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Post by inaltuvewetrust on Aug 4, 2023 10:34:06 GMT -6
Am I missing something? Sure, it would be nice if his average was closer to or above .300, but I think Melton’s numbers are pretty good this season. 71 runs, 18 home-runs, 40 RBIs, 40 SBs, .840 OPS. I could have worded that better. He has not performed in AA yet because he is still in A+ ball. I was saying he hasn't faced stiffer competition yet. His numbers at his level are indeed good, it's just not a very high level. Makes sense! The important question is, why have they not promoted him to AA yet? He seems to be hitting in A+ pretty well, even better as of late. I think it's time. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 4, 2023 11:00:08 GMT -6
The money line on the Astros winning the WS went from 850 to 700 after the Verlander trade.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 4, 2023 11:07:17 GMT -6
We send down Julks for either Corey Dickerson who was released by the Nats. Or bring up Singleton and see what he has for alittle while. Also Andrew Vazquez is still avalaible as a LHP out of the pen he wouldnt be bad Dickerson hasn't been a league-average hitter since 2019 and is posting a 70 wRC+ this season. I mean, why? Just why? Astros have been clamoring about a LHB. He is left handed. Sure he is average batting but Left handed. .250 avg hitter that's not bad but its not great either. It's just to suit there want at Left handed bat. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 4, 2023 11:29:25 GMT -6
Dickerson hasn't been a league-average hitter since 2019 and is posting a 70 wRC+ this season. I mean, why? Just why? Astros have been clamoring about a LHB. He is left handed. Sure he is average batting but Left handed. .250 avg hitter that's not bad but its not great either. It's just to suit there want at Left handed bat. If they wanted a LH bat so bad, they could’ve traded Julks or Meyers. Instead, they keep utilizing the most pointless platoon in baseball. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 4, 2023 11:33:03 GMT -6
I'm also curious if Hunter McCormick will go back to his former handle. I think he's keeping us in suspense You're in suspense?  |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 4, 2023 15:57:08 GMT -6
Singular defensive play hero Trey Mancini was released.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 4, 2023 16:26:22 GMT -6
Singular defensive play hero Trey Mancini was released. No, we don't want him. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 4, 2023 17:19:45 GMT -6
Singular defensive play hero Trey Mancini was released. No, we don't want him. You didn’t catch my sarcasm? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 4, 2023 17:41:46 GMT -6
You didn’t catch my sarcasm? Did you use two tildes? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 4, 2023 18:14:15 GMT -6
You didn’t catch my sarcasm? Did you use two tildes? /s |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 4, 2023 18:18:49 GMT -6
You didn’t catch my sarcasm? Did you use two tildes? I like some big ole tildes, just so long as there are not droopy |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 4, 2023 18:22:07 GMT -6
I like some big ole tildes, just so long as there are not droopy That’s my boy. |
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Post by talshill on Aug 4, 2023 20:45:00 GMT -6
You’re being disingenuous. Of course I can’t prove it and you know it. But I’ll point out that you are the one who stated that even if Verlander helped them win the next 3 WS that trading Gilbert was a bad move. Is retaining Gilbert worth 3 trophies (your initiative, not mine)? Hell I’d trade Alvarez if I knew it would bring me three straight titles. The individual players, especially prospects, are not as valuable as the ultimate prize. And which rumored SP trade candidate out there was 1) actually available 2) better than Verlander and how do you knew they wouldn’t want Gilbert as a minimum also? I don't think it's disingenuous. My point is that no one can say that any one move is the reason a TEAM wins a championship or not. The point is that this team sans-Verlander could win, and this team with Verlander could lose. If we win the WS this year, no one can go "see see!? Without the JV trade this never happens!" We can't know. So what's the point in asking if I'm okay with this trade if we win it all if we can't know how much this trade did or didn't contribute to that win? I'm saying this was a bad individual move regardless of whether the team succeeds. I already answered Bortaz's hypotheticals. I do have to point out that I there were no better pitchers available than JV, but my point from the get go is that we did not need someone of that caliber. Regardless, what we know of the situation makes it clear they didn't make this move because they felt there were no other options. Crane's comments make it clear that they were excited as soon as they knew the Mets would give up a bunch of money to do the deal. They had no problems sending our top prospects away In the end I think this is just a difference in philosophy. My view is that 2017 and 2022 were great, but they're also the past. When we lost to the Yankees tonight, did you say to yourself "well, at least we have two trophies!" I didn't. That didn't make this loss more enjoyable. If we win the WS this year and Gilbert turns into a star for the Mets, the fact that we won the WS in the past will not make me regret the fact that Gilbert is on the Mets every time I see a highlight of him for the six+ years after the WS win is over. Maybe if we actually had a time machine and could see that it was Verlander specifically instead of Flaherty or some other pitcher who is the difference maker, that not making this deal and making a different one would actually cost us a WS win, then I could actually weigh the championship vs. keeping Gilbert. But since we can't... I’ve understood your point all along. I would have preferred to keep Gilbert as well. It’s impossible to know at this point how valuable Verlander will be vs. keeping Gilbert. MY point is that a known HOF-caliber pitcher (that we have for an extreme discount) will probably contribute more over the next 2.3 years than Gilbert may have ever contributed. As good as Gilbert has looked he’s still a prospect with a not-insignificant chance of flaming out. We’ll see. Regardless, it’s a moot point now. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 4, 2023 21:14:35 GMT -6
