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Post by olpapa on Jul 5, 2018 7:58:20 GMT -6
If Gurriel AND Reddick continue to improve and Altuve, Correa, and Springer come out of their recent slumps strong and stay healthy, I am less concerned about getting Abreu. But that's a lot of ifs. LF is still the weak spot. Tucker could be the answer... Tucker went 2-3 last night to snap a 0-16 streak of adversity. I think he gets the call soon..., maybe after he plays in the AAA All Star game on the 11th. I’m curious to see who gets sent down when they call him up. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 5, 2018 8:14:24 GMT -6
If Gurriel AND Reddick continue to improve and Altuve, Correa, and Springer come out of their recent slumps strong and stay healthy, I am less concerned about getting Abreu. But that's a lot of ifs. LF is still the weak spot. Tucker could be the answer... Tucker hopefully is the answer, but still want Abreu... |
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Post by Saint on Jul 5, 2018 8:24:54 GMT -6
If Gurriel AND Reddick continue to improve and Altuve, Correa, and Springer come out of their recent slumps strong and stay healthy, I am less concerned about getting Abreu. But that's a lot of ifs. LF is still the weak spot. Tucker could be the answer... Tucker went 2-3 last night to snap a 0-16 streak of adversity. I think he gets the call soon..., maybe after he plays in the AAA All Star game on the 11th. I’m curious to see who gets sent down when they call him up. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't Kemp. Not that he deserves it, but Marisnick has improved and has a track record as a 4th OFer. Plus Kemp would benefit more from full playing time in prep for next year. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 5, 2018 8:33:09 GMT -6
Tucker went 2-3 last night to snap a 0-16 streak of adversity. I think he gets the call soon..., maybe after he plays in the AAA All Star game on the 11th. I’m curious to see who gets sent down when they call him up. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't Kemp. Not that he deserves it, but Marisnick has improved and has a track record as a 4th OFer. Plus Kemp would benefit more from full playing time in prep for next year. I agree with you that Marisnick won’t be sent down in favor of Kemp. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kemp traded between now and August 1st. He is a second baseman. He can cover a lot of ground in the OF, but his arm is so weak. He doesn’t have the arm to play second or third. If he did, I would think he would be a candidate for the super utility role next season. He needs to play second base for some team. His trade value is not likely to be any higher later on. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 5, 2018 9:02:54 GMT -6
I'd be very surprised if it wasn't Kemp. Not that he deserves it, but Marisnick has improved and has a track record as a 4th OFer. Plus Kemp would benefit more from full playing time in prep for next year. I agree with you that Marisnick won’t be sent down in favor of Kemp. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kemp traded between now and August 1st. He is a second baseman. He can cover a lot of ground in the OF, but his arm is so weak. He doesn’t have the arm to play second or third. If he did, I would think he would be a candidate for the super utility role next season. He needs to play second base for some team. His trade value is not likely to be any higher later on. That's the problem with Kemp. I think he would be a very good all-around everyday 2B for someone. We just don't need that... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 5, 2018 11:09:29 GMT -6
I'd be very surprised if it wasn't Kemp. Not that he deserves it, but Marisnick has improved and has a track record as a 4th OFer. Plus Kemp would benefit more from full playing time in prep for next year. I agree with you that Marisnick won’t be sent down in favor of Kemp. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kemp traded between now and August 1st. He is a second baseman. He can cover a lot of ground in the OF, but his arm is so weak. He doesn’t have the arm to play second or third. If he did, I would think he would be a candidate for the super utility role next season. He needs to play second base for some team. His trade value is not likely to be any higher later on. I think Kemp would prefer being traded to being sent down again. He should help bring us back a good reliever or be used in a deal to get both a reliever and another bat. I would not be upset if Marwin was traded, but, Hinch loves him so that won't happen. He has really been a letdown this season. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 5, 2018 11:14:58 GMT -6
