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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 14, 2023 16:13:04 GMT -6
Just want to say Altuve is at a disadvantage on RBI considering the fact that Dusty puts the worse three hitters in the bottom of the lineup that hit before him. Agreed, it’s such a waste to see that. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 14, 2023 16:48:41 GMT -6
Just want to say Altuve is at a disadvantage on RBI considering the fact that Dusty puts the worse three hitters in the bottom of the lineup that hit before him. Well I don't think it will be a big factor in his consideration anyways. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 14, 2023 19:41:37 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: 4
300 SB: 9
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 8
1000 RBI: 276
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Post by Saint on Aug 15, 2023 19:56:41 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: 3
300 SB: 9
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 8
1000 RBI: 276
I would bet we don't see Altuve again until Friday. This knee contusion will hamper his remaining SBs too.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 15, 2023 20:01:31 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved! 2000 Hits: 3 300 SB: 9 200 HR: Achieved! 400 Doubles: 8 1000 RBI: 276 I would bet we don't see Altuve again until Friday. This knee contusion will hamper his remaining SBs too. Yeah, and I think this really hampers Altuve hitting the RBI milestone this season. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 16, 2023 9:18:11 GMT -6
Playing around with a subscription to stathead on baseball-reference.com...
Once Altuve gets his 2000th Hit and 300th SB, he'll become one of only 19 players to achieve:
2000 Hits
200 HR
300 SB
1000 Runs
Of those 19, 11 are in the HoF or would be if not for steroid drama.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 16, 2023 9:30:24 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved! 2000 Hits: 3 300 SB: 9 200 HR: Achieved! 400 Doubles: 8 1000 RBI: 276 I would bet we don't see Altuve again until Friday. This knee contusion will hamper his remaining SBs too. Yeah, and I think this really hampers Altuve hitting the RBI milestone this season. LOL |
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Post by Saint on Aug 19, 2023 19:24:07 GMT -6
2000 Achieved! Now the press for 3000.
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Post by Saint on Aug 19, 2023 20:14:33 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 9
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 8
1000 RBI: 276
1500 Runs: 470
3000 Hits: 999
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Post by Saint on Aug 21, 2023 1:26:41 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 8
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 8
1000 RBI: 275
1500 Runs: 469
3000 Hits: 997
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Post by Saint on Aug 21, 2023 2:56:16 GMT -6
Out of players that played at least half of their games at 2B, Altuve is:
28th in Hits
17th in HR
19th in SB
28th in Runs
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 22, 2023 13:30:57 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Aug 27, 2023 11:34:19 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 8
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 6
1000 RBI: 274
1500 Runs: 464
3000 Hits: 992
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Post by Saint on Aug 27, 2023 17:03:54 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 27, 2023 17:20:33 GMT -6
Don’t get Tim all hot and bothered. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 27, 2023 17:32:31 GMT -6
That looks great, but really doesn't mean much without knowing if it's the same number of seasons. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 28, 2023 5:57:02 GMT -6
That looks great, but really doesn't mean much without knowing if it's the same number of seasons. It's showing from an age standpoint though which is actually more telling for longevity milestones. P.S. what is the real difference between Games and Seasons? |
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Post by inaltuvewetrust on Aug 28, 2023 7:31:19 GMT -6
That looks great, but really doesn't mean much without knowing if it's the same number of seasons. It's showing from an age standpoint though which is actually more telling for longevity milestones. P.S. what is the real difference between Games and Seasons? I agree regarding games and seasons. I think Altuve has played more seasons through age 33, but he played through the shortened 2022 season + a 2023 injury plagued season. Also, one thing that really elevates Altuve's resume is the playoff numbers. Altuve has been a modern Mr. October. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 28, 2023 7:54:39 GMT -6
Biggio never lost a year due to stupid Covid, but he did lose a year due to stupid Preston Wilson.
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Post by Saint on Aug 28, 2023 10:02:23 GMT -6
We compare them because they're both high Hit-total batters that played primarily 2B, but they're actually pretty different in a lot of ways.