Dusty waited so long to play Chas every day my guess is he won't bat Chas cleanup, Bregman 6th and Abreu 7th. Which is what I'd do I love Bregman but the fact that the dude has such a hard time even lashing doubles and bats cleanup ahead of Yordan freaking Álvarez is a joke you can’t even write. I remember when Ensberg started to struggle but still had great ABs and drew walks, after months the manager at the time finally hit him second, and he got on base like two or three times and scored...and then he was moved right back down in the lineup. This feels like that. Why on earth is he not batting second ahead of the big guys? |
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 4, 2023 21:15:25 GMT -6
I could have worded that better. He has not performed in AA yet because he is still in A+ ball. I was saying he hasn't faced stiffer competition yet. His numbers at his level are indeed good, it's just not a very high level. Makes sense! The important question is, why have they not promoted him to AA yet? He seems to be hitting in A+ pretty well, even better as of late. I think it's time. Same. Should be any day. He didn't get off to an excellent start this year, it's really been the last month+ that has brought his numbers up. But I would be shocked if he's not in AA within the next couple of weeks. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 5, 2023 13:52:38 GMT -6
Astros: We’ll get them tomorrow, no worries.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 5, 2023 16:17:20 GMT -6
Astros: We’ll get them tomorrow, no worries. Yes we will |
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Post by Saint on Aug 5, 2023 19:36:19 GMT -6
As if we needed another reason to like Jose Ramirez on Cleveland. He dropped Tim Anderson with a wild, but effective, punch during a brawl in the game tonight.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 5, 2023 19:37:57 GMT -6
As if we needed another reason to like Jose Ramirez on Cleveland. He dropped Tim Anderson with a wild, but effective, punch during a brawl in the game tonight. Do Sox fans even like Tim Anderson? |
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Post by Saint on Aug 5, 2023 21:56:37 GMT -6
As if we needed another reason to like Jose Ramirez on Cleveland. He dropped Tim Anderson with a wild, but effective, punch during a brawl in the game tonight. Do Sox fans even like Tim Anderson? Tim Anderson doesn't even like Tim Anderson. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 5, 2023 22:44:42 GMT -6
Cleveland radio call of the fight is incredible.
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Post by Saint on Aug 5, 2023 23:01:08 GMT -6
"Down goes Anderson!"
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 5, 2023 23:17:31 GMT -6
Man, at least we didn't go as crazy as the Angels did at the deadline. Decided to keep the best rental in baseball history and go for it...five game losing streak and down to 4th place in the division ROTFL.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 6, 2023 6:20:35 GMT -6
Cleveland radio call of the fight is incredible. Jackie got Jacked! |
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 6, 2023 8:57:02 GMT -6
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 6, 2023 18:11:16 GMT -6
Jon Singleton may be on his way and Urquidy needs to be in the pen not JP.
Let Urquidy get back into things from there. And if Javier Does not so well in his next outing he should be the pen guy.
My thing is get this crap sorted out soon before it's to late.
Also this offseason is gonna be intresting when it comes to Pena if he still isn't preforming and all our SPs whom are comming back and ready to go.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 6, 2023 19:15:44 GMT -6
Jon Singleton may be on his way and Urquidy needs to be in the pen not JP. Let Urquidy get back into things from there. And if Javier Does not so well in his next outing he should be the pen guy. My thing is get this crap sorted out soon before it's to late. Also this offseason is gonna be intresting when it comes to Pena if he still isn't preforming and all our SPs whom are comming back and ready to go. Good thing the Astros have options. I just wish Dusty would understand one thing, Diaz should be the starting catcher. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 6, 2023 20:48:00 GMT -6
Jon Singleton may be on his way and Urquidy needs to be in the pen not JP. Let Urquidy get back into things from there. And if Javier Does not so well in his next outing he should be the pen guy. My thing is get this crap sorted out soon before it's to late. Also this offseason is gonna be intresting when it comes to Pena if he still isn't preforming and all our SPs whom are comming back and ready to go. Good thing the Astros have options. I just wish Dusty would understand one thing, Diaz should be the starting catcher. That's not gonna change next year with Verlander here. If anything it cemented Maldy for atleast 2 more years |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 6, 2023 21:23:57 GMT -6
Good thing the Astros have options. I just wish Dusty would understand one thing, Diaz should be the starting catcher. That's not gonna change next year with Verlander here. If anything it cemented Maldy for atleast 2 more years That makes the trade look worse now. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 6, 2023 22:04:04 GMT -6
That's not gonna change next year with Verlander here. If anything it cemented Maldy for atleast 2 more years That makes the trade looks worse now. Maybe Maldonado gets Syphillis from Shelia Jackson Lee, and retires from baseball in the OS…I mean one could hope |
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