugo, Chafin, Mobtero |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 5, 2022 9:13:47 GMT -6
Lugo is the "worst" of the three, not sure why he would get more money. I might go with Chafin of that trio, though it's very close and that wouldn't be a bad deal for Montero, I'm just not sure I trust Dusty (actually I'm sure I don't trust him) to recognize that this was a career year and he shouldn't use him as THE stopper to get to Pressly (that should be Abreu). I like Seth Lugo because he can give you multiple innings.... He could be a longiting reliever. You can stretch him out to be a spot starter if need be. Personally I don't see that as a huge selling point given our SP depth. I want dudes in the bullpen who can rip people up for one inning at a time and shut games down completely if the starter gives you six. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 5, 2022 9:38:10 GMT -6
I like Seth Lugo because he can give you multiple innings.... He could be a longiting reliever. You can stretch him out to be a spot starter if need be. Personally I don't see that as a huge selling point given our SP depth. I want dudes in the bullpen who can rip people up for one inning at a time and shut games down completely if the starter gives you six. Pressly,Abreu, Stanek, Neris.... I like two long inning relievers that can be spot starters, because an injury will always happen, or you want to give your starters some rest during the season. Brown and Lugo. If I had my true wish, it would be to sign both Lugo and Chafin. Trade Maton for something. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 5, 2022 10:12:28 GMT -6
Dusty indicated in an interview that McTourette would start game 7, if the series goes to 7 games. Even more the reason to win game 6.
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Post by talshill on Nov 5, 2022 10:26:00 GMT -6
I think Gilbert's ETA is 2024, so some combination of Chas/whoever will work fine for next season. Also read on one site that Bell is projected for a contract of 4/60 which, if accurate, seems doable.
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Post by talshill on Nov 5, 2022 10:27:07 GMT -6
Dusty indicated in an interview that McTourette would start game 7, if the series goes to 7 games. Even more the reason to win game 6. Refer to the "fire dusty" thread. Tonight will make or break them. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 5, 2022 10:32:31 GMT -6
Dusty indicated in an interview that McTourette would start game 7, if the series goes to 7 games. Even more the reason to win game 6. Do or die then today |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 5, 2022 10:32:59 GMT -6
Dusty indicated in an interview that McTourette would start game 7, if the series goes to 7 games. Even more the reason to win game 6. If that doesn't motivate the team to win today, nothing will. |
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Post by dafish on Nov 5, 2022 10:53:12 GMT -6
Dusty indicated in an interview that McTourette would start game 7, if the series goes to 7 games. Even more the reason to win game 6. He's hell bent on not getting that championship isn't he? Shit, how about all hands on deck and make in a bullpen game. That system seems to work pretty damned decently for us. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 5, 2022 11:13:49 GMT -6
Dusty indicated in an interview that McTourette would start game 7, if the series goes to 7 games. Even more the reason to win game 6. He's hell bent on not getting that championship isn't he? Shit, how about all hands on deck and make in a bullpen game. That system seems to work pretty damned decently for us. If the Astros don't win today, maybe LMJ would just throw out the first pitch for Game 7, like Mattress Mack is doing today. |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 5, 2022 11:45:02 GMT -6
Dusty indicated in an interview that McTourette would start game 7, if the series goes to 7 games. Even more the reason to win game 6. He's hell bent on not getting that championship isn't he? Shit, how about all hands on deck and make in a bullpen game. That system seems to work pretty damned decently for us. Dusty has to be giving the media a headfake saying McCullers would pitch in a Game 7. He's Giles-bad at this point |
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Post by Saint on Nov 5, 2022 12:01:57 GMT -6
He's hell bent on not getting that championship isn't he? Shit, how about all hands on deck and make in a bullpen game. That system seems to work pretty damned decently for us. Dusty has to be giving the media a headfake saying McCullers would pitch in a Game 7. He's Giles-bad at this point I don't think it's a fake. I think Lance will start. But I'm sure they'll move to Javier or the bullpen as soon as he hits trouble. |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 5, 2022 12:05:24 GMT -6
Dusty has to be giving the media a headfake saying McCullers would pitch in a Game 7. He's Giles-bad at this point I don't think it's a fake. I think Lance will start. But I'm sure they'll move to Javier or the bullpen as soon as he hits trouble. McTippy could give up three homers before there's a baserunner. I'd rather open with Stanek than McCullers |
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Post by Saint on Nov 5, 2022 12:14:07 GMT -6
I don't think it's a fake. I think Lance will start. But I'm sure they'll move to Javier or the bullpen as soon as he hits trouble. McTippy could give up three homers before there's a baserunner. I'd rather open with Stanek than McCullers I'd be okay with that, but Dusty won't. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 5, 2022 12:27:34 GMT -6
I don't think it's a fake. I think Lance will start. But I'm sure they'll move to Javier or the bullpen as soon as he hits trouble. McTippy could give up three homers before there's a baserunner. I'd rather open with Stanek than McCullers McTippy….LOL!!! |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 5, 2022 12:40:43 GMT -6
McTippy could give up three homers before there's a baserunner. I'd rather open with Stanek than McCullers I'd be okay with that, but Dusty won't. In all seriousness, why not Urquidy? Pitching in the World Series doesn't seem to faze him, and he works quickly when there's no traffic |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 5, 2022 12:44:14 GMT -6
Why is everyone so down on Montero? I am not down on him. Just, early on Dusty threw him too much. Now with rest I think he will be fine. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 5, 2022 13:35:34 GMT -6
Letting y'all know that Saint is in Methodist hospital ER, getting his feelings seen to after reading all this negativity about our CY-winning ace, McMullet.
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 5, 2022 14:11:57 GMT -6
Letting y'all know that Saint is in Methodist hospital ER, getting his feelings seen to after reading all this negativity about our CY-winning ace, McMullet. We wish him well, but we all know McMullet is a has been. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 5, 2022 14:22:19 GMT -6
Letting y'all know that Saint is in Methodist hospital ER, getting his feelings seen to after reading all this negativity about our CY-winning ace, McMullet. Are you trying to say you that he was having his mangina looked at? |
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Post by Saint on Nov 5, 2022 14:37:42 GMT -6
No, I'm scared to use Lance too because I don't believe they've fixed whatever tipping he was doing.
Normally, I would be fine.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 5, 2022 14:50:40 GMT -6
Letting y'all know that Saint is in Methodist hospital ER, getting his feelings seen to after reading all this negativity about our CY-winning ace, McMullet. Is he going to be alright? |
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