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Post by marshall on Jul 11, 2018 14:14:39 GMT -6
I wish washing his mouth out with Ivory SOAP wasn't considered abuse, but you can think the political lunatics for this idiocy. "See boys, it's okay to disrespect authority" We live in an era when it is not only OK, but expected and encouraged by those with tenure who don't have to work for a living.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 11, 2018 14:16:39 GMT -6
I do not appreciate my children seeing that. That is not what I want them seeing. What a role model. Pathetic! i agree......he should be gone asap. I suspect this is one of those instances where, if it is determined that Giles was; in fact, directing his comment to AJ, Luhnow will talk to some of the established leaders of the team (Verlander, Altuve, McCann for sure) and get their input on what the guys in the clubhouse think of Giles and his effect on team unity. If Squatty doesn’t get a thumbs up from those guys, he will likely be dealt the first time Luhnow has the opportunity to deal him.
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marshall
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Post by marshall on Jul 11, 2018 14:18:07 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 14:18:36 GMT -6
Can you imagine what would have happened if a pitcher had sad “F’k you” to Billy Martin or Lou Pinella when one of those guys pulled them out of the game? You seemed convinced that comment was directed toward AJ. I do not. Other than just wanting a reason to bench Giles, why do you think his tirade was directed at anyone other than himself? Without getting into semantics of lip reading and command of the expletitive aspects of the English language, just who would Giles be directing the "F" to? Himself? I guess "F Me" just doesn't have the same panache as quick self punch to the face.
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 11, 2018 14:19:50 GMT -6
I wasn't aware Giles had options to be honest
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Post by olpapa on Jul 11, 2018 14:22:24 GMT -6
Rumors have it that the Orioles are looking for young ML ready pitching in their trade talks with other teams. Giles and Baltimore seems like a good match.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 14:24:10 GMT -6
I hope someone ties down, or hides all the water coolers in Fresno.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 11, 2018 14:24:23 GMT -6
Wonder if we can trade him?
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 14:24:56 GMT -6
Rumors have it that the Orioles are looking for young ML ready pitching in their trade talks with other teams. Giles and Baltimore seems like a good match. Giles and anybody seems like a good match. Throw in a couple of prospects and get Adam Jones.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 11, 2018 14:26:10 GMT -6
I wasn't aware Giles had options to be honest Holy cow! I just checked Roster Resource and Giles is not listed as being a Astros bullpen pitcher, but Perez is! My guess is that it was determined that Squatty’s comment was made to Hinch.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 14:26:46 GMT -6
I hope someone ties down, or hides all the water coolers in Fresno. I hope this means we have seen the last of this useless asshole.
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Post by bannedfan on Jul 11, 2018 14:27:42 GMT -6
Giles optioned to triple A Fresno. Perez called up.
Okay I see it was posted above.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 14:27:44 GMT -6
Giles can now squat in Fresno.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 11, 2018 14:27:55 GMT -6
I hope someone ties down, or hides all the water coolers in Fresno. I hope this means we have seen the last of this useless asshole. We need to trade him to the Rangers.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 11, 2018 14:28:45 GMT -6
I hope this means we have seen the last of this useless asshole. We need to trade him to the Rangers. Rangers or Orioles.
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 11, 2018 14:29:16 GMT -6
I hope someone ties down, or hides all the water coolers in Fresno. IKR .. the taco trucks will have to take out insurance
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 11, 2018 14:30:42 GMT -6
I wasn't aware Giles had options to be honest Holy cow! I just checked Roster Resource and Giles is not listed as being a Astros bullpen pitcher, but Perez is! My guess is that it was determined that Squatty’s comment was made to Hinch. yeah the transaction was reported about a half hour ago
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Post by bannedfan on Jul 11, 2018 14:31:35 GMT -6
I think there’s more to this then just a 4.99 ERA. I think his words coming off of the mound did him in.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 11, 2018 14:32:52 GMT -6
I wasn't aware Giles had options to be honest According to Roster Resource, Giles had all his options left.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 14:33:19 GMT -6
I hope this means we have seen the last of this useless asshole. We need to trade him to the Rangers. He would fit right in up there.
