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Post by Saint on Jul 19, 2018 14:19:20 GMT -6
Actually the O's should have interest in Giles at this stage, I would think. Gives them a young controllable closer during a rebuild to replace Britton. Obviously they should try and get another player or two, but it's a reasonable swap for both teams.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 14:20:54 GMT -6
Sorry.... O's GM isn't named Wade. You’ve gotta admit though, if Luhnow could pull it off, it would be a great way to send Giles on his way. He could get the Assistant GM in Charge of Videos to cut out a closeup of Giles’ from the video as he says to AJ, “Fk you man.” Then he could let AJ meet with Giles and play the video while the two of them watch and ask Giles, “Remember this?”...then say.., “No...., Fk you man”.., hand Giles the envelope containing the letter informing him that he has been traded to the Orioles and walk out of the room. LOL.. OTOH... The mental midget that Giles is, should be pretty easy pickings for Luhnow Jedi Mind Tricks. He might not need to go to that level of complication. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 14:25:55 GMT -6
Giles will just keep up his tirades and antics.
You know what needs to happen to him with the help of his team mates?.......
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 19, 2018 14:36:31 GMT -6
You’ve gotta admit though, if Luhnow could pull it off, it would be a great way to send Giles on his way. He could get the Assistant GM in Charge of Videos to cut out a closeup of Giles’ from the video as he says to AJ, “Fk you man.” Then he could let AJ meet with Giles and play the video while the two of them watch and ask Giles, “Remember this?”...then say.., “No...., Fk you man”.., hand Giles the envelope containing the letter informing him that he has been traded to the Orioles and walk out of the room. LOL.. OTOH... The mental midget that Giles is, should be pretty easy pickings for Luhnow Jedi Mind Tricks. He might not need to go to that level of complication. I just hope we can use Giles as a throw-in on a deal to get rid of him. If we deal with the Orioles, I hope we try to get both Britton and Adam Jones. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 19, 2018 15:27:43 GMT -6
Actually the O's should have interest in Giles at this stage, I would think. Gives them a young controllable closer during a rebuild to replace Britton. Obviously they should try and get another player or two, but it's a reasonable swap for both teams. I would let them have Paulino and Giles for Britton. If they would take that deal, we could get rid of the two biggest knuckleheads in the organization. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 19, 2018 15:33:03 GMT -6
Actually the O's should have interest in Giles at this stage, I would think. Gives them a young controllable closer during a rebuild to replace Britton. Obviously they should try and get another player or two, but it's a reasonable swap for both teams. I would let them have Paulino and Giles for Britton. If they would take that deal, we could get rid of the two biggest knuckleheads in the organization. Would probably take one more prospect if I was Baltimore. Doesn't have to be anybody special though. Just to add to the quantity and hope to maybe get lucky. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 19, 2018 15:36:20 GMT -6
Actually the O's should have interest in Giles at this stage, I would think. Gives them a young controllable closer during a rebuild to replace Britton. Obviously they should try and get another player or two, but it's a reasonable swap for both teams. I would let them have Paulino and Giles for Britton. If they would take that deal, we could get rid of the two biggest knuckleheads in the organization. I'd make that offer and then give them Fisher or White if they throw in Jones. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 15:53:12 GMT -6
Actually the O's should have interest in Giles at this stage, I would think. Gives them a young controllable closer during a rebuild to replace Britton. Obviously they should try and get another player or two, but it's a reasonable swap for both teams. I would let them have Paulino and Giles for Britton. If they would take that deal, we could get rid of the two biggest knuckleheads in the organization. I would find it hilarious to see the GMs talking around brunch time, then the Astros GM claps his hand and out come Giles in a busboy uniform. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 19, 2018 16:04:09 GMT -6
I was just looking over the Orioles roster at mlb.com and their payroll info at Cots. Much has been said about the terrible contracts that the Angels and Tigers have with Pujols and Miggy. You don’t hear as much about this one that Baltimore is stuck with:
“Chris Davis 1b
7 years/$161M (2016-22)
7 years/$161M (2016-22)
re-signed by Baltimore as a free agent 1/21/16
16-22: salaries of $23M annually, with $17M paid as earned and $6M deferred without interest
the $42M in deferred money is to be paid in 10 installments of $3.5M annually each July 1, 2023-32, and five installments of $1.4M each July 1, 2033-37”
The guy is batting .158..,his OPS is .506 and he is striking out in 39% of his ABs. The Orioles are going to be paying this guy until 2037. Good grief.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 19, 2018 16:09:10 GMT -6
