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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 20, 2024 13:30:52 GMT -6
4.56 xFIP, his strikeout rate is under 10 for the first time in nine years and his walk rate is a career worst 5.32. If you thought Pressly was stressful to watch this year...
Bryan King: 3.81 xFIP
Shawn Dubin: 4.20 xFIP
Neris would likely not be an upgrade, even over the lower-end of the bullpen. I'm also not sure how the rules work out; it's possible that if we picked him up and his option vested, we would be on the hook to bring him back next year for another nine million.
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Post by Saint on Aug 20, 2024 14:02:06 GMT -6
I'd rather give Whitley a chance in the bullpen before bringing back Neris. That WHIP is scary bad, and if the Cubs and their losing record didn't want him...why would we?
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 20, 2024 14:07:55 GMT -6
I'd rather give Whitley a chance in the bullpen before bringing back Neris. That WHIP is scary bad, and if the Cubs and their losing record didn't want him...why would we? I would too, and I’m not an advocate for Whitley. Neris had Montero regression written all over him. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 20, 2024 14:16:44 GMT -6
I'd rather give Whitley a chance in the bullpen before bringing back Neris. That WHIP is scary bad, and if the Cubs and their losing record didn't want him...why would we? I would too, and I’m not an advocate for Whitley. Neris had Montero regression written all over him. He did for sure. As did Stanek. Both solid relievers, but neither would be upgrades really. Whitley has been good as a reliever. Not amazing, but good... He's definitely worth a longer look before the postseason. I really believe Scott and/or Abreu need a short IL stint to rest before the postseason with their heavy usage. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 20, 2024 14:32:00 GMT -6
I'd rather give Whitley a chance in the bullpen before bringing back Neris. That WHIP is scary bad, and if the Cubs and their losing record didn't want him...why would we? This. Like wtf are they waiting for? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 20, 2024 14:36:59 GMT -6
I'd rather give Whitley a chance in the bullpen before bringing back Neris. That WHIP is scary bad, and if the Cubs and their losing record didn't want him...why would we? This. Like wtf are they waiting for? Someone on the Astros Refugee board keeps calling him White Lie. Therefore, they’re second guessing on promoting him. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 20, 2024 15:06:48 GMT -6
We just claimed Ben Gamel from the Mets and moved JP France to the 60-day IL. Gamel should be an immediate fixture in the OF, imo. He isn't great, but he's better than what we've gotten from Chas/Loperfido/Leon.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 20, 2024 15:06:57 GMT -6
I have slept on my elbow every night for nearly 60 years, and it hasn't once swelled up. At your age does anything swell besides your ankles? Huhuhu |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 20, 2024 15:12:46 GMT -6
At your age does anything swell besides your ankles? Huhuhu If he tells you to meet him behind the woodshed, to receive the monthly prediction trophy, just say no. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 20, 2024 15:27:45 GMT -6
Yuli has been looking really good in AAA.... I wonder what it would take to get him back and send Dezenzo down for some more seasoning. That could be a pretty solid platoon at 1B with Singleton plus some veteran depth. Our lack of position player depth is a concern.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 20, 2024 21:01:00 GMT -6
Yuli has been looking really good in AAA.... I wonder what it would take to get him back and send Dezenzo down for some more seasoning. That could be a pretty solid platoon at 1B with Singleton plus some veteran depth. Our lack of position player depth is a concern. Singleton is undefeated. They keep trying to find better options, but all they do is strike out. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 20, 2024 21:19:33 GMT -6
Reading Rome's article about the Astros OF situation today, and he points out what I mentioned last week, that Wilyer Abreu, who is having a possible Rookie of the Year season for Boston, was part of the trade for a few months of Cristian Vazquez. What I forgot about is that the Vazquez trade happened after Dusty blew up the trade for Wilson Contreras because he didn't want to give anyone playing time over Maldonado. That trade would have lost us Urquidy, who posted a 5.29 ERA in just 16 games last year and has missed all of this year. And Abreu would possibly be in LF for us right now.
When owners let themselves and managers make roster decisions, disaster often strikes.
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 21, 2024 1:56:35 GMT -6
since May 13
W/L 52-32 1st staff ERA 3.27 1st team OPS .741 11th
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 21, 2024 5:05:51 GMT -6
since May 13
W/L 52-32 1st staff ERA 3.27 1st team OPS .741 11th
What about since May 12th? |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 21, 2024 7:14:29 GMT -6
since May 13
W/L 52-32 1st staff ERA 3.27 1st team OPS .741 11th
What about since May 12th? I picked the 13th cause it's a hundred days ago |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 21, 2024 8:01:45 GMT -6
What about since May 12th? I picked the 13th cause it's a hundred days ago Sorry, if I thought you pulled an Ash or Todd, by skewing the numbers |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 21, 2024 8:59:46 GMT -6
I picked the 13th cause it's a hundred days ago Sorry, if I thought you pulled an Ash or Todd, by skewing the numbers Same shit, different season. Pitching carries the offense cause Blanco's this year's France |
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Post by Saint on Aug 21, 2024 9:51:52 GMT -6
I picked the 13th cause it's a hundred days ago Sorry, if I thought you pulled an Ash or Todd, by skewing the numbers Pfft. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 22, 2024 9:14:40 GMT -6
So we've supposedly signed Neris after all...
