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Post by inaltuvewetrust on Sept 7, 2023 8:28:46 GMT -6
Has any player ever been more important to his team than Jose Altuve? Off the top of my head, I can't think of anyone else in today's current game. He is also probably top 5 in MLB history in terms of importance to his team. He is just so fun to watch and we have been so lucky to watch him over the years. |
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Post by talshill on Sept 7, 2023 11:34:50 GMT -6
I can’t think of a Houston player (or any player on any American sports team) in any sport who has delivered in big situations as often as Altuve. He is a major reason why “da Jankees” have been the Astros’ whipping boys for nearly a decade. I’ll admit I occasionally get frustrated watching his impatience at the plate and I still contend that if he had a bit more plate discipline he’d challenge .400 just about every year, but I can’t remember a single player being more valuable to a team over an extended period of time than Jose.
It’ll be an extremely sad day when he hangs up his cleats.
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 7, 2023 12:26:34 GMT -6
I can’t think of a Houston player (or any player on any American sports team) in any sport who has delivered in big situations as often as Altuve. He is a major reason why “da Jankees” have been the Astros’ whipping boys for nearly a decade. I’ll admit I occasionally get frustrated watching his impatience at the plate and I still contend that if he had a bit more plate discipline he’d challenge .400 just about every year, but I can’t remember a single player being more valuable to a team over an extended period of time than Jose. It’ll be an extremely sad day when he hangs up his cleats. Totally. Jordan and the Bulls is the only I can think of who was comparably valuable like Altuve |
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Post by talshill on Sept 7, 2023 17:47:36 GMT -6
I can’t think of a Houston player (or any player on any American sports team) in any sport who has delivered in big situations as often as Altuve. He is a major reason why “da Jankees” have been the Astros’ whipping boys for nearly a decade. I’ll admit I occasionally get frustrated watching his impatience at the plate and I still contend that if he had a bit more plate discipline he’d challenge .400 just about every year, but I can’t remember a single player being more valuable to a team over an extended period of time than Jose. It’ll be an extremely sad day when he hangs up his cleats. Totally. Jordan and the Bulls is the only I can think of who was comparably valuable like Altuve IMO basketball is a different animal. One great player can swing a team from cellar dwellers to the penthouse. When you’re one man on a 26-man roster the opportunities are far less. Jordan may have been more valuable to his team but only because of the inherent differences between the sports. Jordan had far more opportunities to affect his game than Altuve has his. |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 7, 2023 18:27:52 GMT -6
Totally. Jordan and the Bulls is the only I can think of who was comparably valuable like Altuve IMO basketball is a different animal. One great player can swing a team from cellar dwellers to the penthouse. When you’re one man on a 26-man roster the opportunities are far less. Jordan may have been more valuable to his team but only because of the inherent differences between the sports. Jordan had far more opportunities to affect his game than Altuve has his. I wasn't trying to equate basketball with baseball. Just thinking of another athlete across pro sports who delivered in big game situations. A sport where your go-to guy gets more opportunities is natural if I were trying to compare someone to Altuve
But Jordan was not more valuable to the titles his team got than his supporting cast was to the championship rings he wears. Like you said, basketball is a different animal
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Post by talshill on Sept 7, 2023 19:34:21 GMT -6
IMO basketball is a different animal. One great player can swing a team from cellar dwellers to the penthouse. When you’re one man on a 26-man roster the opportunities are far less. Jordan may have been more valuable to his team but only because of the inherent differences between the sports. Jordan had far more opportunities to affect his game than Altuve has his. I wasn't trying to equate basketball with baseball. Just thinking of another athlete across pro sports who delivered in big game situations. A sport where your go-to guy gets more opportunities is natural if I were trying to compare someone to Altuve
But Jordan was not more valuable to the titles his team got than his supporting cast was to the championship rings he wears. Like you said, basketball is a different animal
It would be kinda cool to be able to toss at-bats to your best player like basketball players do with the basketball. "Maldonado gives way to Altuve here with 2 outs in the ninth. Altuve is 6 for nine on the day..." |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 7, 2023 20:46:18 GMT -6
I wasn't trying to equate basketball with baseball. Just thinking of another athlete across pro sports who delivered in big game situations. A sport where your go-to guy gets more opportunities is natural if I were trying to compare someone to Altuve
But Jordan was not more valuable to the titles his team got than his supporting cast was to the championship rings he wears. Like you said, basketball is a different animal
It would be kinda cool to be able to toss at-bats to your best player like basketball players do with the basketball. "Maldonado gives way to Altuve here with 2 outs in the ninth. Altuve is 6 for nine on the day..." Dusty couldn't keep up with the substitutions. He'd forget to take McCormick out against a LHP |
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Post by Saint on Sept 12, 2023 16:10:18 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 8
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 5
1000 RBI: 262
1500 Runs: 448
3000 Hits: 975
300 HR: 92
I'd love to see an old-school 3-4 hit day for Altuve with a SB or two. He's 10 Hits away from 100 Hits for the season. This would give him 11/13 years with triple digit HRs. The only non-triple digit years would be the wasted year of 2020 and his partial rookie season.
