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Post by kyledriver1980 on Aug 28, 2024 18:23:36 GMT -6
After the game Chas was optioned to AAA. Likely to make room for Hayward.
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 28, 2024 20:15:34 GMT -6
I don't know about moving heaven and earth, but giving some of our overly-used relievers a break seems like a good idea, especially if we also have a chance to give a 26yo reliever a look. I don't think anybody expects him to be some elite reliever, but there is a lot to be interested in him about if he's finally healthy and has his head right. Yes. There's no one in our bullpen with better stuff than Whitley. His raw stuff is even better than Hader's. He might not realize that potential, and he might just get hurt again, but it's insane to have a talent like him, ready, performing, and not get whatever you can get out of it. I was a big fan of his for years. He let us down, year after year. I'm with Kermit on this one. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 29, 2024 6:32:18 GMT -6
Yes. There's no one in our bullpen with better stuff than Whitley. His raw stuff is even better than Hader's. He might not realize that potential, and he might just get hurt again, but it's insane to have a talent like him, ready, performing, and not get whatever you can get out of it. I was a big fan of his for years. He let us down, year after year. I'm with Kermit on this one. Eh, he was a struggling minor leaguer. It just takes some guys longer than others to mature and produce, plus he has lot of injury issues which isn't his fault. |
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Post by koolade2 on Aug 29, 2024 8:14:56 GMT -6
After the game Chas was optioned to AAA. Likely to make room for Hayward. I am surprised he lasted this long. Yes he was good defensively on the other hand you have to do your job on offense and the Astros have been struggling with that issue all Year. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 29, 2024 10:55:52 GMT -6
Yes. There's no one in our bullpen with better stuff than Whitley. His raw stuff is even better than Hader's. He might not realize that potential, and he might just get hurt again, but it's insane to have a talent like him, ready, performing, and not get whatever you can get out of it. I was a big fan of his for years. He let us down, year after year. I'm with Kermit on this one. I mean, this is admitting it's emotional, and not rational, right? Why is that a reason to not get some value out of him while you can? Are you so upset with him (unintentionally, unless we're saying it's his fault he got hurt a lot) letting down your expectations that you're willing to get no value out of him instead of some value? Is it more important to punish him or make sure he never gets an opportunity? It sounds like spite TBH. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 29, 2024 11:23:18 GMT -6
I looked it up and it's even worse than I thought.
Yordan Alvarez, home: 116 wRC+, .147 ISO, 8 HR, 20 RBI
Yordan Alvarez, road: 216 wRC+, .351 ISO, 22 HR, 51 RBI
He is literally twice the hitter (or more) on the road than he is at home. Barry Bonds on the road, and utterly falls apart inside MMP.
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Post by Saint on Aug 29, 2024 11:45:43 GMT -6
I looked it up and it's even worse than I thought. Yordan Alvarez, home: 116 wRC+, .147 ISO, 8 HR, 20 RBI Yordan Alvarez, road: 216 wRC+, .351 ISO, 22 HR, 51 RBI He is literally twice the hitter (or more) on the road than he is at home. Barry Bonds on the road, and utterly falls apart inside MMP. It's all in his head. There is nothing wrong with the batter's eye. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 29, 2024 11:47:32 GMT -6
I was a big fan of his for years. He let us down, year after year. I'm with Kermit on this one. I mean, this is admitting it's emotional, and not rational, right? Why is that a reason to not get some value out of him while you can? Are you so upset with him (unintentionally, unless we're saying it's his fault he got hurt a lot) letting down your expectations that you're willing to get no value out of him instead of some value? Is it more important to punish him or make sure he never gets an opportunity? It sounds like spite TBH. I think you have been in a spite a time or ten, right? He without spite spit the first spit |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 29, 2024 14:07:54 GMT -6
Alright, guys. None of us really care for Whitley, but you can set that aside if he can be valuable for the stretch run. This team isn’t exactly blowing away the Mariners in the division.
