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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 2, 2024 6:03:33 GMT -6
I think Bagwell has pushed back on the idea of using data only. He has said he thinks decisions require both the numbers side and the intangibles side of things. Basically he felt things were getting too analytical in baseball. So not full Goose Gossage but in the middle. If he is pushing back on the ideas a little would be ok because there is so much more to consider. Ignoring thought would be foolish. They appeared to ignore them with the Abreu decision. Everyone here (can’t remember Ash’s opinion) was elated when Jose Abreu was signed. Therefore, we’re Bagwell level, back of the baseball card mentality; not Luhnow, Click/analytical GMs. However, I will give everyone here credit, we all knew Montero’s contract was idiotic. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 2, 2024 6:48:55 GMT -6
If he is pushing back on the ideas a little would be ok because there is so much more to consider. Ignoring thought would be foolish. They appeared to ignore them with the Abreu decision. Everyone here (can’t remember Ash’s opinion) was elated when Jose Abreu was signed. Therefore, we’re Bagwell level, back of the baseball card mentality; not Luhnow, Click/analytical GMs. However, I will give everyone here credit, we all knew Montero’s contract was idiotic. But if I remember correctly, even some of the analytical data on Abreu was still pretty positive. His HRs had been down, but his exit velocity and stuff was still supposedly pretty good. I think Abreu was just a pure unpredictable flop. Montero was not, but I think that was more Crane. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 2, 2024 7:12:44 GMT -6
Everyone here (can’t remember Ash’s opinion) was elated when Jose Abreu was signed. Therefore, we’re Bagwell level, back of the baseball card mentality; not Luhnow, Click/analytical GMs. However, I will give everyone here credit, we all knew Montero’s contract was idiotic. But if I remember correctly, even some of the analytical data on Abreu was still pretty positive. His HRs had been down, but his exit velocity and stuff was still supposedly pretty good. I think Abreu was just a pure unpredictable flop. Montero was not, but I think that was more Crane. I was definitely onboard for Abreu. I still wanted Yuli to be re-signed as a bench player. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 2, 2024 10:51:37 GMT -6
But if I remember correctly, even some of the analytical data on Abreu was still pretty positive. His HRs had been down, but his exit velocity and stuff was still supposedly pretty good. I think Abreu was just a pure unpredictable flop. Montero was not, but I think that was more Crane. I was definitely onboard for Abreu. I still wanted Yuli to be re-signed as a bench player. We were all wrong about Abreu. We were all right about Montero. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 6, 2024 21:05:38 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Jul 7, 2024 23:22:23 GMT -6
So every position player on the team who has played in 60 games or more now has an OPS+ of 100 or better. Pretty impressive considering how terrible and inconsistent our offense was in May.
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Post by koolade2 on Jul 8, 2024 18:24:55 GMT -6
Everybody Swimming and or you out of power. I see over 2 million without. Good Luck if this affecting anyone BE SAFE
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 9, 2024 19:33:26 GMT -6
GTFO  |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 9, 2024 20:10:55 GMT -6
To say LMJ has been a disappointment is an understatement.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 10, 2024 5:38:34 GMT -6
GTFO And in other news, water is wet. |
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Post by m240 on Jul 10, 2024 6:05:27 GMT -6
GTFO And in other news, water is wet. It must be nice to have enough money to pay Lance 85 million for nothing, Abreu millions for nothing, and Montero millions for very little. Hell I thought I was being generous for giving the yard guys a 50 tip for a job well done. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 10, 2024 7:06:56 GMT -6
GTFO If anything was “Due” to happen, it was Lance McCullers Jr. to have another injury/setback, to keep him from pitching for the team again. It’s well beyond disappointing/frustrating, beyond sad/pathetic; it’s just laughable. Like why does anyone consider him to be an Astro anymore? He is not. His jersey should be shipped to those that wear the Super Bowl losers shirts. At least let it be used for something. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 10, 2024 8:53:15 GMT -6
This all just seems like a long journey to avoid career-ending surgery. It’s like patching up a dam by having someone stick their finger in a crack.
