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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 9, 2018 4:01:07 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 9, 2018 4:02:27 GMT -6
I don't think it is farfetched for the Astros to spot start Gattis at catcher.
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Post by marshall on Jul 9, 2018 4:55:52 GMT -6
I don't think it is farfetched for the Astros to spot start Gattis at catcher. Unless Feo or Stassi is injured and they haven't had a chance to call up a backup, I just don't see it. Perhaps give him a few innings in a blow out where he's pinch hit for Fedo just to practice his catching skills in the event of an emergency. |
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Post by marshall on Jul 9, 2018 5:02:28 GMT -6
I don't think it is farfetched for the Astros to spot start Gattis at catcher. Unless Feo or Stassi is injured and they haven't had a chance to call up a backup, I just don't see it. Perhaps give him a few innings in a blow out where he's pinch hit for Fedo just to practice his catching skills in the event of an emergency. Wow! I just had a thought. What if we get down to the end of the season and we just wanted to have a little fun in a meaningless game. We could activate Hinch as a player manager and give him a few innings behind the plate. There has to be some historical significance in both a player/manager and years between appearances. |
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Post by marshall on Jul 9, 2018 6:29:20 GMT -6
I just thought I might do a PROS and CONS on the two most likely Catcher Trades. Wilson Ramos RENTAL ONLY He's a Free Agent after the season. Could be both PRO And CON. Cost Balance of an $8.5M contract with performance bonuses. $3,830, 247 on 7/9 falling $52,469.14/game played. PRO if players sent are rule 5 eligible or on 40 man and blocked opening up a roster spot. Would not affect the arrival of Stubbs.
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J T Realmuto Control though 2020 Cost $2.9M base with 2 years of Arbitration left. Would block Stubbs, but be another key player with well above replacement level production. Miami could use multiple players who are currently blocked. Mutually beneficial. I suspect Stubbs would be part of a package.
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Post by marshall on Jul 9, 2018 6:37:27 GMT -6
So we want a shut down closer.
Who is out there who has been consistently good over each of the last three years?
I can't think of any. There are lots of streaky good relievers, but consistently reliable ones?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 7:37:39 GMT -6
So we want a shut down closer. Who is out there who has been consistently good over each of the last three years? I can't think of any. There are lots of streaky good relievers, but consistently reliable ones? I personally would like to add Brad Hand to our team for the near and long term. I understand he has hit somewhat of a rough patch lately, but he is the best available (IMO). And during the norm, is lights out. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 9, 2018 7:52:11 GMT -6
So we want a shut down closer. Who is out there who has been consistently good over each of the last three years? I can't think of any. There are lots of streaky good relievers, but consistently reliable ones? I don’t think we need a shutdown reliever, but we could use a very good reliever to strengthen the bullpen. For all intents and purposes, I think it’s going to take a while for McCann to contribute, if at all. Ramos would likely be cheaper and a better target even though Realmuto is a better player. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 9, 2018 7:58:55 GMT -6
I have to agree that adding Abreu if Gattis is going to be used as a backup catcher makes sense. Fed would not be here if McCann was not on the DL. Using Gattis as a part-time catcher and adding Abreu would add a power hitter to the lineup. I know of Abreu's rep in the clubhouse and it is great. I would guess Kemp and a couple of others would go in a deal for him..They didn't bring Tucker up to showcase him for a trade.....they brought hin up to take over left field. I think they are losing patience with Marwin and they should. His attitude has gone south. I agree, Tucker is up here for keeps, unless he completely flounders....Kemp's value would be greater for another team than it is for the Astros, so starts are auditions, but putting him in CF, with his highly suspect arm, does not add up. I am surprised the Astros are not letting Altuve DH, to give Kemp reps at 2b, his natural position. If the Astros do acquire Abreu, means Gattis is going to playing catcher, while McCann is out... I agree. It would seem that if the Astros are marketing Kemp, they would play him at 2B some and let Altuve DH. One could argue that Gattis should not sit so that Altuve can DH, but if he is going to sit while another player DH’s, I would much rather it be Altuve than Springer.... and AJ has sat Gattis in favor of Springer recently. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 9, 2018 12:32:28 GMT -6