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 29, 2024 19:18:30 GMT -6
Alright, guys. None of us really care for Whitley, but you can set that aside if he can be valuable for the stretch run. This team isn’t exactly blowing away the Mariners in the division. Pitcher version of Singleton. He may get a spot on the roster, but it won't be anything to get excited about |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 29, 2024 21:09:17 GMT -6
Alright, guys. None of us really care for Whitley, but you can set that aside if he can be valuable for the stretch run. This team isn’t exactly blowing away the Mariners in the division. Pitcher version of Singleton. He may get a spot on the roster, but it won't be anything to get excited about Won’t know until it’s tried. They’ve basically got nothing to lose. |
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Aug 30, 2024 14:38:58 GMT -6
Tucker himself provided a timetable update. He said he might return to the lineup on the road in Cincinnati. However, he would definitely return by the next home-stand (Arizona on the 6th).
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2024 14:50:44 GMT -6
That's good news. It would be nice to get back to 5.5 deep in the lineup...
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 30, 2024 18:51:01 GMT -6
Tucker himself provided a timetable update. He said he might return to the lineup on the road in Cincinnati. However, he would definitely return by the next home-stand (Arizona on the 6th). It's crazy that they have to directly interrogate the players just to try to get some info. Why does this team play coy with injury news? I'm not aware of any other franchise that acts like this. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 2, 2024 11:58:32 GMT -6
Tucker himself provided a timetable update. He said he might return to the lineup on the road in Cincinnati. However, he would definitely return by the next home-stand (Arizona on the 6th). It's crazy that they have to directly interrogate the players just to try to get some info. Why does this team play coy with injury news? I'm not aware of any other franchise that acts like this. why do fans need to know medical specifics? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 2, 2024 12:27:22 GMT -6
It's crazy that they have to directly interrogate the players just to try to get some info. Why does this team play coy with injury news? I'm not aware of any other franchise that acts like this. why do fans need to know medical specifics? I think the fans are irked about the team lying about the severity of injuries. If a player breaks his leg, would it be normal to call him “day-to-day”? |
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Post by talshill on Sept 2, 2024 14:05:34 GMT -6
why do fans need to know medical specifics? I think the fans are irked about the team lying about the severity of injuries. If a player breaks his leg, would it be normal to call him “day-to-day”? Medical issues are personal up to the moment the individual chooses to share. Even if the person opts to share there is a federal law on the books which prohibits medical personnel from sharing. Being silent about a player’s health or misjudgment regarding when a player will return isn’t lying. Neither the Astros nor Tucker owes any fan (or anyone else for that matter) an explanation. So if you or anyone else is “irked” about not being given updates then your recourse is to call Washington and demand they overturn HIPAA. Good luck with that. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 2, 2024 15:12:06 GMT -6
I think the fans are irked about the team lying about the severity of injuries. If a player breaks his leg, would it be normal to call him “day-to-day”? Medical issues are personal up to the moment the individual chooses to share. Even if the person opts to share there is a federal law on the books which prohibits medical personnel from sharing. Being silent about a player’s health or misjudgment regarding when a player will return isn’t lying. Neither the Astros nor Tucker owes any fan (or anyone else for that matter) an explanation. So if you or anyone else is “irked” about not being given updates then your recourse is to call Washington and demand they overturn HIPAA. Good luck with that. Better to either not say anything or just say he’s gonna miss some time. I don’t get why say “shin contusion” when it’s a fracture. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Sept 2, 2024 22:35:00 GMT -6
I think the fans are irked about the team lying about the severity of injuries. If a player breaks his leg, would it be normal to call him “day-to-day”? Medical issues are personal up to the moment the individual chooses to share. Even if the person opts to share there is a federal law on the books which prohibits medical personnel from sharing. Being silent about a player’s health or misjudgment regarding when a player will return isn’t lying. Neither the Astros nor Tucker owes any fan (or anyone else for that matter) an explanation. So if you or anyone else is “irked” about not being given updates then your recourse is to call Washington and demand they overturn HIPAA. Good luck with that. Except they are seemingly the only team in professional sports that seems to play this game with injured players. If they're really doing it (suddenly, as this has only been happening for the last few years) because of some legal concerns, then just don't say anything. Is it less illegal to publicly say he has a "deep bone bruise" than to say he has a fractured bone? If it was really a HIPAA issue, then why would they say anything at all? Moreso than even that, what people care about isn't so much what the injury it is, but how much time they expect the player to miss. They could simply say "we're probably looking at a few months" and not mention his medical condition at all. If the player has told them that he as an individual does not want them to go public with the info, just say that; "Tucker has invoked legal rights of privacy. You'll have to ask him about it." But they don't do any of that. Either they knew it was fractured and lied about it (as recently as two days ago!) rather than just saying they have no comment or can't comment etc., or they're so incompetent they can't detect a broken bone on an x-ray for three months. I have a seriously hard time believing it's the latter. That leaves us with willful deception in all likelihood. Their own past actions, and the actions of other sports franchises, make it seem pretty clear that it's not about HIPAA either, but if it is, they shouldn't be saying anything, rather than lying. The "they don't owe you anything!" argument always seems odd to me. No one thinks they legally owe us information or some such. But that doesn't mean thousands of fans don't want it or don't see value in it, and at the end of the day, they are a business and the fans are their customer. They know people want it, their customers want it, and they refuse to give it. They are absolutely within their legal rights to do that. And to lie about it. And to insult their fans and trade everyone away and move the team to another city if they want. They can legally do all of those things. Which of those things are we allowed to complain about? Which of those things can we disagree with? Does it make us bad fans if we don't like being lied to? "They don't owe you anything!" sounds like classic fandom gatekeeping. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 3, 2024 9:55:36 GMT -6
I'm just glad he's almost back... Hopefully he'll be the spark that ignites one more WS championship.
