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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 7, 2022 14:35:56 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Nov 7, 2022 14:46:26 GMT -6
MLB hates that we won. The day of our parade and the story is the 4th down the line in the headlines. Love it.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 7, 2022 14:58:45 GMT -6
MLB hates that we won. The day of our parade and the story is the 4th down the line in the headlines. Love it. LOL HATE US |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 7, 2022 15:28:13 GMT -6
Carlos Correa will be playing for the Orioles or Phillies next year. Apparently he is the Dodger's first choice for SS... Would Dodgers' fans boo their own SS, everytime he is introduced and AB? If he goes there, they both deserve each other. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 7, 2022 16:04:14 GMT -6
Apparently he is the Dodger's first choice for SS... Would Dodgers' fans boo their own SS, everytime he is introduced and AB? If he goes there, they both deserve each other. I'm sure they'd get over it. They didn't boo Mookie. |
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Post by talshill on Nov 7, 2022 16:10:14 GMT -6
Wild thought: Crane lets Click go, re-hires Luhnow. MLB’s hatred for us goes nuclear. We win 3 more titles in the next 4-5 years. Awesome. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 7, 2022 16:15:42 GMT -6
Wild thought: Crane lets Click go, re-hires Luhnow. MLB’s hatred for us goes nuclear. We win 3 more titles in the next 4-5 years. Awesome. Would be cool but would also never happen. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 7, 2022 16:27:56 GMT -6
Wild thought: Crane lets Click go, re-hires Luhnow. MLB’s hatred for us goes nuclear. We win 3 more titles in the next 4-5 years. Awesome. I can't tell if I would like that or not. On one hand, this run of success is hugely on the shoulders of Luhnow. But, we also had a ton of problems under Luhnow as well. We've stopped making the news for anything bad happening in our FO for one. (No mistreatment of female reporters, etc.) Wasn't there talks of lots of scheming going on around Luhnow and data analysts and such? Especially with other teams. Maybe I'm misremembering. Plus, as good as Luhnow was, he also dropped the ball on some deals as well that really hurt the farm system and didn't greatly improve us (Fiers/Gomez and Greinke). Click really did a good job, imo. Maybe he played it too safe with some stuff, but he also didn't back us into any bad deals. What was the worst deal we had under him? Mancini? It will be a very interesting offseason. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 7, 2022 16:32:42 GMT -6
Wild thought: Crane lets Click go, re-hires Luhnow. MLB’s hatred for us goes nuclear. We win 3 more titles in the next 4-5 years. Awesome. I can't tell if I would like that or not. On one hand, this run of success is hugely on the shoulders of Luhnow. But, we also had a ton of problems under Luhnow as well. We've stopped making the news for anything bad happening in our FO for one. (No mistreatment of female reporters, etc.) Wasn't there talks of lots of scheming going on around Luhnow and data analysts and such? Especially with other teams. Maybe I'm misremembering. Plus, as good as Luhnow was, he also dropped the ball on some deals as well that really hurt the farm system and didn't greatly improve us (Fiers/Gomez and Greinke). Click really did a good job, imo. Maybe he played it too safe with some stuff, but he also didn't back us into any bad deals. What was the worst deal we had under him? Mancini? It will be a very interesting offseason. Sir, neither Luhnow nor Greinke asked Hinch to blow a championship. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 7, 2022 16:36:29 GMT -6
I can't tell if I would like that or not. On one hand, this run of success is hugely on the shoulders of Luhnow. But, we also had a ton of problems under Luhnow as well. We've stopped making the news for anything bad happening in our FO for one. (No mistreatment of female reporters, etc.) Wasn't there talks of lots of scheming going on around Luhnow and data analysts and such? Especially with other teams. Maybe I'm misremembering. Plus, as good as Luhnow was, he also dropped the ball on some deals as well that really hurt the farm system and didn't greatly improve us (Fiers/Gomez and Greinke). Click really did a good job, imo. Maybe he played it too safe with some stuff, but he also didn't back us into any bad deals. What was the worst deal we had under him? Mancini? It will be a very interesting offseason. Sir, neither Luhnow nor Greinke asked Hinch to blow a championship. That doesn't change anything. Getting Greinke was a lukewarm deal at best after seeing the results we got from him. We basically got 2018 Keuchel-level results for 4 prospects and $70 million. (I liked Keuchel, but not for 4 prospects and $35 million a year.) P.S. If Hinch got 2022 Pressly that postseason instead of 2019 Pressly, Hinch wouldn't have blown it. |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 7, 2022 16:58:54 GMT -6
So Bregman broke his finger and Altuve apparently hurt his hamstring. If it had gone to Game 7 we may have been in a very bad way... It looks like Bregman won't need surgery |
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Post by churchill on Nov 7, 2022 19:00:39 GMT -6
As much as l hate to say it Congratulations to the Astros, you deserve the win.
