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Post by bearbryant on Aug 24, 2018 7:21:34 GMT -6
We need a long-term fix in LF more than we need a fix there for the last two months of the season. Trading for McCutchen doesn't make a lotta sense on that front given
that he's an unrestricted free agent this winter. This reminds me of the Craig Kimbrel trade proposals in 2015. It makes more sense to go after him in free agency
On a more transcendental note I don't understand why everyone's so enthusiastic about rentals anyway when y'all were the same folks who ripped Drayton eight ways
from Sunday for wasting the farm on rentals
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 24, 2018 8:05:23 GMT -6
But McCutchen trade fixes it this year. He could help the Young OFs like Tucker gain his swing in the MLB.
Thay veteran leadership is almost a must when it comes to youngsters.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 24, 2018 8:07:31 GMT -6
Quit it.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 24, 2018 8:22:07 GMT -6
The difference is, defense doesn't take a night off. Marisnick would be more valuable in the post season than Gattis A hot DH would be more valuable than a defensive replacement. We'll need to see if Gattis gets hot. My point exactly. Then again, it gets a bit old waiting for his hot streaks. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 24, 2018 8:25:02 GMT -6
We need a long-term fix in LF more than we need a fix there for the last two months of the season. Trading for McCutchen doesn't make a lotta sense on that front given
that he's an unrestricted free agent this winter. This reminds me of the Craig Kimbrel trade proposals in 2015. It makes more sense to go after him in free agency
On a more transcendental note I don't understand why everyone's so enthusiastic about rentals anyway when y'all were the same folks who ripped Drayton eight ways
from Sunday for wasting the farm on rentals I was pro-Johnson and Beltrán back in the day and even today. A lot of people in hindsight were opposed to those moves. I think you’ve got to strike while the iron is hot. If they lost to the Dodgers last season, people might’ve complained about the Verlander move, which was also the right move to make regardless of outcome. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 24, 2018 8:28:26 GMT -6
Did McCutchen stop wearing that dumb hair hat, with the dreadlocked fake pelo? I thought only black chicks did that. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 24, 2018 8:44:41 GMT -6
What....it was an auto-correct or something... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 24, 2018 8:49:47 GMT -6
What....it was an auto-correct or something... Timmy don’t like dem girls wit dem herr hats. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 24, 2018 9:05:06 GMT -6
We need a long-term fix in LF more than we need a fix there for the last two months of the season. Trading for McCutchen doesn't make a lotta sense on that front given
that he's an unrestricted free agent this winter. This reminds me of the Craig Kimbrel trade proposals in 2015. It makes more sense to go after him in free agency
On a more transcendental note I don't understand why everyone's so enthusiastic about rentals anyway when y'all were the same folks who ripped Drayton eight ways
from Sunday for wasting the farm on rentals the difference on rentals for this year is that we have a great chance for a repeat of a World Championship. We lose Keuchel next year, we may lose Morton next year, we just about all agree that McCullers needs to be sent to the pen. So for us to have a shot next year for a championship we have to either give new contracts to guys at way over value or hope like hell that a bunch of young guys step up. This is the year for Chapionship #2 for the Astros and if we can increase our odds significantly by bringing on a couple of rentals like McCutchen and Smoak then I am all for it. We will not give up any of our top 10 and probably not any of our top 20 to get that done. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 24, 2018 9:55:49 GMT -6
What....it was an auto-correct or something... Don’t forget who you’re talking to, son. |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 24, 2018 10:30:09 GMT -6
We need a long-term fix in LF more than we need a fix there for the last two months of the season. Trading for McCutchen doesn't make a lotta sense on that front given
that he's an unrestricted free agent this winter. This reminds me of the Craig Kimbrel trade proposals in 2015. It makes more sense to go after him in free agency
On a more transcendental note I don't understand why everyone's so enthusiastic about rentals anyway when y'all were the same folks who ripped Drayton eight ways
from Sunday for wasting the farm on rentals the difference on rentals for this year is that we have a great chance for a repeat of a World Championship. We lose Keuchel next year, we may lose Morton next year, we just about all agree that McCullers needs to be sent to the pen. So for us to have a shot next year for a championship we have to either give new contracts to guys at way over value or hope like hell that a bunch of young guys step up. This is the year for Chapionship #2 for the Astros and if we can increase our odds significantly by bringing on a couple of rentals like McCutchen and Smoak then I am all for it. We will not give up any of our top 10 and probably not any of our top 20 to get that done. That’s the thing with McCutchen. It should not require one of our Top 20 prospects to get him. The fact that he passed through waivers without being claimed should be an indication of the value placed on him by all the teams. Not saying he doesn’t have value on the field and in the clubhouse. He does. It’s just that when teams take into consideration how much money he is owed for the rest of this season and the fact that he will be a FA at the end of this season, they are just not willing to give up a lot in order to get him for 2 months. |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 24, 2018 11:57:44 GMT -6
But McCutchen trade fixes it this year. He could help the Young OFs like Tucker gain his swing in the MLB. Thay veteran leadership is almost a must when it comes to youngsters. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 24, 2018 12:17:59 GMT -6
You dont think he would resign if the Astros asked him?