Biggio was a more complete player. He just was. He was a better fielder, better runner, more patient at the plate with better OBPs. He also had way more utility playing drastically different multiple positions over his career. Biggio's ability to go from being an AS-caliber Catcher AND transitioning to an MVP-caliber 2B then spending two full seasons in the OF while amassing the offensive numbers he had is shamefully underrated by the media.
Altuve on the other hand, has been a more elite offensive player than Biggio ever was. Biggio had five seasons with an OPS+ over 130 in 20 seasons. Altuve is on his way to a 7th in only 13 seasons. Altuve has also had historically great postseason performances (until last year), that Biggio never really had outside of a couple short postseason series. I don't think Altuve will stay healthy enough to reach some of the totals that Biggio did (1800+ Runs, 400+ SB, 600+ Doubles), but I think he will pass him in HR and he'll definitely finish with a higher AVG and probably OPS.
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Post by Saint on Aug 28, 2023 20:49:05 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 8
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 5
1000 RBI: 270
1500 Runs: 460
3000 Hits: 988
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Post by Saint on Sept 5, 2023 6:04:57 GMT -6
In 2013, Altuve played in 152 games and scored 64 runs.
In 2023, Altuve has played in 67 games and has scored 60 runs.
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 5, 2023 7:40:38 GMT -6
In 2013, Altuve played in 152 games and scored 64 runs. In 2023, Altuve has played in 67 games and has scored 60 runs. What Was Wrong With Altuve in 13? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 5, 2023 8:11:35 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved! 2000 Hits: Achieved! 300 SB: 8 200 HR: Achieved! 400 Doubles: 5 1000 RBI: 270 1500 Runs: 460 3000 Hits: 988 Last night, Jose was trying to make his magic number to be 4 in doubles |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 5, 2023 8:14:16 GMT -6
In 2013, Altuve played in 152 games and scored 64 runs. In 2023, Altuve has played in 67 games and has scored 60 runs. What Was Wrong With Altuve in 13? Should we add 300 HR, he is at 204 HR, thus 96 away |
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Post by Saint on Sept 5, 2023 8:43:15 GMT -6
In 2013, Altuve played in 152 games and scored 64 runs. In 2023, Altuve has played in 67 games and has scored 60 runs. What Was Wrong With Altuve in 13? Partly the lack of good hitters behind him, but mostly the .316 OBP. This year his AVG alone is .316. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 5, 2023 8:44:32 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 8
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 5
1000 RBI: 268
1500 Runs: 454
3000 Hits: 982
300 HR: 96
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Post by Saint on Sept 5, 2023 21:10:13 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 8
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 5
1000 RBI: 265
1500 Runs: 451
3000 Hits: 979
300 HR: 93
Can he reach 20 HR this season? Up to 15 now.
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Post by Ashitaka on Sept 5, 2023 23:55:50 GMT -6
Piece from The Athletic after Altuve's big game:
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ARLINGTON, Texas — The igniter isn’t imposing. He stands 5-foot-6, is a shade over 165 pounds and still can place an entire franchise on his shoulders. Jose Altuve can carry the Houston Astros however far they need to go, be it back atop the American League West or to a second consecutive World Series championship.
“He goes, we go,” utilityman Mauricio Dubón said. “That’s how we’ve been. Every time he does it, we’re not surprised, really, but at the same time, it’s unreal what he does. If he goes, we go.”
On Tuesday night, Altuve went. He entered an echelon even he had not yet reached, recording the first three-homer regular-season game of his career. He collected all of them across the first three innings of Houston’s 14-1 annihilation of the Rangers, authoring the sort of awe-inspiring performance this franchise has almost come to expect.
“Our guys knew how big this series was and he carried us — that guy, it seems like there’s never a big moment for him,” veteran catcher Martín Maldonado said. “We were like ‘Oh my God, this guy has three homers before a couple of their guys have an at-bat. What’s going on?’ He’s our main guy. If he goes, we go as a team. That guy is going to be a Hall of Famer and everything you do, you feel like he’s getting better and better, just like the wine.”
Altuve hit three different pitches from two different pitchers, first demonstrating patience during two five-pitch plate appearances against starter Nathan Eovaldi before ambushing a second-pitch cutter from Dane Dunning during the third inning. The baseball traveled 426 feet to straightaway center field, sending Houston’s dugout into a state of delirium.
