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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 23, 2018 13:03:02 GMT -6
With Reddick being bad this year, and horrible in playoffs last year...might he be the one left out? Reddick won't be left off, and, if it were up to me, I'd leave Gattis off and put Marisnick on in his place. I like the idea of Jake in CF at the end of a tight playoff game. Marisnick is good in those situations, but how much does one value a late inning replacment over a hitter. It will be interesting what Luhnow does before the waiver deadline ends....and then what Luhnow/AJ do for the playoff rosters... |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 23, 2018 13:21:44 GMT -6
Reddick won't be left off, and, if it were up to me, I'd leave Gattis off and put Marisnick on in his place. I like the idea of Jake in CF at the end of a tight playoff game. I probably dislike Gattis more than most here, but how can you value Jake’s glove over having a bat like Gattis’s on the bench? If Gattis is not red hot with the bat at the time the playoff roster has to be set, and it came down to leaving off one of Gattis, Reddick, White or Marisnick, I’m thinking Gattis is the guy who is left out. If Gattis isn’t hitting...and I mean hitting consistently and for power..., he is dead weight. Not only that..., of those 4 he is the one least likely to be with the team next season. If you’re going to run the risk of creating a potential problem for team chemistry by offending a player by leaving him off the roster, better it be a guy who won’t be a part of the team going forward. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 23, 2018 14:00:58 GMT -6
Reddick won't be left off, and, if it were up to me, I'd leave Gattis off and put Marisnick on in his place. I like the idea of Jake in CF at the end of a tight playoff game. Marisnick is good in those situations, but how much does one value a late inning replacment over a hitter. It will be interesting what Luhnow does before the waiver deadline ends....and then what Luhnow/AJ do for the playoff rosters... if we get the Gattis we had for about a month in June, he would have to be on the roster. But, if we get what we have had since that streak ended, we can do without him. Right now, I'd take a healthy Jake over Gattis since White is showing he can be a good DH and he can play first base. Gattis has been only a DH and I can't see having him take up a roster spot because of it. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 23, 2018 14:05:34 GMT -6
Hot or not, Gattis has the smallest defensive value.
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Post by koolade2 on Aug 23, 2018 14:39:44 GMT -6
Reddick won't be left off, and, if it were up to me, I'd leave Gattis off and put Marisnick on in his place. I like the idea of Jake in CF at the end of a tight playoff game. I probably dislike Gattis more than most here, but how can you value Jake’s glove over having a bat like Gattis’s on the bench? Jake's Glove is more reliable than Gattis's bat. Unless he really is in a Hot streak for a Series. Just don't see that happening. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 23, 2018 14:45:25 GMT -6
I probably dislike Gattis more than most here, but how can you value Jake’s glove over having a bat like Gattis’s on the bench? Jake's Glove is more reliable than Gattis's bat. Unless he really is in a Hot streak for a Series. Just don't see that happening. If Jake is healthy......and he should be......I doubt if he is left off the roster. I can't see wasting a spot on a guy who is strictly a DH and is prone to striking out and hitting into DP's over the best defensive OF on the team and a guy who can get you a run with his speed. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 23, 2018 14:52:00 GMT -6
Over the past few years, Gattis has been hot 1/3 of the time and cold 2/3 of the time.
A betting man would have to bet that Gattis will be cold in October.
The DL situation on Sept. 30 will do much to determine who gets left off the postseason roster.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 23, 2018 15:02:23 GMT -6
Over the past few years, Gattis has been hot 1/3 of the time and cold 2/3 of the time. A betting man would have to bet that Gattis will be cold in October. The DL situation on Sept. 30 will do much to determine who gets left off the postseason roster. Another considation would be the chances of Gattis being "hot" against the quality of pitching that would be on a playoff team. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 23, 2018 15:24:50 GMT -6
I think we should look at a pitcher aswell. Supposedly Morton was holding his ribs yesterday during the game and we still dont know about McCullers...
