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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 27, 2018 16:15:59 GMT -6
because white socks are only .867 compared to the numbers, it is has to be the socks. of course it is the socks Thanks Mars for picking up on the reference. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 27, 2018 16:16:53 GMT -6
Just trade for Cutch...gives you a solid veteran in a position of need....Giants shouldn't be asking for too much....
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 27, 2018 16:20:43 GMT -6
I'm not so sure OF is a position of need anymore. Marwin has a wRC+ of 164 since the break, and Kemp can fill-in for Springer in CF if he scuffles
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Post by m240 on Aug 27, 2018 16:35:58 GMT -6
Perhaps I should attempt to reframe this discussion to better illustrate what I see as a hole in our line up and a potential weakness. When we go to the World Series we will have 14 hitters on our 25 man roster. Currently we have only 13 guys for whom anyone can make a reasonable argument for keeping on a World Series roster. They are: Altuve Bregman White Correa Kemp Gattis Springer Gonzales Gurriel Reddick Maldonado Stassi Marisnick Now of those 13 guys there are some that have run hot and cold this year, Springer, Gattis, Gonzales, Kemp, and Correa. So let's just say it is the bottom of the ninth behing by a run and two outs who do you send up there Mr No Name #14 or perhaps Mr Room temperature Gattis, or if there is a runner on first and one out Mr Gurriel. Perhaps we should send Mr Reddick up there, after all he is famous for hitting (not) in the post season. What if someone gets hurt. My point that seems to keep getting misrepresented as a binary choice between Gurriel and Smoak is that it would be nice to have choices that give us a chance. It really does not make sense not to when the cost is minor league depth. Really why not two. Why not two. Smoak postseason stats: 11 games, only 10 ABs and ZERO hits. .000 avg, .000 OB%, .000 Slug, .000 OPS, 4 Ks
Small sample size but why was he never starting a game in 2015 and 2016 in the playoffs, and in 10 ABs over 11 games at least get on base once. This to me shows he was put into the game in late situation primarily as a PH and couldn't get the job done.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 27, 2018 16:36:50 GMT -6
I'm not so sure OF is a position of need anymore. Marwin has a wRC+ of 164 since the break, and Kemp can fill-in for Springer in CF if he scuffles I think it still will be...and I rather have a solid veteran....plus, one that is so well respected and great for the clubhouse...better to have him than not to... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 27, 2018 16:45:25 GMT -6
you left off M<Cann and he will be on the playoff roster.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 16:45:33 GMT -6
Smoak postseason stats: 11 games, only 10 ABs and ZERO hits. .000 avg, .000 OB%, .000 Slug, .000 OPS, 4 Ks
Small sample size but why was he never starting a game in 2015 and 2016 in the playoffs, and in 10 ABs over 11 games at least get on base once. This to me shows he was put into the game in late situation primarily as a PH and couldn't get the job done.