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Post by Saint on Sept 18, 2023 11:29:51 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 8
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 4
1000 RBI: 258
1500 Runs: 442
3000 Hits: 969
300 HR: 91
I know he won't have played enough games to be in the running, but if he'd have had even just another 20-25 games I'd have to believe he'd be a SS favorite again this year. He's still on pace for his 2nd best offensive season from a percentage standpoint behind 2017. To close out the year, it would be nice to see him reach 80 Runs 50 RBI 20 HR and 100 Hits.
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Post by Saint on Sept 18, 2023 21:03:24 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 8
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 2
1000 RBI: 256
1500 Runs: 441
3000 Hits: 967
300 HR: 91
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Post by Saint on Sept 20, 2023 6:11:47 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 8
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 1
1000 RBI: 256
1500 Runs: 440
3000 Hits: 965
300 HR: 91
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Post by Saint on Sept 22, 2023 11:48:18 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 8
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: 1
1000 RBI: 256
1500 Runs: 440
3000 Hits: 965
300 HR: 91
Let's get that 400th double today to lead off the game and get some early runs!
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 22, 2023 16:24:23 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!300 SB: 8 200 HR: Achieved!400 Doubles: 1 1000 RBI: 256 1500 Runs: 440 3000 Hits: 965 300 HR: 91 Let's get that 400th double today to lead off the game and get some early runs! F’ that, Altuve’s first AB needs to put him 90 HRs away from 300 careers HRs |
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Post by Saint on Sept 28, 2023 11:21:27 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 8
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: Achieved!
1000 RBI: 253
1500 Runs: 439
3000 Hits: 955
300 HR: 91
500 Doubles: 100
Also, he's sitting at a .316 AVG right now with a .934 OPS. Barring some type of ridiculous crash in the last three games, he should end up with another .300/.900 season. It would be his 5th season with an OPS over .900, and his 7th with an AVG over .300.
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Post by Saint on Oct 2, 2023 9:54:04 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved!
2000 Hits: Achieved!
300 SB: 7
200 HR: Achieved!
400 Doubles: Achieved!
1000 RBI: 253
1500 Runs: 438
3000 Hits: 953
300 HR: 91
500 Doubles: 100
He didn't exactly go out with a bang, but a successful season when he was healthy. Hopefully this time off reignites him and he gets hot for the postseason (unlike 2022). We really need the offense this year...
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 2, 2023 9:56:04 GMT -6
1000 Runs: Achieved! 2000 Hits: Achieved! 300 SB: 7 200 HR: Achieved! 400 Doubles: Achieved! 1000 RBI: 253 1500 Runs: 438 3000 Hits: 953 300 HR: 91 500 Doubles: 100 He didn't exactly go out with a bang, but a successful season when he was healthy. Hopefully this time off reignites him and he gets hot for the postseason (unlike 2022). We really need the offense this year... Please no more squatting and taking home run pitches, José. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 2, 2023 17:30:40 GMT -6
Y'all really need to find someone else to bitch about:  |
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Post by Saint on Oct 2, 2023 19:12:03 GMT -6
Y'all really need to find someone else to bitch about: Right. But the 2022 postseason was uncharacteristically bad for him. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 3, 2023 8:45:03 GMT -6
Y'all really need to find someone else to bitch about: Right. But the 2022 postseason was uncharacteristically bad for him. I don’t see Peña replicating last postseason so they’ll need Altuve even more this time. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 3, 2023 10:31:50 GMT -6
Right. But the 2022 postseason was uncharacteristically bad for him. I don’t see Peña replicating last postseason so they’ll need Altuve even more time. I like that we have actually have some benches pieces that can hit this time. Even if they want Maldonado to catch, you could see this lineup: Altuve 2B Bregman 3B Yordan LF Tucker RF Pena 1B Diaz DH Chas CF Pena SS Maldonado C And still have Dubon and Brantley available for pinch hitting duties. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 20, 2023 9:11:58 GMT -6
HRs until all-time postseason leader: 5
Runs until all-time postseason leader: 27
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 20, 2023 9:41:43 GMT -6
100 Postseason Games: ACHIEVED
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 20, 2023 10:13:53 GMT -6
Y'all really need to find someone else to bitch about: Less bitching overall would be a good thing. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 20, 2023 11:41:49 GMT -6
Y'all really need to find someone else to bitch about: We have: Kyle Tucker. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 20, 2023 12:59:18 GMT -6
Y'all really need to find someone else to bitch about: We have: Kyle Tucker. Mother Tucker |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 20, 2023 20:41:59 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Oct 20, 2023 22:05:26 GMT -6
HRs until all-time postseason leader: 5 Runs until all-time postseason leader: 27 HRs until all-time postseason leader: 4 Runs until all-time postseason leader: 26 |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 21, 2023 9:39:55 GMT -6
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 21, 2023 10:26:52 GMT -6
Wonder how many writers will not have him on their HOF ballot? |
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Post by Saint on Oct 21, 2023 10:34:12 GMT -6
Wonder how many writers will not have him on their HOF ballot? There will be some from NYC and LA that will never vote for him. But I think there will be plenty that will. Especially if he can have another 3-4 good years. |
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