I agree with you that Marisnick won’t be sent down in favor of Kemp. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kemp traded between now and August 1st. He is a second baseman. He can cover a lot of ground in the OF, but his arm is so weak. He doesn’t have the arm to play second or third. If he did, I would think he would be a candidate for the super utility role next season. He needs to play second base for some team. His trade value is not likely to be any higher later on. I think Kemp would prefer being traded to being sent down again. He should help bring us back a good reliever or be used in a deal to get both a reliever and another bat. I would not be upset if Marwin was traded, but, Hinch loves him so that won't happen. He has really been a letdown this season. He's performing about to where he normally was if you take out his flukey last season. 88 OPS+ this year compared to 90 before last year. He's not a letdown unless you actually thought he would repeat from last year. He's an adequate replacement player at virtually every position except C for short periods of time or to relieve for days off. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 5, 2018 11:39:02 GMT -6
I'd be very surprised if it wasn't Kemp. Not that he deserves it, but Marisnick has improved and has a track record as a 4th OFer. Plus Kemp would benefit more from full playing time in prep for next year. I agree with you that Marisnick won’t be sent down in favor of Kemp. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kemp traded between now and August 1st. He is a second baseman. He can cover a lot of ground in the OF, but his arm is so weak. He doesn’t have the arm to play CORRECTION:shortstop or third. If he did, I would think he would be a candidate for the super utility role next season. He needs to play second base for some team. His trade value is not likely to be any higher later on. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 5, 2018 11:47:25 GMT -6
I think Kemp would prefer being traded to being sent down again. He should help bring us back a good reliever or be used in a deal to get both a reliever and another bat. I would not be upset if Marwin was traded, but, Hinch loves him so that won't happen. He has really been a letdown this season. He's performing about to where he normally was if you take out his flukey last season. 88 OPS+ this year compared to 90 before last year. He's not a letdown unless you actually thought he would repeat from last year. He's an adequate replacement player at virtually every position except C for short periods of time or to relieve for days off. Your right. Marwin’s numbers this year are in line with his numbers prior to last season. Unfortunately for him, he is hitting free agency one year too late. Marwin...., like Marisnick..., is an adequate replacement player, but he...again like Marisnick..., is not good enough to be starting for a championship caliber team. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 5, 2018 11:50:22 GMT -6
Has Britton been that impressive? He better be damn good for a rental. I agree with those who think Votto is strange for not wanting to leave Cincinnati to play for a good team. I thought Astros fans were keen on a player remaining loyal to their team. Was the admiration of Biggio and Bagwell fake, then? |
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Post by Saint on Jul 5, 2018 11:55:00 GMT -6
I agree with those who think Votto is strange for not wanting to leave Cincinnati to play for a good team. I thought Astros fans were keen on a player remaining loyal to their team. Was the admiration of Biggio and Bagwell fake, then? I think the difference is that they would have been open to trades if it benefited both parties. Votto doesn't seem to care if it benefits anybody. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 5, 2018 13:29:09 GMT -6
I agree with those who think Votto is strange for not wanting to leave Cincinnati to play for a good team. I thought Astros fans were keen on a player remaining loyal to their team. Was the admiration of Biggio and Bagwell fake, then? No, I don't think admiration for those two were fake. We did win some division titles and make a WS appearance while we had Biggio and Bagwell. The Reds haven't smelled the playoffs while Votto has been there and won't in the foreseeable future. |
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Post by m240 on Jul 5, 2018 14:21:22 GMT -6
there is pressure to get an upgrade but as time goes on it looks more and more like we need to shake up the offense a little by getting the lineup a little deeper than it is now. Reddick has finally started to get it going, which helps immensely. I go back and forth on whether or not I’d rather have another major reliever or hitter here. The fact is that the Giles you saw yesterday could be the “punch his face” Giles tomorrow. You just never know. José Abreu could be the professional style of hitter we hoped we had in Beltrán last season. I have not prioritized these 6 guys by contract situation, organizational affiliation, age, ect but the 6 guys on my radar right now are Castellanos, Rosario, Dickerson, Nimmo, Beltran, Nimmo, and of course Abreu. All those guys would add depth and should be trade bait for their team. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 5, 2018 14:28:04 GMT -6