I was just looking over the Orioles roster at mlb.com and their payroll info at Cots. Much has been said about the terrible contracts that the Angels and Tigers have with Pujols and Miggy. You don’t hear as much about this one that Baltimore is stuck with: “Chris Davis 1b 7 years/$161M (2016-22) 7 years/$161M (2016-22) re-signed by Baltimore as a free agent 1/21/16 16-22: salaries of $23M annually, with $17M paid as earned and $6M deferred without interest the $42M in deferred money is to be paid in 10 installments of $3.5M annually each July 1, 2023-32, and five installments of $1.4M each July 1, 2033-37” The guy is batting .158..,his OPS is .506 and he is striking out in 39% of his ABs. The Orioles are going to be paying this guy until 2037. Good grief. The Mets are still paying Bobby Bonilla every July. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 19, 2018 16:10:01 GMT -6
I was just looking over the Orioles roster at mlb.com and their payroll info at Cots. Much has been said about the terrible contracts that the Angels and Tigers have with Pujols and Miggy. You don’t hear as much about this one that Baltimore is stuck with: “Chris Davis 1b 7 years/$161M (2016-22) 7 years/$161M (2016-22) re-signed by Baltimore as a free agent 1/21/16 16-22: salaries of $23M annually, with $17M paid as earned and $6M deferred without interest the $42M in deferred money is to be paid in 10 installments of $3.5M annually each July 1, 2023-32, and five installments of $1.4M each July 1, 2033-37” The guy is batting .158..,his OPS is .506 and he is striking out in 39% of his ABs. The Orioles are going to be paying this guy until 2037. Good grief. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 19, 2018 16:12:44 GMT -6
Hopefully expiring contracted players do not cost top prospects...more so in blocked players that are on the fringe on being Rule 5 protected or not... Machado didn't cost as much as I would have expected. Makes me feel a little better about Britton being cheaper this year if we still go after him. I thought the Orioles landed a decent haul. The Dodgers tried hard to keep that Díaz kid and failed. He’s supposed to be a stud. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 16:21:59 GMT -6
I would let them have Paulino and Giles for Britton. If they would take that deal, we could get rid of the two biggest knuckleheads in the organization. I would find it hilarious to see the GMs talking around brunch time, then the Astros GM claps his hand and out come Giles in a busboy uniform. Even better ....have him in the same suit with a rope around his waist, and let Luhnow play as an Organ Grinder |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 19, 2018 16:26:40 GMT -6
I would let them have Paulino and Giles for Britton. If they would take that deal, we could get rid of the two biggest knuckleheads in the organization. Would probably take one more prospect if I was Baltimore. Doesn't have to be anybody special though. Just to add to the quantity and hope to maybe get lucky. Add in Jake Marisnick, and sign the deal. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 19, 2018 16:37:09 GMT -6
Would probably take one more prospect if I was Baltimore. Doesn't have to be anybody special though. Just to add to the quantity and hope to maybe get lucky. Add in Jake Marisnick, and sign the deal. And Bushue! |
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Post by Saint on Jul 19, 2018 16:49:05 GMT -6
I was just looking over the Orioles roster at mlb.com and their payroll info at Cots. Much has been said about the terrible contracts that the Angels and Tigers have with Pujols and Miggy. You don’t hear as much about this one that Baltimore is stuck with: “Chris Davis 1b 7 years/$161M (2016-22) 7 years/$161M (2016-22) re-signed by Baltimore as a free agent 1/21/16 16-22: salaries of $23M annually, with $17M paid as earned and $6M deferred without interest the $42M in deferred money is to be paid in 10 installments of $3.5M annually each July 1, 2023-32, and five installments of $1.4M each July 1, 2033-37” The guy is batting .158..,his OPS is .506 and he is striking out in 39% of his ABs. The Orioles are going to be paying this guy until 2037. Good grief. Yeah that's an absolutely horrendous contract. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 19, 2018 17:28:01 GMT -6
Would probably take one more prospect if I was Baltimore. Doesn't have to be anybody special though. Just to add to the quantity and hope to maybe get lucky. Add in Jake Marisnick, and sign the deal. You leave Jake out of this! |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 19, 2018 17:38:36 GMT -6
Add in Jake Marisnick, and sign the deal. You leave Jake out of this! It's great seeing such a close relationship between a boy and his dad. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 19, 2018 17:47:03 GMT -6
You leave Jake out of this! It's great seeing such a close relationship between a boy and his dad. ***** Keep going. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 19, 2018 20:32:43 GMT -6
It's great seeing such a close relationship between a boy and his dad. ***** Keep going.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 19, 2018 20:57:07 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 21:04:45 GMT -6
I was looking at Trayce Thompson's stats. I know Springer went through a horrible slump but this guy has only 15 hits in 128 ABs for a .117 BA and .162 OB%.
