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Post by Saint on Aug 24, 2018 21:28:08 GMT -6
Stats are stats. All they do is describe how players do in certain situations. You take it for what it's worth. Hey, you’re the first HOFer! Congrats. Thanks. Is there anything past that? Living Legend? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 24, 2018 21:30:37 GMT -6
There’s one or two more, iirc
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 26, 2018 8:45:34 GMT -6
Man I hope they dont set on there hands cuz of what there doing on this win streak.
Would rather have insurance then wait and watch injurys.
Go get Cutch
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Post by olpapa on Aug 26, 2018 10:42:46 GMT -6
From MLBTR:
“Blue Jays third baseman Josh Donaldson will start a rehab assignment at the Single-A level within the next 48 hours, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports. This is a key development because it could help pave the way for the Blue Jays to deal Donaldson this month, as he’ll be eligible to go on revocable trade waivers when he begins his rehab stint.”
Will he make it through the waiver process to the Astros? If he does, will Luhnow claim him and work out a trade? With White coming through and Marwin now playing like he did in 2017, I’m tempted to believe that Luhnow is done dealing for this year.
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2018 10:47:42 GMT -6
From MLBTR: “Blue Jays third baseman Josh Donaldson will start a rehab assignment at the Single-A level within the next 48 hours, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports. This is a key development because it could help pave the way for the Blue Jays to deal Donaldson this month, as he’ll be eligible to go on revocable trade waivers when he begins his rehab stint.” Will he make it through the waiver process to the Astros? If he does, will Luhnow claim him and work out a trade? With White coming through and Marwin now playing like he did in 2017, I’m tempted to believe that Luhnow is done dealing for this year. Still wouldn't hurt to add a bat for depth and matchup purposes. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 26, 2018 10:54:45 GMT -6
A bat or two would be what I would advocate, depending on price of course.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2018 11:10:45 GMT -6
I would not give up a very high level prospect for Donaldson. I think we would be better off getting a bat who could play the OF
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 26, 2018 11:56:18 GMT -6
The problem with getting a bat or two is that you have to take playing time from a bat or two to make room. Who sits for the new bats? How much impact will the new bats provide over what you already have?
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2018 12:14:28 GMT -6
The problem with getting a bat or two is that you have to take playing time from a bat or two to make room. Who sits for the new bats? How much impact will the new bats provide over what you already have? Septembe is a week away and rosters expand. Never hurts to add a vet or two to provide depth if we have an injury or if one of our current bats goes into slump. Problem is that Hinch won't bench guys who slump as is evidenced by keeping Correa in the third or fourth spot in the order while he does nothing. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 26, 2018 12:30:26 GMT -6
From MLBTR: “Blue Jays third baseman Josh Donaldson will start a rehab assignment at the Single-A level within the next 48 hours, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports. This is a key development because it could help pave the way for the Blue Jays to deal Donaldson this month, as he’ll be eligible to go on revocable trade waivers when he begins his rehab stint.” Will he make it through the waiver process to the Astros? If he does, will Luhnow claim him and work out a trade? With White coming through and Marwin now playing like he did in 2017, I’m tempted to believe that Luhnow is done dealing for this year. Still wouldn't hurt to add a bat for depth and matchup purposes. The question is if Donaldson is really healthy or if he and the Blue Jays have an understanding that if he helps them out, they’ll trade him to a contender. |
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Post by koolade2 on Aug 26, 2018 12:44:34 GMT -6
For me, there are still two players who aren't the big names so to speak that haven't shown that they deserve to be on the postseason squad in my Opinion.
No need to name them but that is what I think Luhnow needs to do. that would shake up the Main ones still asleep at the wheel so to speak.
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2018 13:58:50 GMT -6
Still wouldn't hurt to add a bat for depth and matchup purposes. The question is if Donaldson is really healthy or if he and the Blue Jays have an understanding that if he helps them out, they’ll trade him to a contender. I'd still prefer Cutcg. We need OF depth the most. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 26, 2018 15:09:39 GMT -6
The question is if Donaldson is really healthy or if he and the Blue Jays have an understanding that if he helps them out, they’ll trade him to a contender. I'd still prefer Cutcg. We need OF depth the most. Yeah, we have an unusual amount of depth on the infield. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 26, 2018 16:14:59 GMT -6
I would get Cutch and rotate Kemp in and out with the three spots to give them all time off.
Rotating
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 26, 2018 16:17:07 GMT -6
I would get Cutch and rotate Kemp in and out with the three spots to give them all time off. Rotating Not a bad idea. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 26, 2018 17:13:32 GMT -6
The problem with getting a bat or two is that you have to take playing time from a bat or two to make room. Who sits for the new bats? How much impact will the new bats provide over what you already have? McCutchen>Marisnick Smoak > Gurriel or Gattis |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 26, 2018 18:31:34 GMT -6
I would add Cutch over all the relatively prospect cost efficient exchange.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2018 19:46:19 GMT -6
The problem with getting a bat or two is that you have to take playing time from a bat or two to make room. Who sits for the new bats? How much impact will the new bats provide over what you already have? McCutchen>Marisnick Smoak > Gurriel or Gattis Gurriel>Smoak>Gattis McCutchen>Marisnick offensively Marisnick> than the whole bunch defensively |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 26, 2018 20:25:36 GMT -6
Just saw this headline at mlb.com:
“CUT 4
Carlos Gomez surprised a young Rays fan with both a bat and a hug
A true ambassador for the game.”
Ambassador of the game? SMH!