A month or so ago l was asked by a poster here who l thought would be traded this winter Trout or Ohtani. At the time l said it depends on the new owner. It turns out it won't be Ohtani and I truly doubt it will be Trout either. S o l think neither will be traded, based on this tweet:
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 7, 2022 19:10:36 GMT -6
As much as l hate to say it Congratulations to the Astros, you deserve the win. A month or so ago l was asked by a poster here who l thought would be traded this winter Trout or Ohtani. At the time l said it depends on the new owner. It turns out it won't be Ohtani and I truly doubt it will be Trout either. S o l think neither will be traded, based on this tweet: But if some team would pay a king's ransom, would you (if you were the GM) trade away Ohtani? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 7, 2022 19:22:47 GMT -6
As much as l hate to say it Congratulations to the Astros, you deserve the win. A month or so ago l was asked by a poster here who l thought would be traded this winter Trout or Ohtani. At the time l said it depends on the new owner. It turns out it won't be Ohtani and I truly doubt it will be Trout either. S o l think neither will be traded, based on this tweet: Sadly, Trout will never get a ring. Makes my heart ache... |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 7, 2022 19:55:17 GMT -6
As much as l hate to say it Congratulations to the Astros, you deserve the win. A month or so ago l was asked by a poster here who l thought would be traded this winter Trout or Ohtani. At the time l said it depends on the new owner. It turns out it won't be Ohtani and I truly doubt it will be Trout either. S o l think neither will be traded, based on this tweet: Sadly, Trout will never get a ring. Makes my heart ache... It’s hard for me to have any sympathy for a guy who in March 2014 signed a 6-year, $144.5 million deal that covered the years 2015-2020. The guy could have been a FA after the 2020 season and signed with any team he wanted to. Nobody held a gun to his head and made him sign another extension with LAA that runs through 2030. If winning meant anything to him, he would not have signed another extension with LAA. It’s all about the money with him. Let him wallow in it, but don’t feel sorry for him. |
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Post by talshill on Nov 7, 2022 20:30:34 GMT -6
Wild thought: Crane lets Click go, re-hires Luhnow. MLB’s hatred for us goes nuclear. We win 3 more titles in the next 4-5 years. Awesome. I can't tell if I would like that or not. On one hand, this run of success is hugely on the shoulders of Luhnow. But, we also had a ton of problems under Luhnow as well. We've stopped making the news for anything bad happening in our FO for one. (No mistreatment of female reporters, etc.) Wasn't there talks of lots of scheming going on around Luhnow and data analysts and such? Especially with other teams. Maybe I'm misremembering. Plus, as good as Luhnow was, he also dropped the ball on some deals as well that really hurt the farm system and didn't greatly improve us (Fiers/Gomez and Greinke). Click really did a good job, imo. Maybe he played it too safe with some stuff, but he also didn't back us into any bad deals. What was the worst deal we had under him? Mancini? It will be a very interesting offseason. You wouldn't like 3 more titles in the next 5 years? |
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Post by talshill on Nov 7, 2022 20:44:49 GMT -6
As much as l hate to say it Congratulations to the Astros, you deserve the win. A month or so ago l was asked by a poster here who l thought would be traded this winter Trout or Ohtani. At the time l said it depends on the new owner. It turns out it won't be Ohtani and I truly doubt it will be Trout either. S o l think neither will be traded, based on this tweet: It depends on a couple of factors. If the new owner is content with mediocrity and just wants him as an attraction to sell tickets then keep him and watch him walk. Many Japanese players seem to like the West Coast so be ready for the Mariners or Dodgers to push hard when he reaches FA. Or he could throw gobs of $ at him and retain him at the expense of the rest of the team. If his goal is to win long-term he can either trade him for a boatload of prospects or become the Dodgers 2.0 and have a massive payroll. Probably the quickest way to be a persistent competitor is to trade him (assuming the FO is competent). |
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Post by Saint on Nov 7, 2022 21:02:48 GMT -6
I can't tell if I would like that or not. On one hand, this run of success is hugely on the shoulders of Luhnow. But, we also had a ton of problems under Luhnow as well. We've stopped making the news for anything bad happening in our FO for one. (No mistreatment of female reporters, etc.) Wasn't there talks of lots of scheming going on around Luhnow and data analysts and such? Especially with other teams. Maybe I'm misremembering. Plus, as good as Luhnow was, he also dropped the ball on some deals as well that really hurt the farm system and didn't greatly improve us (Fiers/Gomez and Greinke). Click really did a good job, imo. Maybe he played it too safe with some stuff, but he also didn't back us into any bad deals. What was the worst deal we had under him? Mancini? It will be a very interesting offseason. You wouldn't like 3 more titles in the next 5 years? Oh, well yes. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 7, 2022 21:06:07 GMT -6