so who do you bring on as the 14th bat Tucker is gonna get called up in September and hit 40 HRs with 120 RBIs in 25 games to take that last spot. I can feel it! |
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Post by Saint on Aug 27, 2018 17:31:14 GMT -6
I'd take White over either right now. But I agree that we don't need another 1B unless it was a mindblowing one. You would take White over a healthy Jeff Bagwell.  False. Bagwell is a top-5 all-time 1B. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 27, 2018 17:32:26 GMT -6
I'm not so sure OF is a position of need anymore. Marwin has a wRC+ of 164 since the break, and Kemp can fill-in for Springer in CF if he scuffles Do you want to rely on that in the postseason? |
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 27, 2018 17:32:42 GMT -6
Should've got Votto when we had the chance When did we have a good chance of getting Votto? Hasn't he vetoed trades because he wants to stay with the Reds? i was joking |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 17:36:06 GMT -6
When did we have a good chance of getting Votto? Hasn't he vetoed trades because he wants to stay with the Reds? i was joking Well in that case, I can't believe we missed out on the Marisnick for Trout trade. All Houston had to do was throw in the clipboard and it was a done deal. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 27, 2018 18:00:26 GMT -6
Well in that case, I can't believe we missed out on the Marisnick for Trout trade. All Houston had to do was throw in the clipboard and it was a done deal. The clipboard is untouchable....I think players have heard AJ call it The Precious. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 27, 2018 18:06:11 GMT -6
you left off M<Cann and he will be on the playoff roster. If he is then Stassi is not |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 27, 2018 18:06:25 GMT -6
I'm not so sure OF is a position of need anymore. Marwin has a wRC+ of 164 since the break, and Kemp can fill-in for Springer in CF if he scuffles Do you want to rely on that in the postseason? |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 27, 2018 18:10:10 GMT -6
Seriously one thing I notice about every bat that gets traded here mid-season is they try to do too much, cause they feel this pressure to do so. And it winds up costing us
Sorry, but that's what this trade-possibility feels like to me
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 27, 2018 18:19:31 GMT -6
I'd take White over either right now. But I agree that we don't need another 1B unless it was a mindblowing one. Should've got Votto when we had the chance When was that ever a possibility? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 27, 2018 18:21:18 GMT -6
Seriously one thing I notice about every bat that gets traded here mid-season is they try to do too much, cause they feel this pressure to do so. And it winds up costing us
Sorry, but that's what this trade-possibility feels like to me Beltrán? |
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Post by Saint on Aug 27, 2018 18:35:42 GMT -6
Do you want to rely on that in the postseason? I think we the need OF depth. A real OFer. |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 27, 2018 18:37:13 GMT -6
The thing about Beltrán so awesome last year is eventually the pitchers started going to him for advice about release point and delivery, instead of Strom. Beltrán would've
made a great bench coach this season
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 27, 2018 18:38:37 GMT -6
Instead of Cutch an OK bat who's unfamiliar with AL pitchers. I can just see the complaining about wasted at-bats and why did we trade for him I think we the need OF depth. A real OFer. I like Kemp but he’s not a big threat offensively, and he’s a poor defender. Cutch is an upgrade for sure. |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 27, 2018 18:45:30 GMT -6
I think we the need OF depth. A real OFer. I like Kemp but he’s not a big threat offensively, and he’s a poor defender. Cutch is an upgrade for sure.
I do like the possibility of signing Cutch to a FA deal in the offseason though. Our OF depth problems are more treacherous after the season's over |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 28, 2018 18:55:12 GMT -6
Recent reports luhnow has claimed alot of players but teams are pulling them back.
Also 50 / 50 chance for an add they seem happy with what they have.
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Post by m240 on Aug 28, 2018 21:46:41 GMT -6
luhnow says no deals this year.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 28, 2018 22:00:06 GMT -6
luhnow says no deals this year. That was not what he said last night......he is still watching to see who is on waivers that could fall to us. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 29, 2018 5:13:13 GMT -6
50/50 chance watch for SP and OF
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 29, 2018 5:13:51 GMT -6
Donaldson watch aswell I would think
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 29, 2018 5:15:55 GMT -6
His first game back 1 for 2 rib. Single
Velocity of 110mph of the hit
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 29, 2018 6:51:57 GMT -6
luhnow says no deals this year. That was not what he said last night......he is still watching to see who is on waivers that could fall to us. I would take Cutch over Donaldson, especially now I find out Lydia doesn't like Josh...after her GM post yesterday, I am minding my Ps and Qs... |
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Post by m240 on Aug 29, 2018 6:52:35 GMT -6
luhnow says no deals this year. That was not what he said last night......he is still watching to see who is on waivers that could fall to us. that was my understanding of what he said. What he said exactly was that he did not see a need right now and that he did not see any player that would be an upgrade over what we already have. He went on to say that he would keep an eye out to see if someone that could help became available. Well it's the 29th, we already know who is going to become available and if he does not see it already what could easily be understood was no deals this year. Now if someone gets hurt I am sure that will change. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 29, 2018 6:57:42 GMT -6
well I just read something else that says that implies that maybe the prices are not right. So maybe we do make a deal if the prices drop. Hell who knows, he likes to keep things close to the chest.
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