Short 1 yr deal?
We will have the same issue next year unless someone does something good.
Wright at this moment it's not looking good.
But unless tucker and speedy get there bats going you can almost count that out
You still have to look towards Reddicks contract will be around the corner do you bring him back? Me no unless he gets better with the bat.
So you need answers.
Those who want Smoak or an Infielder to be acquired you can also that role down aswell. As long as White is performing that's a dead issue
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 24, 2018 12:29:38 GMT -6
Plus u have to realize Springer is not healthy. He needs some time to heal.
You also have to notice it looks like Morton is nursing his ribs.
So again McCutchen and a Pitcher should help
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 24, 2018 12:35:21 GMT -6
Honestly I would shoot for Knebal and McCutchen and DFA Harris.
Let Mcutchen take LF for a week and McCutchen take LF let Springer spot start or DH and be good with it.
Springer has to get Healthy, before the playoffs. If we make it.
We dont have an Answer for LF other then Kemp dont get me wrong he is great and good. But he doesn't make Reddicks inconsistencys any better. 2020 will be a good year if Tucker comes around and pushes him out. But as of today Tucker needs so push his bat alittle better against real talent. Not that AAA crap
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 24, 2018 12:48:59 GMT -6
Lmao
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 24, 2018 13:50:00 GMT -6
He sits around and dreams up this crap and actually believes what he says.....Not one word has been said about anything being wrong with Morton's ribs. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 15:47:54 GMT -6
If Knebel is fixable and available to be sent to AAA, that would be a good add. Luhnow will want to really scrutinize the medical though. Knebel is from Denton so I'm sure he'd love to work in Houston. He was lights out last year up through June of this year. Then, like Devo, he fell apart... Which player does he replace in the pen? Osauna Rondon Pressly McHugh Peacock Smith Devo* (if healthy and pitching well). Sipp Above is if the Astros are carrying 13 pitchers, and I see them only going with 12. Notice, Harris was not included. In only see Knebel if McCullers is not coming back for playoffs, and the Astros decide to employ A's or Totals strategy. I am happy with our pen. McHugh, Sipp and Smith are on target. Add in Rondon and Osuna for the 8th and 9th and I don't see too many games where we lose with the lead. Devo is a hit or miss right now as come playoff time McCullers will likely be long relief with Peacock. I actually feel our whole team is rounded out now on the pitching side. One more bat for the OF would give us a clear advantage. Actually, I would trade away a bat we have now to get a new clipboard |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 24, 2018 16:07:52 GMT -6
“I actually feel our whole team is rounded out now on the pitching side.”
I agree. That said, I am hoping Luhnow calls up a few pitchers when the roster can be expanded September 1st and that Hinch uses them in order to give our SPs a break prior to the playoffs.
“One more bat for the OF would give us a clear advantage.”
I agree with this too, but I wouldn’t sell the farm for a 2 month rental.
“Actually, I would trade away a bat we have now to get a new clipboard.”
In spite of the fact that we could use one more bat, and in spite of the fact that I would not sell the farm for a 2 month rental, I would trade away a bat and mortgage the farm for a new clipboard.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 24, 2018 16:10:49 GMT -6
“I actually feel our whole team is rounded out now on the pitching side.” I agree. That said, I am hoping Luhnow calls up a few pitchers when the roster can be expanded September 1st and that Hinch uses them in order to give our SPs a break prior to the playoffs. “One more bat for the OF would give us a clear advantage.” I agree with this too, but I wouldn’t sell the farm for a 2 month rental. “Actually, I would trade away a bat we have now to get a new clipboard.” In spite of the fact that we could use one more bat, and in spite of the fact that I would not sell the farm for a 2 month rental, I would trade away a bat and mortgage the farm for a new clipboard. Hinch has that clipboard insured with Lloyds of London. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 16:14:59 GMT -6
“I actually feel our whole team is rounded out now on the pitching side.” I agree. That said, I am hoping Luhnow calls up a few pitchers when the roster can be expanded September 1st and that Hinch uses them in order to give our SPs a break prior to the playoffs. “One more bat for the OF would give us a clear advantage.” I agree with this too, but I wouldn’t sell the farm for a 2 month rental. “Actually, I would trade away a bat we have now to get a new clipboard.” In spite of the fact that we could use one more bat, and in spite of the fact that I would not sell the farm for a 2 month rental, I would trade away a bat and mortgage the farm for a new clipboard. Hinch has that clipboard insured with Lloyds of London. LOL.