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Post by mihdennabios on Aug 22, 2024 9:24:57 GMT -6
So we've supposedly signed Neris after all... What the? Who's getting the boot then? Sean Martinez didn't deserve to get the boot for Verlander. he doesn't deserve the boot here either. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 22, 2024 9:37:44 GMT -6
So we've supposedly signed Neris after all... What the? Who's getting the boot then? Sean Martinez didn't deserve to get the boot for Verlander. he doesn't deserve the boot here either. I don't know. Martinez, Ort, Ferguson, King, or Dubin.... |
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Aug 22, 2024 9:46:48 GMT -6
What the? Who's getting the boot then? Sean Martinez didn't deserve to get the boot for Verlander. he doesn't deserve the boot here either. I don't know. Martinez, Ort, Ferguson, King, or Dubin.... Of those, I have no issues with Ferguson or Dubin getting the boot. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 22, 2024 9:54:27 GMT -6
I don't know. Martinez, Ort, Ferguson, King, or Dubin.... Of those, I have no issues with Ferguson or Dubin getting the boot. Those would be my preferences as well. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 22, 2024 10:39:20 GMT -6
So we've supposedly signed Neris after all...  |
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 22, 2024 10:42:02 GMT -6
Of those, I have no issues with Ferguson or Dubin getting the boot. Those would be my preferences as well. Ferguson: 3.68 xFIP, 10.93 K/9 Dubin: 4.36 xFIP, 9.36 K/9 Martinez: 4.93 xFIP, 6.08 K/9 |
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Post by Saint on Aug 22, 2024 10:47:03 GMT -6
Those would be my preferences as well. Ferguson: 3.68 xFIP, 10.93 K/9 Dubin: 4.36 xFIP, 9.36 K/9 Martinez: 4.93 xFIP, 6.08 K/9 Dubin's WHIP is concerning. Martinez doesn't strike out as many guys (although he was at a 9.1 K/9 before this year), but I have more faith in him as a long reliever. Same with Ferguson. Too many baserunners. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a major component of xFIP is based on their strikeout rates, correct? |
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Post by Saint on Aug 22, 2024 11:59:18 GMT -6
It's still not what I would have done (although at least it shouldn't really cost us anything), but, on the plus side, Neris has actually been very impressive since mid-June.
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Post by inaltuvewetrust on Aug 22, 2024 12:02:00 GMT -6
Apparently the Mariners are going to fire Servais today.
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 22, 2024 12:09:14 GMT -6
Ferguson: 3.68 xFIP, 10.93 K/9 Dubin: 4.36 xFIP, 9.36 K/9 Martinez: 4.93 xFIP, 6.08 K/9 Dubin's WHIP is concerning. Martinez doesn't strike out as many guys (although he was at a 9.1 K/9 before this year), but I have more faith in him as a long reliever. Same with Ferguson. Too many baserunners. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a major component of xFIP is based on their strikeout rates, correct? Yes. More info: library.fangraphs.com/pitching/xfip/Seth Martinez might feel like the better choice because his ERA (end results) have been better overall. But we have to remember that that does not mean he has actually pitched better. Ferguson has walked 1.2 batters more per nine innings than Martinez, but this translates to like one extra walk every nine outings when you think about it. Meanwhile he's striking out five more batters per nine outings. Ferguson has a BAbip almost .100 higher than Martinez too. He's simply pitched much better. His stuff is better. His track record is better. Dubin definitely needs to cut down the walks, but he's also getting BAbiped. WHIP doesn't take into account things like that, since it's just walks and hits. Martinez is going to have a much better WHIP because his BAbip is low right now. Martinez is also posting a notably higher strand rate than his career mark. Everything about him is indicating regression is due. It may not happen, but you make the decision (usually) on who is pitching better and who is likely to pitch better in the future. Ferguson is clearly the best. You could make an argument for Martinez over Dubin for non-statistical reasons, it's closer there. Ferguson has a BAbip near .400 in his very limited sample with us. It's noise. His stuff is good and he's good. Not exceptional but good. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 22, 2024 12:37:25 GMT -6
Dubin's WHIP is concerning. Martinez doesn't strike out as many guys (although he was at a 9.1 K/9 before this year), but I have more faith in him as a long reliever. Same with Ferguson. Too many baserunners. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a major component of xFIP is based on their strikeout rates, correct? Yes. More info: library.fangraphs.com/pitching/xfip/Seth Martinez might feel like the better choice because his ERA (end results) have been better overall. But we have to remember that that does not mean he has actually pitched better. Ferguson has walked 1.2 batters more per nine innings than Martinez, but this translates to like one extra walk every nine outings when you think about it. Meanwhile he's striking out five more batters per nine outings. Ferguson has a BAbip almost .100 higher than Martinez too. He's simply pitched much better. His stuff is better. His track record is better. Dubin definitely needs to cut down the walks, but he's also getting BAbiped. WHIP doesn't take into account things like that, since it's just walks and hits. Martinez is going to have a much better WHIP because his BAbip is low right now. Martinez is also posting a notably higher strand rate than his career mark. Everything about him is indicating regression is due. It may not happen, but you make the decision (usually) on who is pitching better and who is likely to pitch better in the future. Ferguson is clearly the best. You could make an argument for Martinez over Dubin for non-statistical reasons, it's closer there. Ferguson has a BAbip near .400 in his very limited sample with us. It's noise. His stuff is good and he's good. Not exceptional but good. But historically Ferguson has allowed a lot of baserunners as well. I just don't like relievers that put a lot of guys on base even if they have high K rates. The more runners you put on, the more likely they score on those "noise" fluke hits. That's my concern with Neris. I know that "pitching to contact" has mostly gone away from this era of baseball, but I still believe there is some value to that. Plus, I think Martinez' dominance against righthanders is very valuable. |
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