Abreu is really heading south with the bat lately. Batting .175 and slugging .289 over his last 30 games....batting .136 and slugging .227 over his last 7 games. He is said to be a very good mentor for the younger guys on the team, but I don’t know how much the Astros need that after having had the experience of winning the WS last year. He is strictly a first baseman, but we already have Yuli, Marwin and White to cover first base. The only reason I can see for going after him is for his bat...and his bat is not producing right now. He would add no value on defense. He still has a year of arbitration left so if we traded for him we would be looking at taking on his salary for the remainder of this year and all of next season. He is already making $13 million this year so he is going to be expensive next season. Seems like it would make more sense to just keep Gattis around. If the team wants to add a bat, Wilson Ramos would seem to make more sense than Abreu. Ramos is a good hitter and his bat has been heading north over the last month. He is also a good catcher and would provide the team some quality insurance should McCann not recover well from surgery. He is a FA after this season so the team would not be taking on any salary beyond this season and it is more likely that we could obtain him by trading blocked prospects and/or prospects other than our top 5 or so, I would think. Yeah Abreu is not looking like what we need at this point. I'm on board with Ramos. One thing that would make trading for Abreu make more sense is if Correa’s back problem is something the team has reason to believe will linger on for the remainder of the season and possibly affect his availability for the playoffs. In that case, trading for Abreu to replace Correa’s bat could be a good move. He could play first base with Yuli moving to third and Bregman to short. Abreu has posted much better numbers after the all star break the last couple years. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 9, 2018 12:39:29 GMT -6
This from MLBTR: “The three weeks leading up to the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline will serve as a left field audition for Astros prospect Kyle Tucker, FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal says. If the just-promoted Tucker doesn’t look ready to contribute on a regular basis, the Astros will “likely” look to acquire a veteran stopgap, according to Rosenthal, who points out that left field has not been an area of strength for their offense this season. Tucker, 21, made his Astros debut Saturday and went 1 for 4 with three strikeouts and a walk.” I’ve been thinking about this. If Tucker completely falls on his face between now and July 31, who are some veteran outfielders the team might go after who would be strictly a rental this year. What do you think of Adam Jones? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 9, 2018 13:28:02 GMT -6
This from MLBTR: “The three weeks leading up to the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline will serve as a left field audition for Astros prospect Kyle Tucker, FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal says. If the just-promoted Tucker doesn’t look ready to contribute on a regular basis, the Astros will “likely” look to acquire a veteran stopgap, according to Rosenthal, who points out that left field has not been an area of strength for their offense this season. Tucker, 21, made his Astros debut Saturday and went 1 for 4 with three strikeouts and a walk.” I’ve been thinking about this. If Tucker completely falls on his face between now and July 31, who are some veteran outfielders the team might go after who would be strictly a rental this year. What do you think of Adam Jones? Adam Jones would be at the top of the list. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 9, 2018 13:29:16 GMT -6
This from MLBTR: “The three weeks leading up to the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline will serve as a left field audition for Astros prospect Kyle Tucker, FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal says. If the just-promoted Tucker doesn’t look ready to contribute on a regular basis, the Astros will “likely” look to acquire a veteran stopgap, according to Rosenthal, who points out that left field has not been an area of strength for their offense this season. Tucker, 21, made his Astros debut Saturday and went 1 for 4 with three strikeouts and a walk.” I’ve been thinking about this. If Tucker completely falls on his face between now and July 31, who are some veteran outfielders the team might go after who would be strictly a rental this year. What do you think of Adam Jones? Choo? |
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Post by m240 on Jul 9, 2018 13:38:40 GMT -6
I’ve been thinking about this. If Tucker completely falls on his face between now and July 31, who are some veteran outfielders the team might go after who would be strictly a rental this year. What do you think of Adam Jones? Choo? downside to Choo is 20 million a year for 19 and 20. we will not need him in 20 for sure and 19 probably. Got to be a rental as I see it. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 9, 2018 13:40:43 GMT -6
downside to Choo is 20 million a year for 19 and 20. we will not need him in 20 for sure and 19 probably. Got to be a rental as I see it. I screwed that one up. I didn't realize what his contract was. |
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Post by marshall on Jul 9, 2018 15:58:02 GMT -6
downside to Choo is 20 million a year for 19 and 20. we will not need him in 20 for sure and 19 probably. Got to be a rental as I see it. I screwed that one up. I didn't realize what his contract was. We could always demand $8M/year to offset his contract... |
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Post by Saint on Jul 9, 2018 16:38:16 GMT -6
I'd love to get Choo if they ate some of his contract.