“He can hit anything. He can hit standing upside down,” third baseman Alex Bregman said. “He can hit. He can flat-out hit.”
Manager Dusty Baker, a man with more than 50 years of service in the sport, could not recall witnessing something similar.
Dubón had.
“On PlayStation,” he quipped.
Baker finally mused that “maybe Barry Bonds” had matched Altuve’s exploits. But, no, not even baseball’s home run king accomplished what Altuve did during these two games. According to ESPN, Altuve is the fourth player in major league history to hit three home runs in the first three innings of a game, joining Manny Machado, Mike Cameron and Carl Reynolds.
“That was unbelievable,” Baker said. “He was on the ball. He was on the ball all night.”
Altuve’s was the 17th three-homer regular-season game in Astros history and the first of his career. Altuve did tally three home runs during Game 1 of the 2017 American League Division Series against the Red Sox.
Altuve struck two home runs during Monday’s 13-6 massacre, too, making him the first Astro to ever hit five home runs across a two-game span. His second home run on Monday night arrived in the ninth inning, meaning he homered in four consecutive plate appearances.
“It obviously doesn’t happen very often, but I’m happy it happened, especially in the last month of the season when we’re trying to get to first place (and) stay there,” Altuve said. “Good timing.”
Milestones are piling up for a man trying to make up for lost time. August delivered Altuve’s 2,000th career hit and first career cycle, but the start of September signals the sort of urgency in which Altuve thrives. His 70-game absence earlier this season threatened to set Houston’s season askew.
Houston is averaging 6.26 runs per game since Altuve returned from the injured list on July 26. He is slashing .367/.436/.633 with 21 extra-base hits in those 38 games, propelling the club back to a place it never intends to leave. The Astros exited Tuesday night in sole possession of first place in the American League West for the first time all season.
“Nothing is done yet. Nothing is over,” Altuve said. “We’re competing against really good teams.”
Altuve is making one look miserable all by himself. He now has 10 hits against Texas this season. Seven are home runs. He lifted the fifth pitch of Tuesday’s game into the left field seats. Two months ago, in this same ballpark, Altuve swatted the first pitch of that four-game series into the left field seats. Houston won that game and then two others, loosening Texas’ stranglehold of the American League West.
The Rangers are 26-27 since, slipping from playoff shoo-in to the precipice of an epic collapse. Toronto’s victory against Oakland on Tuesday night pushed the Rangers out of the American League playoff picture entirely. Texas has lost 14 of its past 18 games, succumbing under the weight of a wretched bullpen, a top-heavy lineup regressing to its mean and, this week, a Houston offense executing at a level few can comprehend.
Domination does not begin to describe what Altuve and the Astros have demonstrated here across two days. Their lineup scored 27 runs and launched 11 homers. Altuve has five of them. In the Rangers’ 63-season history, not once had they ever surrendered 11 home runs in a two-game span.
Houston’s nine-hole hitters — Dubón on Monday and Maldonado on Tuesday — each struck two home runs apiece. Texas asked backup catcher Austin Hedges to pitch the ninth inning of both games. Both of his outings were scoreless, something none of his teammates paid to pitch could produce on either night.
“It’s obviously amazing,” Altuve said of his performance and the outcomes. “It’s a good thing to do, especially in the situation we are (in) right now, trying to get (into) first place, trying to win the division. It’s good.”
Texas demonstrated its desperation to dethrone its in-state rival with Tuesday’s pitching decision. Eovaldi ended his 33-game stint on the injured list without a minor-league rehab assignment and with a task to tame Houston’s offense.
Eovaldi collected four outs. Houston’s lineup whiffed once on the 16 swings it took against him. Just two of his pitches touched 95 mph. Altuve saw both of them during his first at-bat. The second sailed in the strike zone, bringing the count to 3-1. Eovaldi returned with another, this time at 94.9 mph. Altuve sent it 406 feet away into the left-field seats.
“He’s our igniter,” Baker said. “He ignites our offense.”
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 7, 2023 7:13:00 GMT -6
Has any player ever been more important to his team than Jose Altuve?
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