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Post by mihdennabios on Sept 3, 2024 10:56:58 GMT -6
Wouldn't the whole mess with Tucker be avoidable if he just had a longer shin guard?
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Post by Saint on Sept 3, 2024 11:36:38 GMT -6
Wouldn't the whole mess with Tucker be avoidable if he just had a longer shin guard? Sure, but where do you draw the line? The knee also? Hip? |
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Post by talshill on Sept 3, 2024 12:32:32 GMT -6
Medical issues are personal up to the moment the individual chooses to share. Even if the person opts to share there is a federal law on the books which prohibits medical personnel from sharing. Being silent about a player’s health or misjudgment regarding when a player will return isn’t lying. Neither the Astros nor Tucker owes any fan (or anyone else for that matter) an explanation. So if you or anyone else is “irked” about not being given updates then your recourse is to call Washington and demand they overturn HIPAA. Good luck with that. Except they are seemingly the only team in professional sports that seems to play this game with injured players. If they're really doing it (suddenly, as this has only been happening for the last few years) because of some legal concerns, then just don't say anything. Is it less illegal to publicly say he has a "deep bone bruise" than to say he has a fractured bone? If it was really a HIPAA issue, then why would they say anything at all? Moreso than even that, what people care about isn't so much what the injury it is, but how much time they expect the player to miss. They could simply say "we're probably looking at a few months" and not mention his medical condition at all. If the player has told them that he as an individual does not want them to go public with the info, just say that; "Tucker has invoked legal rights of privacy. You'll have to ask him about it." But they don't do any of that. Either they knew it was fractured and lied about it (as recently as two days ago!) rather than just saying they have no comment or can't comment etc., or they're so incompetent they can't detect a broken bone on an x-ray for three months. I have a seriously hard time believing it's the latter. That leaves us with willful deception in all likelihood. Their own past actions, and the actions of other sports franchises, make it seem pretty clear that it's not about HIPAA either, but if it is, they shouldn't be saying anything, rather than lying. The "they don't owe you anything!" argument always seems odd to me. No one thinks they legally owe us information or some such. But that doesn't mean thousands of fans don't want it or don't see value in it, and at the end of the day, they are a business and the fans are their customer. They know people want it, their customers want it, and they refuse to give it. They are absolutely within their legal rights to do that. And to lie about it. And to insult their fans and trade everyone away and move the team to another city if they want. They can legally do all of those things. Which of those things are we allowed to complain about? Which of those things can we disagree with? Does it make us bad fans if we don't like being lied to? "They don't owe you anything!" sounds like classic fandom gatekeeping. As a fan I get it. You want to know when the player will return. So do I. But what we want doesn’t really matter. And it doesn’t matter if you find the argument “odd” or not. This is PRIVATE medical information protected by federal law. We don’t have any rights whatsoever to any of it. And the Astros can be fined up to $100K for releasing it without permission. I don’t know the exact procedure the Astros have in place but I imagine they’d have to have Tucker sign some sort of release before they can publish anything at all. And what are we going to do with the information anyway? What difference will it ultimately make to us if we knew the whole story? He’ll play when he’s ready. Do we know it was fractured? Are you certain they lied? If so, what lie did they tell? Sometimes deep bruises can cause a deep vein thrombosis (DVT) which requires anticoagulants in order to dissolve. And time. Though it’s not common for it to happen a DVT (clot) can break loose and travel through the bloodstream, eventually blocking vessels in the lung (a pulmonary embolus, or PE) or the brain causing a CVA (stroke). Either one of those can be life threatening and if not, certainly life altering. See J.R. Richard. Regardless of what he has or doesn’t have fans don’t have any right to know anything AT ALL. The Astros have some of the most competent physicians ON THE PLANET available for their players. They’re not stupid. They’ll release him to play when he’s ready. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Sept 3, 2024 19:02:29 GMT -6