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Post by m240 on Jul 9, 2018 17:50:59 GMT -6
I'd love to get Choo if they ate some of his contract. I like the idea of a rental. We already have Kemp, Tucker, Alvarez, and Straw in AAA or better as well as Springer, Reddick, and uh...... Marisnick to pick from for 2019. |
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Post by m240 on Jul 9, 2018 17:52:04 GMT -6
The idea of a catcher for the other bat makes more sense to me than anything else other than a high end rental like Beltre.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 9, 2018 19:33:58 GMT -6
I'd love to get Choo if they ate some of his contract. Just remembered we can't get Choo. "Somebody" around here does not like Asian players. |
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Post by marshall on Jul 9, 2018 19:38:54 GMT -6
I'd love to get Choo if they ate some of his contract. Just remembered we can't get Choo. "Somebody" around here does not like Asian players. But we have Choo Choo already. No problem! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 19:46:42 GMT -6
Just remembered we can't get Choo. "Somebody" around here does not like Asian players. But we have Choo Choo already. No problem! Marshall as GM..   |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 9, 2018 19:48:55 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 9, 2018 22:15:34 GMT -6
I'd love to get Choo if they ate some of his contract. Just remembered we can't get Choo. "Somebody" around here does not like Asian players. We don't need a 20 million dollar Asian who can't run. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 10, 2018 7:39:04 GMT -6
Just remembered we can't get Choo. "Somebody" around here does not like Asian players. We don't need a 20 million dollar Asian who can't run. But we could certainly use a LFer that can hit and get on base, regardless of race or speed. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 10, 2018 7:46:42 GMT -6
We don't need a 20 million dollar Asian who can't run. But we could certainly use a LFer that can hit and get on base, regardless of race or speed. Race has nothing to do with it.......we don't need a 20 million dollar left-fielder who can't run...period. Shin Soo Choo would be of no use other than as a left-handed DH and I would not pay him just for that. Go get an outfielder who can hit. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 10, 2018 7:51:38 GMT -6
We don't need a 20 million dollar Asian who can't run. But we could certainly use a LFer that can hit and get on base, regardless of race or speed. Amen. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 10, 2018 7:53:08 GMT -6
But we could certainly use a LFer that can hit and get on base, regardless of race or speed. Race has nothing to do with it.......we don't need a 20 million dollar left-fielder who can't run...period. Shin Soo Choo would be of no use other than as a left-handed DH and I would not pay him just for that. Go get an outfielder who can hit. His price tag sucks, but he’s patient, works counts, and gets on base. I don’t know about you, but seeing short unproductive at-bats is boring to me. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 10, 2018 7:54:11 GMT -6
Why do you think he can't run? He is 3-3 in steal attempts. Second of all, since when did LFers have to be fast?
He's on pace for 30 HR 173 Hits a .399 OBP and .903 OPS. He would arguably be our most productive hitter, immediately.
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Post by Saint on Jul 10, 2018 7:57:34 GMT -6
I’ve been thinking about this. If Tucker completely falls on his face between now and July 31, who are some veteran outfielders the team might go after who would be strictly a rental this year. What do you think of Adam Jones? Adam Jones would be at the top of the list. So you don't want a LFer that can't run, but you want a LFer that is barely league-average offensively and is considerably below-average defensively, and has less SBs than Choo (who is too slow for you).  |
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