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Post by Saint on Aug 23, 2018 15:30:25 GMT -6
Over the past few years, Gattis has been hot 1/3 of the time and cold 2/3 of the time. A betting man would have to bet that Gattis will be cold in October. The DL situation on Sept. 30 will do much to determine who gets left off the postseason roster. Another considation would be the chances of Gattis being "hot" against the quality of pitching that would be on a playoff team. Well he was pretty good last October for us. |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 23, 2018 16:23:55 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 23, 2018 16:33:12 GMT -6
Another considation would be the chances of Gattis being "hot" against the quality of pitching that would be on a playoff team. Well he was pretty good last October for us. That was last October and doesn't mean we can expect the same thing...but, I will take him over Stassi. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 17:02:24 GMT -6
Well he was pretty good last October for us. That was last October and doesn't mean we can expect the same thing...but, I will take him over Stassi. Gattis batted .300 in the World Series but we couldn't play him every game due to the no DH rule. That made him a liability. Against the Yankees he was 1 for 10 with .631 OPS.
for his career he is .254 avg with 1 HR and 5 RBIs in 23 games. That's an equivalent to having only 35 RBIs and 7 HRs in an 162 game season. That's bad
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Post by Saint on Aug 23, 2018 18:58:21 GMT -6
Well he was pretty good last October for us. That was last October and doesn't mean we can expect the same thing...but, I will take him over Stassi. I just meant because you brought up how hot would he be against good pitching in the postseason. Or I assumed that's what you meant. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 23, 2018 18:59:19 GMT -6
That was last October and doesn't mean we can expect the same thing...but, I will take him over Stassi. Gattis batted .300 in the World Series but we couldn't play him every game due to the no DH rule. That made him a liability. Against the Yankees he was 1 for 10 with .631 OPS.
for his career he is .254 avg with 1 HR and 5 RBIs in 23 games. That's an equivalent to having only 35 RBIs and 7 HRs in an 162 game season. That's bad
A lot of players have hot and cold postseason appearances. Even Altuve. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 23, 2018 19:13:30 GMT -6
That was last October and doesn't mean we can expect the same thing...but, I will take him over Stassi. I just meant because you brought up how hot would he be against good pitching in the postseason. Or I assumed that's what you meant. I should have worded that a different way. I intended it to mean that Gattis is not likely to have a hot streak against the kind of pitching we would see in the playoffs. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 19:17:36 GMT -6
Gattis batted .300 in the World Series but we couldn't play him every game due to the no DH rule. That made him a liability. Against the Yankees he was 1 for 10 with .631 OPS.
for his career he is .254 avg with 1 HR and 5 RBIs in 23 games. That's an equivalent to having only 35 RBIs and 7 HRs in an 162 game season. That's bad
A lot of players have hot and cold postseason appearances. Even Altuve. The difference is, defense doesn't take a night off. Marisnick would be more valuable in the post season than Gattis |
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 23, 2018 19:17:49 GMT -6
it would always be possible to carry Gattis in the ALDS and ALCS but then drop him from the WS (bc no DH for 3-4 of the games) if the Astros get that far.
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Post by Saint on Aug 23, 2018 19:32:27 GMT -6
I just meant because you brought up how hot would he be against good pitching in the postseason. Or I assumed that's what you meant. I should have worded that a different way. I intended it to mean that Gattis is not likely to have a hot streak against the kind of pitching we would see in the playoffs. But he hit well last postseason. To me, it all depends on how he is hitting when the regular season ends. Go with the hot hand. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 23, 2018 19:33:10 GMT -6
A lot of players have hot and cold postseason appearances. Even Altuve. The difference is, defense doesn't take a night off. Marisnick would be more valuable in the post season than Gattis A hot DH would be more valuable than a defensive replacement. We'll need to see if Gattis gets hot. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 19:35:48 GMT -6
I should have worded that a different way. I intended it to mean that Gattis is not likely to have a hot streak against the kind of pitching we would see in the playoffs. But he hit well last postseason. To me, it all depends on how he is hitting when the regular season ends. Go with the hot hand. 8 for 30 with 1 HR and 3 RBIs in 13 games is not hitting well. But he did draw some walks. Be it some were intentional to get the double play.