Except they are seemingly the only team in professional sports that seems to play this game with injured players. If they're really doing it (suddenly, as this has only been happening for the last few years) because of some legal concerns, then just don't say anything. Is it less illegal to publicly say he has a "deep bone bruise" than to say he has a fractured bone? If it was really a HIPAA issue, then why would they say anything at all? Moreso than even that, what people care about isn't so much what the injury it is, but how much time they expect the player to miss. They could simply say "we're probably looking at a few months" and not mention his medical condition at all. If the player has told them that he as an individual does not want them to go public with the info, just say that; "Tucker has invoked legal rights of privacy. You'll have to ask him about it." But they don't do any of that. Either they knew it was fractured and lied about it (as recently as two days ago!) rather than just saying they have no comment or can't comment etc., or they're so incompetent they can't detect a broken bone on an x-ray for three months. I have a seriously hard time believing it's the latter. That leaves us with willful deception in all likelihood. Their own past actions, and the actions of other sports franchises, make it seem pretty clear that it's not about HIPAA either, but if it is, they shouldn't be saying anything, rather than lying. The "they don't owe you anything!" argument always seems odd to me. No one thinks they legally owe us information or some such. But that doesn't mean thousands of fans don't want it or don't see value in it, and at the end of the day, they are a business and the fans are their customer. They know people want it, their customers want it, and they refuse to give it. They are absolutely within their legal rights to do that. And to lie about it. And to insult their fans and trade everyone away and move the team to another city if they want. They can legally do all of those things. Which of those things are we allowed to complain about? Which of those things can we disagree with? Does it make us bad fans if we don't like being lied to? "They don't owe you anything!" sounds like classic fandom gatekeeping. As a fan I get it. You want to know when the player will return. So do I. But what we want doesn’t really matter. And it doesn’t matter if you find the argument “odd” or not. This is PRIVATE medical information protected by federal law. We don’t have any rights whatsoever to any of it. And the Astros can be fined up to $100K for releasing it without permission. I don’t know the exact procedure the Astros have in place but I imagine they’d have to have Tucker sign some sort of release before they can publish anything at all. And what are we going to do with the information anyway? What difference will it ultimately make to us if we knew the whole story? He’ll play when he’s ready. Do we know it was fractured? Are you certain they lied? If so, what lie did they tell? Sometimes deep bruises can cause a deep vein thrombosis (DVT) which requires anticoagulants in order to dissolve. And time. Though it’s not common for it to happen a DVT (clot) can break loose and travel through the bloodstream, eventually blocking vessels in the lung (a pulmonary embolus, or PE) or the brain causing a CVA (stroke). Either one of those can be life threatening and if not, certainly life altering. See J.R. Richard. Regardless of what he has or doesn’t have fans don’t have any right to know anything AT ALL. The Astros have some of the most competent physicians ON THE PLANET available for their players. They’re not stupid. They’ll release him to play when he’s ready. I feel like you're arguing against things that no one is saying. I don't know of anyone who thinks fans have some kind of legal or moral right to this information. But it has been common practice, seemingly for every team in MLB and other sports, to freely release this kind of information, often times within hours or even just minutes. Heck, Blum and TK are team employees; are they risking a $100,000 fine when they discuss on-air something that someone passed them in from the clubhouse about someone who left they game with an injury? But if they feel they have a legitimate concern, suddenly, just within the last few years, this team only, then just make that plain. Make a clear, public statement about their concerns and what their no-compromise policy will be going forward. It's the weird obfuscation that is annoying people more than anything. But by the way, according to this article, team physicians/trainers are not even bound by HIPAA in the first place: deadspin.com/do-hipaa-laws-apply-to-athletes-1844195531/Of course, they could willingly comply for their player's benefit. I think if they just came out with a statement saying "we're choosing to give our athletes the same level of privacy that normal citizens expect, so please direct any questions about their health to the players themselves." they could instantly nip it in the bud. But they don't. Reporters have even told stories about how they were asking a player about his injury and the trainer jumped in and interfered so that player couldn't speak about it with the media. No other team does this stuff. I don't know how closely you follow the beat reporters, but it's been a continuous theme for several seasons now. According to them it's literally unprecedented in the industry. And of course, they don't owe anything to us, any more than they owe us good, competitive play. They can trade everyone, slash payroll, and become a bottom-feeder like the A's if they want. But it's probably not smart because upsetting your customers is generally not a great business strategy. But they don't owe that to us, so should we also not complain if they start making roster moves we don't like? |