Reddick has finally started to get it going, which helps immensely. I go back and forth on whether or not I’d rather have another major reliever or hitter here. The fact is that the Giles you saw yesterday could be the “punch his face” Giles tomorrow. You just never know. José Abreu could be the professional style of hitter we hoped we had in Beltrán last season. I have not prioritized these 6 guys by contract situation, organizational affiliation, age, ect but the 6 guys on my radar right now are Castellanos, Rosario, Dickerson, Nimmo, Beltran, Nimmo, and of course Abreu. All those guys would add depth and should be trade bait for their team. Dickerson is an intriguing idea if he can maintain the level of defense he is currently at. You'd probably have to give up seeing Tucker get any real playing time this year though, I would think. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 5, 2018 16:30:17 GMT -6
I have not prioritized these 6 guys by contract situation, organizational affiliation, age, ect but the 6 guys on my radar right now are Castellanos, Rosario, Dickerson, Nimmo, Beltran, Nimmo, and of course Abreu. All those guys would add depth and should be trade bait for their team. Dickerson is an intriguing idea if he can maintain the level of defense he is currently at. You'd probably have to give up seeing Tucker get any real playing time this year though, I would think. Is Dickerson a good defender? I thought he was an OBP and power guy. His OBP is alright but great for the Astros’ loaded lineup. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 6, 2018 13:07:12 GMT -6
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 6, 2018 13:10:47 GMT -6
Who did we get for Hoyt?
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 6, 2018 13:11:42 GMT -6
Tommy DeJuneas, not a major move. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 13:14:45 GMT -6
On paper, he looks pretty promising. But of course, you could say that about a 1000 other second year players.
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Post by paastrosfan on Jul 6, 2018 13:26:46 GMT -6
Speaking of Votto not ever being in the playoffs with the Reds, they made it three times during his tenure there.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 6, 2018 13:47:13 GMT -6
Speaking of Votto not ever being in the playoffs with the Reds, they made it three times during his tenure there.  You get a cookie for taking the time to find something I was wrong about. Congratulations......now pat yourself on the back. You have once again proven that you think you have to be right about something that nobody but you gives a damn about. Glad you took time away from those all-stars in Florida just to research this so you could be right about something. I know it's been a challenge. We still don't need to trade good, young prospects for Votto. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 6, 2018 14:28:01 GMT -6
Astros.com also saying that Jon Kemmer was traded to the Twins; it doesn't mention a corresponding player coming back to the Astros so maybe this was for cash or a PTBNL.
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Post by paastrosfan on Jul 6, 2018 14:40:12 GMT -6
Speaking of Votto not ever being in the playoffs with the Reds, they made it three times during his tenure there. You get a cookie for taking the time to find something I was wrong about. Congratulations......now pat yourself on the back. You have once again proven that you think you have to be right about something that nobody but you gives a damn about. Glad you took time away from those all-stars in Florida just to research this so you could be right about something. I know it's been a challenge. We still don't need to trade good, young prospects for Votto. You are childs play crotch, better to know some information before you post. Weather is great down here, maybe should should leave your four by eight room and get some sun on that bald head. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 6, 2018 14:46:53 GMT -6
article on mlb.com (if I recall correctly) was saying the Astros *might* be looking at getting a catcher at the deadline. I guess that decision may hinge on McCann's prognosis.
Some names getting tossed around are: Ramos (the guy from the Rays who walloped our boys a few days ago), Cervelli, Salvy Perez, and of course Realmuto. Whereas the price for Realmuto would be sky-high, Ramos and Cervelli probably not so much, and they are both having excellent seasons. Now, Cervelli was recently on the concussion DL so maybe there is some reason for concern there.