World series- 1 RBI and no runs scored in 6 games. He definitely should be left off that roster
Also- he is 1 for 14 in 5 games against the Yankees (spanning 2 post seasons). If we face them then he should be left off for that series too.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 23, 2018 21:11:29 GMT -6
Another considation would be the chances of Gattis being "hot" against the quality of pitching that would be on a playoff team. Well he was pretty good last October for us. He was okay in the ALDS and had the one homer in the ALCS, but I can’t remember anything else from him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 23, 2018 22:15:06 GMT -6
I should have worded that a different way. I intended it to mean that Gattis is not likely to have a hot streak against the kind of pitching we would see in the playoffs. But he hit well last postseason. To me, it all depends on how he is hitting when the regular season ends. Go with the hot hand. If he is hitting at that time, I would consider having him on the roster, but, not at the expense of not having a healthy Jake Marisnick. If Gattis is hitting, I would probably keep him and leave Stassi off the roster. Of course, a lot can happen before the end of September. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 22:48:29 GMT -6
I know someone here was high on Smoak but I can't get over his SO rate. About 30% of the time and has 124 already this year.
Our team leader is Marwin in Ks right now at 108 and Correa averages over 1 a game and both are under performing.
By contrast, Altuve 56 ks/106 gms, Bregman 68 ks/124 gms, Springer 95 ks/112 gms, even Gattis 87 ks/110 gms.
I know Smoak can get on base .361 OB% because of his 70 walks this year but White has a higher average, lower k% with a .387 OB%. We don't need Smoak taking ABs away from him right now, we need White taking ABs away from Gattis.
The player I want is McCutchen. Especially for the playoffs
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 23, 2018 23:10:58 GMT -6
Did McCutchen stop wearing that dumb hair hat, with the dreadlocked fake pelo?
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 24, 2018 2:01:35 GMT -6
I know someone here was high on Smoak but I can't get over his SO rate. About 30% of the time and has 124 already this year. Our team leader is Marwin in Ks right now at 108 and Correa averages over 1 a game and both are under performing. By contrast, Altuve 56 ks/106 gms, Bregman 68 ks/124 gms, Springer 95 ks/112 gms, even Gattis 87 ks/110 gms. I know Smoak can get on base .361 OB% because of his 70 walks this year but White has a higher average, lower k% with a .387 OB%. We don't need Smoak taking ABs away from him right now, we need White taking ABs away from Gattis. The player I want is McCutchen. Especially for the playoffs If White had been full-time DH instead of Gattis right from Opening Day, there would likely be at least a couple more W's in the W/L record. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 24, 2018 2:18:28 GMT -6
If Knebel is fixable and available to be sent to AAA, that would be a good add. Luhnow will want to really scrutinize the medical though.
Knebel is from Denton so I'm sure he'd love to work in Houston.
He was lights out last year up through June of this year. Then, like Devo, he fell apart...
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 24, 2018 4:11:06 GMT -6
If Knebel is fixable and available to be sent to AAA, that would be a good add. Luhnow will want to really scrutinize the medical though. Knebel is from Denton so I'm sure he'd love to work in Houston. He was lights out last year up through June of this year. Then, like Devo, he fell apart... Which player does he replace in the pen? Osauna Rondon Pressly McHugh Peacock Smith Devo* (if healthy and pitching well). Sipp Above is if the Astros are carrying 13 pitchers, and I see them only going with 12. Notice, Harris was not included. In only see Knebel if McCullers is not coming back for playoffs, and the Astros decide to employ A's or Totals strategy. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 24, 2018 6:56:47 GMT -6
If Knebel is fixable and available to be sent to AAA, that would be a good add. Luhnow will want to really scrutinize the medical though. Knebel is from Denton so I'm sure he'd love to work in Houston. He was lights out last year up through June of this year. Then, like Devo, he fell apart... Which player does he replace in the pen? Osauna Rondon Pressly McHugh Peacock Smith Devo* (if healthy and pitching well). Sipp Above is if the Astros are carrying 13 pitchers, and I see them only going with 12. Notice, Harris was not included. In only see Knebel if McCullers is not coming back for playoffs, and the Astros decide to employ A's or Totals strategy. If Devo gets his mojo back that really is a strong pen. |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 24, 2018 7:14:57 GMT -6
Did McCutchen stop wearing that dumb hair hat, with the dreadlocked fake pelo? |
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