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Post by talshill on Sept 3, 2024 22:27:09 GMT -6
As a fan I get it. You want to know when the player will return. So do I. But what we want doesn’t really matter. And it doesn’t matter if you find the argument “odd” or not. This is PRIVATE medical information protected by federal law. We don’t have any rights whatsoever to any of it. And the Astros can be fined up to $100K for releasing it without permission. I don’t know the exact procedure the Astros have in place but I imagine they’d have to have Tucker sign some sort of release before they can publish anything at all. And what are we going to do with the information anyway? What difference will it ultimately make to us if we knew the whole story? He’ll play when he’s ready. Do we know it was fractured? Are you certain they lied? If so, what lie did they tell? Sometimes deep bruises can cause a deep vein thrombosis (DVT) which requires anticoagulants in order to dissolve. And time. Though it’s not common for it to happen a DVT (clot) can break loose and travel through the bloodstream, eventually blocking vessels in the lung (a pulmonary embolus, or PE) or the brain causing a CVA (stroke). Either one of those can be life threatening and if not, certainly life altering. See J.R. Richard. Regardless of what he has or doesn’t have fans don’t have any right to know anything AT ALL. The Astros have some of the most competent physicians ON THE PLANET available for their players. They’re not stupid. They’ll release him to play when he’s ready. I feel like you're arguing against things that no one is saying. I don't know of anyone who thinks fans have some kind of legal or moral right to this information. But it has been common practice, seemingly for every team in MLB and other sports, to freely release this kind of information, often times within hours or even just minutes. Heck, Blum and TK are team employees; are they risking a $100,000 fine when they discuss on-air something that someone passed them in from the clubhouse about someone who left they game with an injury? But if they feel they have a legitimate concern, suddenly, just within the last few years, this team only, then just make that plain. Make a clear, public statement about their concerns and what their no-compromise policy will be going forward. It's the weird obfuscation that is annoying people more than anything. But by the way, according to this article, team physicians/trainers are not even bound by HIPAA in the first place: deadspin.com/do-hipaa-laws-apply-to-athletes-1844195531/Of course, they could willingly comply for their player's benefit. I think if they just came out with a statement saying "we're choosing to give our athletes the same level of privacy that normal citizens expect, so please direct any questions about their health to the players themselves." they could instantly nip it in the bud. But they don't. Reporters have even told stories about how they were asking a player about his injury and the trainer jumped in and interfered so that player couldn't speak about it with the media. No other team does this stuff. I don't know how closely you follow the beat reporters, but it's been a continuous theme for several seasons now. According to them it's literally unprecedented in the industry. And of course, they don't owe anything to us, any more than they owe us good, competitive play. They can trade everyone, slash payroll, and become a bottom-feeder like the A's if they want. But it's probably not smart because upsetting your customers is generally not a great business strategy. But they don't owe that to us, so should we also not complain if they start making roster moves we don't like? No, Blum etc. are not violating anything by repeating what they were told. They’re not healthcare workers. The article states that a player’s contract agrees to HIPAA information release which is apparently standard in the sports industry (which I did not know but it makes sense). Side question: what would they do if a player refused to sign a waiver? Interesting question. I don’t follow any Astros beat reporters so I don’t know how draconian the Astros actions are concerning their players or what kind of gag order they may have in place. I also don’t know or don’t keep up with (and don’t care) how freely other teams release information. But according to the article you provided athletes do not forfeit their HIPAA rights simply by virtue of their status as athletes/public figures. Part of my job deals directly with HIPAA so I am very aware of how the law works concerning healthcare organizations and its employees. I’m less aware of how it extends to healthcare employees of organizations (who may be contractors and not actual employees) whose role isn’t primarily healthcare since I don’t deal with that. BUT I can promise you that an individual healthcare worker (and their