If McCann ends up not recovering well enough to play this season, I'd be fine with Stassi/Stubbs, but maybe Luhnow isn't so sold on Stubbs or Fedo for the postseason.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 6, 2018 14:59:39 GMT -6
This opens a spot on the 40-man roster. Hoyt really didn’t have a future with Houston. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Luhnow making another move or two like this, if the opportunity presents itself, in order to clear roster space for younger prospects who may be lost to the Rule 5 draft, if they aren’t protected. Boshers, Gustave and Rodgers come to mind. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 6, 2018 15:08:12 GMT -6
Speaking of Votto not ever being in the playoffs with the Reds, they made it three times during his tenure there.
Then there was another where Utley cried Chapman hit him with a fastball when he didn't, but the ump gave Utley 1st base anyway cause he's a little bitch |
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Post by Saint on Jul 6, 2018 15:18:08 GMT -6
article on mlb.com (if I recall correctly) was saying the Astros *might* be looking at getting a catcher at the deadline. I guess that decision may hinge on McCann's prognosis. Some names getting tossed around are: Ramos (the guy from the Rays who walloped our boys a few days ago), Cervelli, Salvy Perez, and of course Realmuto. Whereas the price for Realmuto would be sky-high, Ramos and Cervelli probably not so much, and they are both having excellent seasons. Now, Cervelli was recently on the concussion DL so maybe there is some reason for concern there. If McCann ends up not recovering well enough to play this season, I'd be fine with Stassi/Stubbs, but maybe Luhnow isn't so sold on Stubbs or Fedo for the postseason. I think Ramos would be a great grab. Depth at C even if McCann comes back and he is a power bat that could DH or (I assume) cover 1B in a pinch, if needed. His best seasons were when he played 100+ games and he is easily on pace to do that again. We're in a position to be a little greedy, and, while Stassi has been effective, there are certainly no guarantees at C for us this year. Let McCann coach up Stassi some from the dugout and bring in Ramos to help finish out the year. Stassi and Stubbs can take over next year when they're both free agents. This actually makes more sense than Abreu considering Gurriel is heating up and Gattis is effective. Cervelli and Perez....no. Perez is horrible this year, and Cervelli (while not bad) is going to be hella expensive for a mediocre catcher next year. ($11.5 million) |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 6, 2018 15:23:23 GMT -6
Pérez might actually be slower than Abreu.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 6, 2018 15:33:28 GMT -6
You get a cookie for taking the time to find something I was wrong about. Congratulations......now pat yourself on the back. You have once again proven that you think you have to be right about something that nobody but you gives a damn about. Glad you took time away from those all-stars in Florida just to research this so you could be right about something. I know it's been a challenge. We still don't need to trade good, young prospects for Votto. You are childs play crotch, better to know some information before you post. Weather is great down here, maybe should should leave your four by eight room and get some sun on that bald head. Everyone here knows that the only reason you made that post was because you wasted time researching Votto just so you may be able to prove me wrong about the Reds not being a playoff team while he was there. to me, it wasn't important enough for me to go check on it.....I didn't remember the Reds making the playoffs while he was there. I am so pleased that you were able to feed your fragile ego.  You are as phony as they come. You are no more in Florida working with All Stars than I am in New York starring in a Broadway production. But, if you want to imagine that you are down there fulfilling one your childish fantasies have a nice time. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jul 6, 2018 15:38:12 GMT -6
You are childs play crotch, better to know some information before you post. Weather is great down here, maybe should should leave your four by eight room and get some sun on that bald head. Everyone here knows that the only reason you made that post was because you wasted time researching Votto just so you may be able to prove me wrong about the Reds not being a playoff team while he was there. to me, it wasn't important enough for me to go check on it.....I didn't remember the Reds making the playoffs while he was there. I am so pleased that you were able to feed your fragile ego. You are as phony as they come. You are no more in Florida working with All Stars than I am in New York starring in a Broadway production. But, if you want to imagine that you are down there fulfilling one your childish fantasies have a nice time. Grow up old man, it is fun talking smack with a Baseball retard. |
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You are as phony as they come. You are no more in Florida working with All Stars than I am in New York starring in a Broadway production.