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Post by Saint on Jul 10, 2024 10:21:56 GMT -6
Hopefully we can get something out of him at some point but it isn't looking good.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 10, 2024 10:51:19 GMT -6
This all just seems like a long journey to avoid career-ending surgery. It’s like patching up a dam by having someone stick their finger in a crack. Problem is another crack opens, and then another and another…one only has so many fingers… |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 10, 2024 11:07:16 GMT -6
Hopefully we can get something out of him at some point but it isn't looking good. LMFAO.and just what do you think someone would give us for him? Surely you don't mean he's going to actually play and be productive. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 10, 2024 11:23:34 GMT -6
And the fans continue to bitch at the idea of signing Trevor Bauer.
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Post by Saint on Jul 10, 2024 11:59:08 GMT -6
Hopefully we can get something out of him at some point but it isn't looking good. LMFAO.and just what do you think someone would give us for him? Surely you don't mean he's going to actually play and be productive. All we can do is hope he makes it back and does something. I don't expect much, but I'm hoping he can contribute something. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 11, 2024 5:57:02 GMT -6
LMFAO.and just what do you think someone would give us for him? Surely you don't mean he's going to actually play and be productive. All we can do is hope he makes it back and does something. I don't expect much, but I'm hoping he can contribute something. At what point do we “bury him in the H” as he requested? |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jul 11, 2024 7:20:02 GMT -6
This dude lived by the breaking ball and died by it. With his violent delivery he wasn't going to last long.
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Post by Saint on Jul 11, 2024 8:17:26 GMT -6
All we can do is hope he makes it back and does something. I don't expect much, but I'm hoping he can contribute something. At what point do we “bury him in the H” as he requested? I'm still going to hold out hope that he can make it back and be useful out of the bullpen. Whitley too. I don't think we'll have the trade resources to upgrade both the rotation and the bullpen before the trade deadline, so we need to find some arms somewhere. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 11, 2024 8:39:55 GMT -6
This dude lived by the breaking ball and died by it. With his violent delivery he wasn't going to last long. He did okay the fake season with sixty games, but any long reliever could've been a starter that year. The following season he couldn't make it past the first playoff game |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jul 11, 2024 13:32:53 GMT -6
This dude lived by the breaking ball and died by it. With his violent delivery he wasn't going to last long. He did okay the fake season with sixty games, but any long reliever could've been a starter that year. The following season he couldn't make it past the first playoff game Considering his last appearance was after being lit up by the Phillies and signing the big contract before the year. As was mentioned a few times "Mow em down Morton was let go in 18 and he is still mow em them down. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 12, 2024 7:25:42 GMT -6
At what point do we “bury him in the H” as he requested? I'm still going to hold out hope that he can make it back and be useful out of the bullpen. Whitley too. I don't think we'll have the trade resources to upgrade both the rotation and the bullpen before the trade deadline, so we need to find some arms somewhere. Whitley mad his third appearance back from the IL yesterday and pitched another perfect inning. Zero hits, zero walks, and zero runs since returning. Believe! BELIEVE!!!! |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 12, 2024 7:29:24 GMT -6
I'm still going to hold out hope that he can make it back and be useful out of the bullpen. Whitley too. I don't think we'll have the trade resources to upgrade both the rotation and the bullpen before the trade deadline, so we need to find some arms somewhere. Whitley mad his third appearance back from the IL yesterday and pitched another perfect inning. Zero hits, zero walks, and zero runs since returning. Believe! BELIEVE!!!! Fake news |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 12, 2024 8:38:44 GMT -6
Trade idea: Yandy Diaz from the Rays.
He's a career 129 wRC+ hitter and is under contract for next year as well at just $8 million. He's having a bit of a down year but would still represent about a 10% improvement over Singleton even if he doesn't rebound to his normal career numbers. The Rays are under .500, 11 games out of their division and 5.5 out of the Wild Card, and notoriously make deals to move soon-expiring contracts off their books.
