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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 14, 2018 12:01:00 GMT -6
i had rather have Realmuto for the long haul......just concerned about the price to get him. Just mixing threads, I'm thinking that a trade for Ramos makes Stubbs the keeper, but a trade for Realmuto would make him expendable and keep Quitano for backup. If they acquire Realmuto then Stubbs is probably a key centerpiece in the trade. |
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Post by m240 on Jul 14, 2018 12:34:45 GMT -6
Just mixing threads, I'm thinking that a trade for Ramos makes Stubbs the keeper, but a trade for Realmuto would make him expendable and keep Quitano for backup. If they acquire Realmuto then Stubbs is probably a key centerpiece in the trade. I do not think that many folks have bought into Stassi's stats for the year so far so if a trade were to develop for Realmuto I feel certain that Stubbs would be a piece of their return. Given the year he is having it would probably take Alvarez, Stubbs and Armenteros to get him. Kind of steep. |
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Post by m240 on Jul 14, 2018 12:35:53 GMT -6
And then if you do that who do you have left to go get a good reliever with.
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Post by Saint on Jul 14, 2018 13:03:54 GMT -6
Realmuto isn't going to be worth the trade pieces. Get Ramos for cheaper. Use Stubbs and Stassi next year.
We need another good reliever. (And they should he kicking the tires on Merrifield too.)
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 14, 2018 13:24:17 GMT -6
Realmuto isn't going to be worth the trade pieces. Get Ramos for cheaper. Use Stubbs and Stassi next year. We need another good reliever. (And they should he kicking the tires on Merrifield too.) Young, cheap, and controllable applies to both Merrifield and Realmuto. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 14, 2018 16:22:14 GMT -6
Realmuto isn't going to be worth the trade pieces. Get Ramos for cheaper. Use Stubbs and Stassi next year. We need another good reliever. (And they should he kicking the tires on Merrifield too.) Young, cheap, and controllable applies to both Merrifield and Realmuto. Merrifield has more use for us beyond next year and should be cheaper. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 14, 2018 17:39:39 GMT -6
This just posted at MLBTR:
“Wilson Ramos Has Hamstring Injury, Expects To Hit DL
By Kyle Downing | July 14, 2018 at 6:16pm CDT
Rays catcher Wilson Ramos has a hamstring injury, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reports via Twitter. The 30-year-old backstop will sit out the All-Star game, and said he expects he’ll end up on the disabled list.”
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Post by koolade2 on Jul 14, 2018 17:40:47 GMT -6
I see the Pirates closer Vazquez has 21 Saves and they aren't going anywhere this year. Any chance he comes onto the trade market.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 14, 2018 17:46:20 GMT -6
I see the Pirates closer Vazquez has 21 Saves and they aren't going anywhere this year. Any chance he comes onto the trade market. He's thought to be available. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 14, 2018 18:02:16 GMT -6
I see the Pirates closer Vazquez has 21 Saves and they aren't going anywhere this year. Any chance he comes onto the trade market. He's thought to be available. Would be great if the Astros could pick up Vazquez (Rivero) from Pittsburgh. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 14, 2018 18:07:46 GMT -6
This from the Fangraphs article on Giles that Doug posted the link to today:
“It’s certainly possible that the relationship with Hinch is strained. With two years of club control remaining after this one, he could be an appealing asset to trade come July 31, at least if the Astros can get him pointed back in the right direction.”
I’m thinking the relationship is strained. Wouldn’t think any manager should have to put up with Giles. I don’t think we will see Squatty in an Astros uniform again.
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 14, 2018 18:41:18 GMT -6
So what position do we upgrade if we can't deal for a catcher. Castellanos would be an upgrade in LF based on the season he's having. But that would move Tucker or
Reddick to a part-time role for the stretch run. Choo would be an upgrade at DH, but dealing with TEX isn't realistic we'd do that
I can't think of another bat that's having a good season. Someone that would make an impact imo
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Post by olpapa on Jul 14, 2018 19:37:54 GMT -6
Realmuto isn't going to be worth the trade pieces. Get Ramos for cheaper. Use Stubbs and Stassi next year. We need another good reliever. (And they should he kicking the tires on Merrifield too.) I think Luhnow will get another good reliever in the next couple weeks. Britton or Iglesias maybe. Vazquez (Rivero) would be great, if Luhnow could pry him loose from the Pirates. I agree with you on Merrifield. The guy has played 1B, 2B, CF and RF this year. He has played LF and a few innings at 3B in the past. He’s batting .353 (41-116) over his last 30 games and .500 (14-28) over his last 7 games. Another thing I like about him is that he has hit well this year against Seattle, NYY, Cleveland and Boston. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 14, 2018 19:55:31 GMT -6
What's with the name in parentheses?