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 26, 2018 20:35:59 GMT -6
Just saw this headline at mlb.com: “CUT 4 Carlos Gomez surprised a young Rays fan with both a bat and a hug A true ambassador for the game.” Ambassador of the game? SMH! Clearly, it was a slow news day. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2018 21:19:09 GMT -6
Just saw this headline at mlb.com: “CUT 4 Carlos Gomez surprised a young Rays fan with both a bat and a hug A true ambassador for the game.” Ambassador of the game? SMH! Clearly, it was a slow news day. It was a dead news day. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 26, 2018 21:36:53 GMT -6
McCutchen>Marisnick Smoak > Gurriel or Gattis Gurriel>Smoak>Gattis McCutchen>Marisnick offensively Marisnick> than the whole bunch defensively This should be fun, let's take these one at a time and focus: Smoak is rated as a better first baseman than Gurriel. He has a higher ops, more home runs, fewer errors, higher range factor, hit into fewer double plays, and he costs less. How is Gurriel better. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 26, 2018 21:51:39 GMT -6
You dont need an infielder when u have Whitey..... dont need Smoak.
Need OF. McCutchen
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2018 23:20:07 GMT -6
Gurriel>Smoak>Gattis McCutchen>Marisnick offensively Marisnick> than the whole bunch defensively This should be fun, let's take these one at a time and focus: Smoak is rated as a better first baseman than Gurriel. He has a higher ops, more home runs, fewer errors, higher range factor, hit into fewer double plays, and he costs less. How is Gurriel better. Smoak strikes out more than Gurriel. Gurriel leads the league in hitting with RISP. I like Smoak,but, as a lefty DH |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 4:30:30 GMT -6
This should be fun, let's take these one at a time and focus: Smoak is rated as a better first baseman than Gurriel. He has a higher ops, more home runs, fewer errors, higher range factor, hit into fewer double plays, and he costs less. How is Gurriel better. Smoak strikes out more than Gurriel. Gurriel leads the league in hitting with RISP. I like Smoak,but, as a lefty DH Smoak-
-2 outs w runners in scoring position = .237 avg -late and close = .182 avg -Tie game = .181 avg -Innings 7-9 = .215 avg
-vs power pitchers = .208 avg -2ith 2 outs = .133 avg
He actually does almost all of his damage in the 3rd -5th innings. We have enough players on our team who can do that. What we need are guys who can lay off a tough pitch in the clutch and drive guys in when it matters most. Smoak doesn't seem to possess that gene.
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Post by olpapa on Aug 27, 2018 6:57:42 GMT -6
Just saw this headline at mlb.com: “CUT 4 Carlos Gomez surprised a young Rays fan with both a bat and a hug A true ambassador for the game.” Ambassador of the game? SMH! Clearly, it was a slow news day. Whoever wrote that piece for MLB.com obviously has not paid any attention to Gomez’s behavior on the field. The guy is a childish punk. Acts like a fool, is blatantly disrespectful to players on the opposing team, provokes on-field fights with the other team,....some “ambassador of the game,” he is. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 27, 2018 7:56:38 GMT -6
This should be fun, let's take these one at a time and focus: Smoak is rated as a better first baseman than Gurriel. He has a higher ops, more home runs, fewer errors, higher range factor, hit into fewer double plays, and he costs less. How is Gurriel better. Smoak strikes out more than Gurriel. Gurriel leads the league in hitting with RISP. I like Smoak,but, as a lefty DH Smoak has hit into 10 double plays and Gurriel has hit into 20. I also like Smoak as a left handed DH and 1st baseman |
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Post by m240 on Aug 27, 2018 7:59:31 GMT -6
Smoak strikes out more than Gurriel. Gurriel leads the league in hitting with RISP. I like Smoak,but, as a lefty DH Smoak-
-2 outs w runners in scoring position = .237 avg -late and close = .182 avg -Tie game = .181 avg -Innings 7-9 = .215 avg
-vs power pitchers = .208 avg -2ith 2 outs = .133 avg
He actually does almost all of his damage in the 3rd -5th innings. We have enough players on our team who can do that. What we need are guys who can lay off a tough pitch in the clutch and drive guys in when it matters most. Smoak doesn't seem to possess that gene.
Last time I checked they count the runs scored in the 1st - 6th innings the same as they do those sccored in the 7-9th innings. Alsoi Smoak has an 850+ ops versus right handed pitchers and Gurriel has a 675. Ops maybe we should keep Gurriel around to pinch hit in the ninth when we have a left handed reliever on the mound. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 27, 2018 7:59:33 GMT -6
Smoak strikes out more than Gurriel. Gurriel leads the league in hitting with RISP. I like Smoak,but, as a lefty DH Smoak has hit into 10 double plays and Gurriel has hit into 20. I also like Smoak as a left handed DH and 1st baseman See jayfree's post above.......I'll take Gurriel all day long over Smoak |
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Post by m240 on Aug 27, 2018 8:08:45 GMT -6
Smoak strikes out more than Gurriel. Gurriel leads the league in hitting with RISP. I like Smoak,but, as a lefty DH Smoak-
-2 outs w runners in scoring position = .237 avg -late and close = .182 avg -Tie game = .181 avg -Innings 7-9 = .215 avg
-vs power pitchers = .208 avg -2ith 2 outs = .133 avg
He actually does almost all of his damage in the 3rd -5th innings. We have enough players on our team who can do that. What we need are guys who can lay off a tough pitch in the clutch and drive guys in when it matters most. Smoak doesn't seem to possess that gene.
Also an issue with small sample size is that too much weight is given to too few situations examples Smoak - runners in scoring position 947 runeers on 1st and third 1.222 wearing white socks 867 |
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