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 11, 2018 14:34:13 GMT -6
I wasn't aware Giles had options to be honest According to Roster Resource, Giles had all his options left. I'm sure if they traded him to Baltimore the owner would step in 5 mins later and say he didn't agree to it
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 14:34:45 GMT -6
I think there’s more to this then just a 4.99 ERA. I think his words coming off of the mound did him in. I think that is the main reason he's gone and I hope this spells the end of his time with the Astros. He never panned out as a closer. He tanked the end of last season and has never recovered.........good riddance.
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Post by bannedfan on Jul 11, 2018 14:38:11 GMT -6
I think there’s more to this then just a 4.99 ERA. I think his words coming off of the mound did him in. I think that is the main reason he's gone and I hope this spells the end of his time with the Astros. He never panned out as a closer. He tanked the end of last season and has never recovered.........good riddance. I agree it’s the main reason but his childish actions coming off of the mound didn’t help. Hopefully the Astros can trade him. Hopefully we get a legit closer from someone. I haven’t really paid attention to those available. Not 100% sold on Rondon.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 11, 2018 14:39:46 GMT -6
now there is some mid-week drama. He deserved it too...
Giles for Givens is a fair trade in my opinion. But maybe package him with some prospects for Britton would be better.
Anyway, I think Cionel is an upgrade oven Giles. Let's see what C Perez can do in the bigs.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 11, 2018 14:40:12 GMT -6
Holy cow! I just checked Roster Resource and Giles is not listed as being a Astros bullpen pitcher, but Perez is! My guess is that it was determined that Squatty’s comment was made to Hinch. yeah the transaction was reported about a half hour agoIf I understand the option rules correctly, since Giles debuted in MLB over 2 years ago, he would have had to be placed on revocable waivers for 48 hours and go unclaimed before he could be optioned to the minors. That tells me that the decision to option him was already under consideration before he made his comment last night because he would have had to be placed on waivers at least 48 hours before he was optioned today. Had he pitched lights-out last night and there been no issues, the team could have revoked the waivers and nobody would have ever known the difference. The meltdown last night was probably the deal breaker.
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Post by bannedfan on Jul 11, 2018 14:40:43 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 14:41:28 GMT -6
I think that is the main reason he's gone and I hope this spells the end of his time with the Astros. He never panned out as a closer. He tanked the end of last season and has never recovered.........good riddance. I agree it’s the main reason but his childish actions coming off of the mound didn’t help. Hopefully the Astros can trade him. Hopefully we get a legit closer from someone. I haven’t really paid attention to those available. Not 100% sold on Rondon. I think Rondon is more suited as a setup man,but, he is the guy unless we can get a closer. I wouldn't object to them using McHugh as a closer to see how he does. I thought Peacock had potential to close but that slider seems to have deserted him right now. Too many home runs allowed.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 11, 2018 14:42:11 GMT -6
Other than just wanting to be different, why do you think it was not directed at Hinch? You have to be blind to think that was directed at anyone other than Hinch. He is known for punching himself, how do you know it was not directed at Bad Giles.
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 11, 2018 14:43:03 GMT -6
the decision to option him was already under consideration before he made his comment last night because he would have had to be placed on waivers at least 48 hours before he was optioned today. most likely. He's had one save in 9 appearances in the last 25 days
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Post by Saint on Jul 11, 2018 14:43:29 GMT -6
Rumors have it that the Orioles are looking for young ML ready pitching in their trade talks with other teams. Giles and Baltimore seems like a good match. Giles and anybody seems like a good match. Throw in a couple of prospects and get Adam Jones. Dude, Jones is horrible. Please no.
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