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 14, 2018 19:59:23 GMT -6
What's with the name in parentheses? He used to be Felipe Rivero. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 14, 2018 20:02:37 GMT -6
What's with the name in parentheses? He used to be Felipe Rivero. What'd he do, get married? |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 14, 2018 20:15:14 GMT -6
He used to be Felipe Rivero. What'd he do, get married? LOL! The guy changed his name from Rivero to Vazquez after last season. Not sure why. Some of us on the board were wishing Luhnow could get Felipe Rivero from the Pirates last season. The guy had 21 “saves” and posted a 1.67 ERA in 73 games, 75.1 IP, as Felipe Rivero. I just put the Rivero in parenthesis to indicate that Vazquez is the same guy. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 14, 2018 20:56:21 GMT -6
He used to be Felipe Rivero. What'd he do, get married? Faulty papers. |
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Post by m240 on Jul 14, 2018 21:49:29 GMT -6
What'd he do, get married? Faulty papers. Not every country has the children take the fathers name. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 14, 2018 22:29:26 GMT -6
If they acquire Realmuto then Stubbs is probably a key centerpiece in the trade. I do not think that many folks have bought into Stassi's stats for the year so far so if a trade were to develop for Realmuto I feel certain that Stubbs would be a piece of their return. Given the year he is having it would probably take Alvarez, Stubbs and Armenteros to get him. Kind of steep. I would not trade all of those guys for Realmuto. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 14, 2018 22:30:58 GMT -6
This from the Fangraphs article on Giles that Doug posted the link to today: “It’s certainly possible that the relationship with Hinch is strained. With two years of club control remaining after this one, he could be an appealing asset to trade come July 31, at least if the Astros can get him pointed back in the right direction.” I’m thinking the relationship is strained. Wouldn’t think any manager should have to put up with Giles. I don’t think we will see Squatty in an Astros uniform again. I would trade Giles in a heartbeat. Somebody will make a decent offer for him. |
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Post by marshall on Jul 14, 2018 23:48:04 GMT -6
I do not think that many folks have bought into Stassi's stats for the year so far so if a trade were to develop for Realmuto I feel certain that Stubbs would be a piece of their return. Given the year he is having it would probably take Alvarez, Stubbs and Armenteros to get him. Kind of steep. I would not trade all of those guys for Realmuto. While the price is steep, I think I would go for it since it's the rest of this season and 2 more years (2020) of club control. That does put more pressure on Tucker to succeed since he would be blocking Alvarez. Stubbs is not a star in the making, but a solid piece of a tandem. Armenteros is a good prospect, but there are 6 RHP rated higher. They won't all make it.
But I'm valuing him as a 115 OPS+ catcher and not a 150 OPS+ catcher.
But fortunately, Luhnow seems to have a handle on value and has not shown a propensity to waste Astros talent or overvalue incoming talent.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 15, 2018 0:07:10 GMT -6
What'd he do, get married? Faulty papers. At least it wasnt' some type of Bruce Jenner situation |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 15, 2018 8:03:34 GMT -6
Not every country has the children take the fathers name. True. It can be very confusing. My maternal grandfather immigrated from Denmark. In doing some genealogy research on my grandfather I discovered that until the late 1800’s in Denmark, the way a boy’s last name was determined at birth was by taking the first name of the baby boy’s father and adding “son” or “sen” to the end. For example: If Johan Nielsen fathered a son, the son’s last name became Johansen (or Johanson)...derived from Johan’s son. In this example Johan Nielsen would have been the son of some guy whose first name was Neil. Sometime around 1900 a law was passed in Denmark outlawing this naming practice. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 15, 2018 8:15:31 GMT -6
Not every country has the children take the fathers name. True. It can be very confusing. My maternal grandfather immigrated from Denmark. In doing some genealogy research on my grandfather I discovered that until the late 1800’s in Denmark, the way a boy’s last name was determined at birth was by taking the first name of the baby boy’s father and adding “son” or “sen” to the end. For example: If Johan Nielsen fathered a son, the son’s last name became Johansen (or Johanson)...derived from Johan’s son. In this example Johan Nielsen would have been the son of some guy whose first name was Neil. Sometime around 1900 a law was passed in Denmark outlawing this naming practice. I feel sorry for the poor lad whose name was Dickin |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 15, 2018 8:28:02 GMT -6
So what position do we upgrade if we can't deal for a catcher. Castellanos would be an upgrade in LF based on the season he's having. But that would move Tucker or
Reddick to a part-time role for the stretch run. Choo would be an upgrade at DH, but dealing with TEX isn't realistic we'd do that
I can't think of another bat that's having a good season. Someone that would make an impact imo Yeah, if they acquire a solid LF, the trio of Kemp, Reddick, and Tucker need to be addressed quickly. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 15, 2018 8:30:24 GMT -6
True. It can be very confusing. My maternal grandfather immigrated from Denmark. In doing some genealogy research on my grandfather I discovered that until the late 1800’s in Denmark, the way a boy’s last name was determined at birth was by taking the first name of the baby boy’s father and adding “son” or “sen” to the end. For example: If Johan Nielsen fathered a son, the son’s last name became Johansen (or Johanson)...derived from Johan’s son. In this example Johan Nielsen would have been the son of some guy whose first name was Neil. Sometime around 1900 a law was passed in Denmark outlawing this naming practice. I feel sorry for the poor lad whose name was Dickin They do almost the same exact thing in southern India minus the suffix part. They just use the dad’s first name as the family last name. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 15, 2018 9:12:31 GMT -6
I feel sorry for the poor lad whose name was Dickin They do almost the same exact thing in southern India minus the suffix part. They just use the dad’s first name as the family last name. I am familiar with that. We have a good many doctors in the area who are from India and I know of at least one family of which the children’s last name is the father’s first name. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 15, 2018 9:42:37 GMT -6
Ramos has a hamstring issue...
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Post by marshall on Jul 15, 2018 10:31:52 GMT -6
Ramos has a hamstring issue... That's a diagnosis that tells us very little about how long he'll be out. It's like sprain. It can be something you walk off and never think twice about again or it can become a chronic problem that ends a career and lot's in between |
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