employer) can be sued for dispensing information regardless of whether a release has been signed; I’ve seen it happen. If it were to go to trial the player can claim they were deceived/didn’t understand/the scope of the information released was too broad, etc. And even if the team is right and they hold a valid waiver they’re not going to trial because it’s cheaper to settle than to pay lawyers to defend it (usually; hospitals do this routinely with lawsuits). So, the team may wish to eliminate any hint of that chance. Or they may just be dickheads. I can’t say for sure. The thing I don’t understand in your argument is why it really matters anyway. I catch myself wanting to know when he’ll be back as well but as far as I can tell the information would only be actually useful to a sports bookie or a gambler of some ilk. I also don’t understand what lie the organization has told (maybe I missed it)? And you can complain about whatever you like as long and as loud as you like. Doesn’t bother me. What I don’t understand is you strike me as an intelligent person and I can’t fathom why you’re complaining about something that 1) you have no control over and 2) wouldn’t make a scintilla of difference if you did know. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Sept 4, 2024 22:09:09 GMT -6
I feel like you're arguing against things that no one is saying. I don't know of anyone who thinks fans have some kind of legal or moral right to this information. But it has been common practice, seemingly for every team in MLB and other sports, to freely release this kind of information, often times within hours or even just minutes. Heck, Blum and TK are team employees; are they risking a $100,000 fine when they discuss on-air something that someone passed them in from the clubhouse about someone who left they game with an injury? But if they feel they have a legitimate concern, suddenly, just within the last few years, this team only, then just make that plain. Make a clear, public statement about their concerns and what their no-compromise policy will be going forward. It's the weird obfuscation that is annoying people more than anything. But by the way, according to this article, team physicians/trainers are not even bound by HIPAA in the first place: deadspin.com/do-hipaa-laws-apply-to-athletes-1844195531/Of course, they could willingly comply for their player's benefit. I think if they just came out with a statement saying "we're choosing to give our athletes the same level of privacy that normal citizens expect, so please direct any questions about their health to the players themselves." they could instantly nip it in the bud. But they don't. Reporters have even told stories about how they were asking a player about his injury and the trainer jumped in and interfered so that player couldn't speak about it with the media. No other team does this stuff. I don't know how closely you follow the beat reporters, but it's been a continuous theme for several seasons now. According to them it's literally unprecedented in the industry. And of course, they don't owe anything to us, any more than they owe us good, competitive play. They can trade everyone, slash payroll, and become a bottom-feeder like the A's if they want. But it's probably not smart because upsetting your customers is generally not a great business strategy. But they don't owe that to us, so should we also not complain if they start making roster moves we don't like? No, Blum etc. are not violating anything by repeating what they were told. They’re not healthcare workers. The article states that a player’s contract agrees to HIPAA information release which is apparently standard in the sports industry (which I did not know but it makes sense). Side question: what would they do if a player refused to sign a waiver? Interesting question. I don’t follow any Astros beat reporters so I don’t know how draconian the Astros actions are concerning their players or what kind of gag order they may have in place. I also don’t know or don’t keep up with (and don’t care) how freely other teams release information. But according to the article you provided athletes do not forfeit their HIPAA rights simply by virtue of their status as athletes/public figures. Part of my job deals directly with HIPAA so I am very aware of how the law works concerning healthcare organizations and its employees. I’m less aware of how it extends to healthcare employees of organizations (who may be contractors and not actual employees) whose role isn’t primarily healthcare since I don’t deal with that. BUT I can promise you that an individual healthcare worker (and their employer) can be sued for dispensing information regardless of whether a release has been signed; I’ve seen it happen. If it were to go to trial the player can claim they were deceived/didn’t understand/the scope of the information released was too broad, etc. And even if the team is right and they hold a valid waiver they’re not going to trial because it’s cheaper to settle than to pay lawyers to defend it (usually; hospitals do this routinely with lawsuits). So, the team may wish to eliminate any hint of that chance. Or they may just be dickheads. I can’t say for sure. The