Wild thought: Crane lets Click go, re-hires Luhnow. MLB’s hatred for us goes nuclear. We win 3 more titles in the next 4-5 years. Awesome. Plus, as good as Luhnow was, he also dropped the ball on some deals as well that really hurt the farm system and didn't greatly improve us (Fiers/Gomez and Greinke). I remember in the days leading up to the trade deadline in 2015 Luhnow was in discussions with San Diego about trading for Craig Kimbrel. The Padres wanted Brett Phillips as part of the return for Kimbrel and Luhnow would not include Phillips so the deal never came to fruition. Then just days later Luhnow included Phillips in the deal for Fiers/Gomez. I will always wonder how things would have turned out if Luhnow HAD acquired Kimbrel and the Astros had Kimbrel in the bullpen vs the Royals..... and how different things might have turned out if Luhnow HAD NOT acquired Fiers and Gumpez. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 7, 2022 21:59:45 GMT -6
Plus, as good as Luhnow was, he also dropped the ball on some deals as well that really hurt the farm system and didn't greatly improve us (Fiers/Gomez and Greinke). I remember in the days leading up to the trade deadline in 2015 Luhnow was in discussions with San Diego about trading for Craig Kimbrel. The Padres wanted Brett Phillips as part of the return for Kimbrel and Luhnow would not include Phillips so the deal never came to fruition. Then just days later Luhnow included Phillips in the deal for Fiers/Gomez. I will always wonder how things would have turned out if Luhnow HAD acquired Kimbrel and the Astros had Kimbrel in the bullpen vs the Royals..... and how different things might have turned out if Luhnow HAD NOT acquired Fiers and Gumpez. Boy did that come back to haunt us in more ways than one. Outside of the obvious with Fires, imagine having Hader and Kimbrel in the bullpen back then. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 8, 2022 1:23:28 GMT -6
Plus, as good as Luhnow was, he also dropped the ball on some deals as well that really hurt the farm system and didn't greatly improve us (Fiers/Gomez and Greinke). I remember in the days leading up to the trade deadline in 2015 Luhnow was in discussions with San Diego about trading for Craig Kimbrel. The Padres wanted Brett Phillips as part of the return for Kimbrel and Luhnow would not include Phillips so the deal never came to fruition. Then just days later Luhnow included Phillips in the deal for Fiers/Gomez. I will always wonder how things would have turned out if Luhnow HAD acquired Kimbrel and the Astros had Kimbrel in the bullpen vs the Royals..... and how different things might have turned out if Luhnow HAD NOT acquired Fiers and Gumpez. No doubt the Astros might’ve gone to the Series that year too. |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 8, 2022 14:19:31 GMT -6
If Stearns was the GM who fleeced Luhnow in the Fiers trade, he wouldn't be that bad a replacement for Click. Also, I thought I'd read he got a decent haul flipping Hader to San Diego, even if it was unpopular with the fans
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 8, 2022 15:29:36 GMT -6
If Stearns was the GM who fleeced Luhnow in the Fiers trade, he wouldn't be that bad a replacement for Click. Also, I thought I'd read he got a decent haul flipping Hader to San Diego, even if it was unpopular with the fans Stearns made the right call. A closer is the cherry on top, not the foundation. The Brewers weren’t contenders. |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 8, 2022 16:19:39 GMT -6
If Stearns was the GM who fleeced Luhnow in the Fiers trade, he wouldn't be that bad a replacement for Click. Also, I thought I'd read he got a decent haul flipping Hader to San Diego, even if it was unpopular with the fans Stearns made the right call. A closer is the cherry on top, not the foundation. The Brewers weren’t contenders. Hader's a great closer but he still hasn't pitched in a World Series |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 8, 2022 16:22:05 GMT -6
Stearns made the right call. A closer is the cherry on top, not the foundation. The Brewers weren’t contenders. Hader's a great closer but he still hasn't pitched in a World Series He should’ve at least pitched to Harper. That may be Melvin’s worst move. |
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Post by churchill on Nov 8, 2022 18:05:18 GMT -6
As much as l hate to say it Congratulations to the Astros, you deserve the win. A month or so ago l was asked by a poster here who l thought would be traded this winter Trout or Ohtani. At the time l said it depends on the new owner. It turns out it won't be Ohtani and I truly doubt it will be Trout either. S o l think neither will be traded, based on this tweet: It depends on a couple of factors. If the new owner is content with mediocrity and just wants him as an attraction to sell tickets then keep him and watch him walk. Many Japanese players seem to like the West Coast so be ready for the Mariners or Dodgers to push hard when he reaches FA. Or he could throw gobs of $ at him and retain him at the expense of the rest of the team. If his goal is to win long-term he can either trade him for a boatload of prospects or become the Dodgers 2.0 and have a massive payroll. Probably the quickest way to be a persistent competitor is to trade him (assuming the FO is competent). I'm hoping the new owner is Mega billionaire like Steve Balmer, the Met's owner, or a syndicate like the Dodgers have. Last year most of the playoff teams had monster payrolls, hopefully the new owner want to win and bring only money and leave everyday operations to the experts. Arte stuck his nose in and f***ed everything up and then wouldn't spend enough to fix it.