Over the past two season he's 21 for 177 .119 BA in 78 games. That is brutal
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Post by Saint on Jul 19, 2018 21:17:17 GMT -6
His defense is so bad though. You'd want him over Gattis, I assume? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 19, 2018 21:24:36 GMT -6
His defense is so bad though. You'd want him over Gattis, I assume? Yes.....Everyone likes Gattis, but he is extremely streaky....I would not be against adding Martinez bat to the lineup....and make him primary DH, but he can play some 1b as well....he is more of DH than a 1b, so the Cards might be open to trading him....I think he is controllable through 2022....and he is already 29 (late bloomer)...so adding his defensive liability and age, he might not be that expensive, in terms of prospects. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 21:31:02 GMT -6
His defense is so bad though. You'd want him over Gattis, I assume? Yes.....Everyone likes Gattis, but he is extremely streaky....I would not be against adding Martinez bat to the lineup....and make him primary DH, but he can play some 1b as well....he is more of DH than a 1b, so the Cards might be open to trading him....I think he is controllable through 2022....and he is already 29 (late bloomer)...so adding his defensive liability and age, he might not be that expensive, in terms of prospects. The only way we get rid of Gattis is if we have a guy that can rake in his place or have club control over for the next few years with equal value to Gattis now and a larger upside. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 19, 2018 21:33:01 GMT -6
Yes.....Everyone likes Gattis, but he is extremely streaky....I would not be against adding Martinez bat to the lineup....and make him primary DH, but he can play some 1b as well....he is more of DH than a 1b, so the Cards might be open to trading him....I think he is controllable through 2022....and he is already 29 (late bloomer)...so adding his defensive liability and age, he might not be that expensive, in terms of prospects. The only way we get rid of Gattis is if we have a guy that can rake in his place or have club control over for the next few years with equal value to Gattis now and a larger upside. So that could be Jose Martinez? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 21:50:02 GMT -6
The only way we get rid of Gattis is if we have a guy that can rake in his place or have club control over for the next few years with equal value to Gattis now and a larger upside. So that could be Jose Martinez? He could be that guy, but the price may be too high for him as he seems to be both. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 19, 2018 22:23:32 GMT -6
You leave Jake out of this! It's great seeing such a close relationship between a boy and his dad.  |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 19, 2018 23:28:44 GMT -6
His defense is so bad though. You'd want him over Gattis, I assume? Yes.....Everyone likes Gattis, but he is extremely streaky....I would not be against adding Martinez bat to the lineup....and make him primary DH, but he can play some 1b as well....he is more of DH than a 1b, so the Cards might be open to trading him....I think he is controllable through 2022....and he is already 29 (late bloomer)...so adding his defensive liability and age, he might not be that expensive, in terms of prospects. I don’t really trust Gattis so I’m open to any kind of upgrade at DH. |
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Post by marshall on Jul 20, 2018 3:02:43 GMT -6
The only way we get rid of Gattis is if we have a guy that can rake in his place or have club control over for the next few years with equal value to Gattis now and a larger upside. So that could be Jose Martinez? Nope. We could get that same production from White or Davis at no additional cost without losing prospects. Plus, when Tucker starts raking, we'll need a place for Kemp.
It's getting harder to find players who would actually improve this roster over the long haul. Of those commonly mentioned, only Realmuto at C and Iglasias in relief seem to be improvements to our roster. Not because others aren't good, but because what we have is good.We need more than good to improve our roster.
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