thing I don’t understand in your argument is why it really matters anyway. I catch myself wanting to know when he’ll be back as well but as far as I can tell the information would only be actually useful to a sports bookie or a gambler of some ilk. I also don’t understand what lie the organization has told (maybe I missed it)? And you can complain about whatever you like as long and as loud as you like. Doesn’t bother me. What I don’t understand is you strike me as an intelligent person and I can’t fathom why you’re complaining about something that 1) you have no control over and 2) wouldn’t make a scintilla of difference if you did know. Seems there's both a lot we don't know about the specifics of the situation and how the law is or would be applied in this situation etc. so I won't keep rehashing all of that. I think the fourth paragraph is where the rubber meets the road. For me, I gravitated towards baseball shortly after the sabermetrics revolution. I'm the type that can't just be happy using a product; I take it apart to understand how it works. I can't just use a computer; I had to learn to build my own. I can't just drive a car; I have to learn how to maintain and rebuild it. Just how I'm wired. The understanding of what's going on with baseball brought by the statistical revolution is a key reason that I am a baseball fan and not a basketball or soccer fan. Understanding, following, discussing, analyzing etc. the goings-on of roster construction, team-building, injuries, drafts, prospects etc. is all a significant part of my baseball fandom. If I didn't have that, I don't know if just watching the games themselves alone would be enough to maintain my interest. I think there are a lot of people like that, but I'm fully aware that many aren't. You might not be. Totally cool. But to be clear again: "I can’t fathom why you’re complaining about something that 1) you have no control over and 2) wouldn’t make a scintilla of difference if you did know." So first of all, as I hope I've made clear, it would make a difference to me insofar as it is a part of how I enjoy baseball. Of course, knowing that would not affect when a player actually returns, but knowing the score of the game also doesn't affect the outcome of the game, but I'm sure you and most people would have a problem with them concealing the scores because you would not be able to get the same level of enjoyment from the games if they did that; the fact that you knowing or not knowing doesn't change what's happening on the field isn't the point. With that said, please also understand; I am ultimately not complaining about not having access to this information, as much as I would like to. If they came out and said clearly and finally "we are electing not to release any health-related information for our players due to observing their HIPAA rights. Please direct all inquiries to the players themselves" I might not like it, but that would be that. I would not keep complaining about it. My complaint is the false and misleading information. Either tell the truth, or stay silent. That's my complaint. If it's really a HIPAA thing (again, only Dusty, who is gone, has ever brought that up), then don't say anything. "He's on the IL, he'll be back when he's ready." We won't like it, but it's a clear and honest statement, and we can respect that. (I didn't like it that Luhnow had a strict, consistent policy to not talk about his trade discussions, but he was clear about that policy from the jump and always stuck to it, and I respected that.) So don't tell us he has a bruise, leading us to think he'll be back in a week or two and wait with eager expectation and then increasing bewilderment and confusion as the months roll by, with no further clarification or update. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 5, 2024 8:49:46 GMT -6
According to Dana Brown, they weren’t aware of the fracture until after the swelling subsided. Also, the fracture was on the opposite side of the point of impact, which made it all the more surprising for the team.
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 5, 2024 9:46:47 GMT -6
According to Dana Brown, they weren’t aware of the fracture until after the swelling subsided. Also, the fracture was on the opposite side of the point of impact, which made it all the more surprising for the team. I’m telling you there is a Xenomorph in his calf. He is transporting an illegal alien. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 5, 2024 9:52:05 GMT -6
BTW - Has anyone see Aliens Romulus yet? Is it worth seeing? I have heard different reviews from people that I know:l. One it was great, suspenseful. The other is was so unoriginal, if you have seen other ones. Used the same tag lines
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Post by Saint on Sept 5, 2024 9:58:06 GMT -6
BTW - Has anyone see Aliens Romulus yet? Is it worth seeing? I have heard different reviews from people that I know:l. One it was great, suspenseful. The other is was so unoriginal, if you have seen other ones. Used the same tag lines I mean how different/original can they get at this point? I'm waiting until it's streaming. |
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