They estimate the Angels will sell for $3B, and with that price tag maybe money will flow like wine, maybe.
Los Angeles Dodgers: $265,396,675.
New York Mets: $261,273,320. ...
New York Yankees: $251,889,255. ...
Philadelphia Phillies: $242,215,746. ...
San Diego Padres: $220,849,135. ...
Los Angeles Angels: $169,413,094
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 8, 2022 18:28:24 GMT -6
It depends on a couple of factors. If the new owner is content with mediocrity and just wants him as an attraction to sell tickets then keep him and watch him walk. Many Japanese players seem to like the West Coast so be ready for the Mariners or Dodgers to push hard when he reaches FA. Or he could throw gobs of $ at him and retain him at the expense of the rest of the team. If his goal is to win long-term he can either trade him for a boatload of prospects or become the Dodgers 2.0 and have a massive payroll. Probably the quickest way to be a persistent competitor is to trade him (assuming the FO is competent). I'm hoping the new owner is Mega billionaire like Steve Balmer, the Met's owner, or a syndicate like the Dodgers have. Last year most of the playoff teams had monster payrolls, hopefully the new owner want to win and bring only money and leave everyday operations to the experts. Arte stuck his nose in and f***ed everything up and then wouldn't spend enough to fix it.
They estimate the Angels will sell for $3B, and with that price tag maybe money will flow like wine, maybe.
Los Angeles Dodgers: $265,396,675.
New York Mets: $261,273,320. ...
New York Yankees: $251,889,255. ...
Philadelphia Phillies: $242,215,746. ...
San Diego Padres: $220,849,135. ...
Los Angeles Angels: $169,413,094
So your strategy is to get a mega rich owner to buy all the top FAs? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 8, 2022 19:00:21 GMT -6
I'm hoping the new owner is Mega billionaire like Steve Balmer, the Met's owner, or a syndicate like the Dodgers have. Last year most of the playoff teams had monster payrolls, hopefully the new owner want to win and bring only money and leave everyday operations to the experts. Arte stuck his nose in and f***ed everything up and then wouldn't spend enough to fix it.
They estimate the Angels will sell for $3B, and with that price tag maybe money will flow like wine, maybe.
Los Angeles Dodgers: $265,396,675.
New York Mets: $261,273,320. ...
New York Yankees: $251,889,255. ...
Philadelphia Phillies: $242,215,746. ...
San Diego Padres: $220,849,135. ...
Los Angeles Angels: $169,413,094
So your strategy is to get a mega rich owner to buy all the top FAs? Money can't buy happiness.... |
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Post by churchill on Nov 8, 2022 20:56:55 GMT -6
I'm hoping the new owner is Mega billionaire like Steve Balmer, the Met's owner, or a syndicate like the Dodgers have. Last year most of the playoff teams had monster payrolls, hopefully the new owner want to win and bring only money and leave everyday operations to the experts. Arte stuck his nose in and f***ed everything up and then wouldn't spend enough to fix it.
They estimate the Angels will sell for $3B, and with that price tag maybe money will flow like wine, maybe.
Los Angeles Dodgers: $265,396,675.
New York Mets: $261,273,320. ...
New York Yankees: $251,889,255. ...
Philadelphia Phillies: $242,215,746. ...
San Diego Padres: $220,849,135. ...
Los Angeles Angels: $169,413,094
So your strategy is to get a mega rich owner to buy all the top FAs? that's my hope, l am just a fan and have no say. But anyone that can afford $3B should hopefully not want to continue on the way of the past 8 years
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 8, 2022 21:18:59 GMT -6
So your strategy is to get a mega rich owner to buy all the top FAs? that's my hope, l am just a fan and have no say. But anyone that can afford $3B should hopefully not want to continue on the way of the past 8 years
You should be hoping that the Giants sign Judge. That the Yankees freakout and basically give you their farm for Trout and Ohtani. And 3 years from now, you have solid, young, cheap team. Your base is so solid/deep that you either sign the top free agents, and/or, trade some of the farm players for top players.... But right now, your team is in purgatory..... No money is going to help it..... |
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