I am just hoping that Will's name has been scratched off of it. For some reason his number always came up when we needed a shut down inning. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 24, 2018 16:25:42 GMT -6
Honestly I would shoot for Knebal and McCutchen and DFA Harris. Let Mcutchen take LF for a week and McCutchen take LF let Springer spot start or DH and be good with it. Springer has to get Healthy, before the playoffs. If we make it. We dont have an Answer for LF other then Kemp dont get me wrong he is great and good. But he doesn't make Reddicks inconsistencys any better. 2020 will be a good year if Tucker comes around and pushes him out. But as of today Tucker needs so push his bat alittle better against real talent. Not that AAA crap Knebel is actually not released, just demoted. |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 24, 2018 16:31:29 GMT -6
“I actually feel our whole team is rounded out now on the pitching side.” I agree. That said, I am hoping Luhnow calls up a few pitchers when the roster can be expanded September 1st and that Hinch uses them in order to give our SPs a break prior to the playoffs. “One more bat for the OF would give us a clear advantage.” I agree with this too, but I wouldn’t sell the farm for a 2 month rental. “Actually, I would trade away a bat we have now to get a new clipboard.” In spite of the fact that we could use one more bat, and in spite of the fact that I would not sell the farm for a 2 month rental, I would trade away a bat and mortgage the farm for a new clipboard. Hinch has that clipboard insured with Lloyds of London. If the premiums Lloyd’s charges for that insurance are based on the value of that clipboard, Lloyds should be paying AJ instead of AJ paying premiums to Lloyd’s for that insurance. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 24, 2018 16:58:25 GMT -6
Hinch has that clipboard insured with Lloyds of London. LOL.
I am just hoping that Will's name has been scratched off of it. For some reason his number always came up when we needed a shut down inning. The thing about players like Will Harris is, they'll demonstrably suck ass in game after game after game, putting up ugly results and playing ugly baseball. Then, the SABR guys will bust out with some nonsense like "But when he throws twice in a row with the wind blowing in from the east and has his chewing gum in his LEFT cheek, his WAR is Eleventy-NINE!!!" I'm not saying Saint does that, but Saint does that.  |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 24, 2018 17:27:21 GMT -6
LOL.
I am just hoping that Will's name has been scratched off of it. For some reason his number always came up when we needed a shut down inning. The thing about players like Will Harris is, they'll demonstrably suck ass in game after game after game, putting up ugly results and playing ugly baseball. Then, the SABR guys will bust out with some nonsense like "But when he throws twice in a row with the wind blowing in from the east and has his chewing gum in his LEFT cheek, his WAR is Eleventy-NINE!!!" I'm not saying Saint does that, but Saint does that. This calls for a Giles update. Since joining Toronto he has thrown 7.2 innings and allowed 9 hits and 8 earned runs..., but he is 4-4 in “save” opportunities. For the season at Houston and Toronto combined he has thrown 38.1 innings and allowed 45 hits and 25 earned runs...., but he is 16-16 in “save” opportunities. This is a good example of why I say the “save” stat is meaningless....as is the W stat to a large degree. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 24, 2018 19:14:39 GMT -6
LOL.
I am just hoping that Will's name has been scratched off of it. For some reason his number always came up when we needed a shut down inning. The thing about players like Will Harris is, they'll demonstrably suck ass in game after game after game, putting up ugly results and playing ugly baseball. Then, the SABR guys will bust out with some nonsense like "But when he throws twice in a row with the wind blowing in from the east and has his chewing gum in his LEFT cheek, his WAR is Eleventy-NINE!!!" I'm not saying Saint does that, but Saint does that. i don't care what Harris' WAR is or anything else that SABR comes up with.......he tanks and gets us beat more times than not in big games. If they put him on a playoff roster, it is a mistake. But, Hinch loves him and my guess is it's because of something on that damn clipboard. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 24, 2018 19:16:53 GMT -6
The thing about players like Will Harris is, they'll demonstrably suck ass in game after game after game, putting up ugly results and playing ugly baseball. Then, the SABR guys will bust out with some nonsense like "But when he throws twice in a row with the wind blowing in from the east and has his chewing gum in his LEFT cheek, his WAR is Eleventy-NINE!!!" I'm not saying Saint does that, but Saint does that. This calls for a Giles update. Since joining Toronto he has thrown 7.2 innings and allowed 9 hits and 8 earned runs..., but he is 4-4 in “save” opportunities. For the season at Houston and Toronto combined he has thrown 38.1 innings and allowed 45 hits and 25 earned runs...., but he is 16-16 in “save” opportunities. This is a good example of why I say the “save” stat is meaningless....as is the W stat to a large degree. Thanks for the update on the psycho we unloaded on Toronto.  From what I have seen of Osuna, we won that deal overwhelmingly. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 24, 2018 20:37:59 GMT -6
What....it was an auto-correct or something... Don’t forget who you’re talking to, son. Whatever, you're so two weeks ago...I am Fanastro's Sidekick now....he has got the power... |
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Post by Saint on Aug 24, 2018 20:51:45 GMT -6
Stats are stats. All they do is describe how players do in certain situations. You take it for what it's worth.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 24, 2018 21:23:53 GMT -6
Stats are stats. All they do is describe how players do in certain situations. You take it for what it's worth. Hey, you’re the first HOFer! Congrats. |
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From what I have seen of Osuna, we won that deal overwhelmingly.