If we could pick up Yandy Diaz, that would give us a good upgrade at 1B for this year and next. His $8 million and Jose Abreu's $20 million would both come off the books at the end of the 2025 season...right when Vlad jr. hits the free agent market. Unlike with Walker and Alonso (rentals) you get a little more control, and he won't cost the king's ransom that Vlad jr. will. You might even be able to use Singleton in the deal; they're the same age and if Singleton taps into a little more power without the rest of his number taking a hit, he'd basically be as good as Diaz is now, and has four cost-controlled years left, so the Rays could see that as a long-term and cost-effective benefit along with a decent mid-tier prospect or two.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 12, 2024 9:37:51 GMT -6
Trade idea: Yandy Diaz from the Rays. He's a career 129 wRC+ hitter and is under contract for next year as well at just $8 million. He's having a bit of a down year but would still represent about a 10% improvement over Singleton even if he doesn't rebound to his normal career numbers. The Rays are under .500, 11 games out of their division and 5.5 out of the Wild Card, and notoriously make deals to move soon-expiring contracts off their books. If we could pick up Yandy Diaz, that would give us a good upgrade at 1B for this year and next. His $8 million and Jose Abreu's $20 million would both come off the books at the end of the 2025 season...right when Vlad jr. hits the free agent market. Unlike with Walker and Alonso (rentals) you get a little more control, and he won't cost the king's ransom that Vlad jr. will. You might even be able to use Singleton in the deal; they're the same age and if Singleton taps into a little more power without the rest of his number taking a hit, he'd basically be as good as Diaz is now, and has four cost-controlled years left, so the Rays could see that as a long-term and cost-effective benefit along with a decent mid-tier prospect or two. I would be for this; just like you are, if the price is right. Can you give us a guess on what the trade package would be? Pedro Leon + ? |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 12, 2024 13:49:31 GMT -6
Trade idea: Yandy Diaz from the Rays. He's a career 129 wRC+ hitter and is under contract for next year as well at just $8 million. He's having a bit of a down year but would still represent about a 10% improvement over Singleton even if he doesn't rebound to his normal career numbers. The Rays are under .500, 11 games out of their division and 5.5 out of the Wild Card, and notoriously make deals to move soon-expiring contracts off their books. If we could pick up Yandy Diaz, that would give us a good upgrade at 1B for this year and next. His $8 million and Jose Abreu's $20 million would both come off the books at the end of the 2025 season...right when Vlad jr. hits the free agent market. Unlike with Walker and Alonso (rentals) you get a little more control, and he won't cost the king's ransom that Vlad jr. will. You might even be able to use Singleton in the deal; they're the same age and if Singleton taps into a little more power without the rest of his number taking a hit, he'd basically be as good as Diaz is now, and has four cost-controlled years left, so the Rays could see that as a long-term and cost-effective benefit along with a decent mid-tier prospect or two. I would be for this; just like you are, if the price is right. Can you give us a guess on what the trade package would be? Pedro Leon + ? If Singleton is in the deal, you might be able to do just a Leon type. He's also MLB ready right now. Arozarena is having a down year and Amed Rosario's light pop has declined even more this year, so they could be looking for an MLB-ready OF to try to inject some offense out there. Those two could do it. Zach Cole has some upside and might interest them, though he's probably at least a year off and maybe more. Rays are more set at 2B so I don't think Will Wagner would be as attractive as some other pieces. If the want an arm, Colton Gordon could be a servicable Bielak type they could call up immediately. It would stink to lose Michael Knorr but his stock is up given what he's done in his first look at AA hitters, he could be an attractive piece in one of these deals for a good but more mid-level guy like Yandy Diaz. I'd prefer to hold guys like him and Blubaugh who could be MLB arms for us within the next 12 months, given how many pitching injuries we've dealt with. Wouldn't be surprised to see someone we might not expect. Maybe Shawn Dubin. His ERA is deceptive; he's getting BAbip'd and has actually pitched well, has mid-90s stuff and good strikeout numbers against MLB hitters already, and has shown over the last week+ that he's not strictly a reliever. I bet he would bring more than some people would expect. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 12, 2024 14:42:07 GMT -6
And the fans continue to bitch at the idea of signing Trevor Bauer. If there are fans upset that we checked in on Bauer, they need to read the reports that said we're probably not getting him |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 13, 2024 8:14:26 GMT -6
For those interested, the Futures Game is today and A.J. Blubaugh, one of our close-to-MLB-ready arms, is on the AL squad. There are only 8 pitchers on the team so it's a safe bet he'll get in the game at some point. According to MLB.com he is our #6 prospect and the highest-ranked pitcher.
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