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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 24, 2018 11:42:13 GMT -6
Agree. Jones is just for steady.
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Post by Saint on Jul 24, 2018 11:44:49 GMT -6
I wonder what Bour with Miami would go for...
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 24, 2018 11:51:52 GMT -6
.277 compared to what we have in LF. With Kemp backing all three OF spots wouldnt be bad at all.
Marwin just seems like he is done for. He has flashes and that about it. There gone for a week then there two to three games. And cold again.
I bet Jones would have his average jump big time if he were on a winning team.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 24, 2018 11:53:14 GMT -6
I wonder what Bour with Miami would go for... IDK. But from recent reports Astros are worried about the injurys Correa keeps getting and would like to be covered as best as they can across the board if that ever happens. I.E. 1B to shift Yuli to 3B and Bregman to SS |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 24, 2018 12:02:38 GMT -6
Gary Sanchez is hurt again . Yanks are hoping he doesn't get to the DL again. Being said he may need to move to 1B. This could be interesting when it comes to Ramos.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 24, 2018 12:03:33 GMT -6
Right now all the talk seems to be about the Astros trading for Britton. I’ve gotta tell you though, considering Correa’s back issues, I’m not sure that getting another productive bat isn’t a more pressing need for the team right now. Our farm system is loaded with quality arms who are near ML ready. Quality near ML ready bats? Not so much. They can't continue to use Marwin at SS full-time, imo. Leave Bregman there, and utilize Gurriel or Davis/White (or trade for a good 3B or 1B). I agree with you whole heartedly. I would like to see Davis 3B, Bregman SS, Altuve 2B and Yuli 1B regularly, with Marwin filling in here and there in the infield and LF until Correa returns. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 24, 2018 12:20:42 GMT -6
They can't continue to use Marwin at SS full-time, imo. Leave Bregman there, and utilize Gurriel or Davis/White (or trade for a good 3B or 1B). I agree with you whole heartedly. I would like to see Davis 3B, Bregman SS, Altuve 2B and Yuli 1B regularly, with Marwin filling in here and there in the infield and LF until Correa returns. I can't stand Marwin. I will be a happy camper when next season rolls around and he is off the roster. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 24, 2018 12:24:58 GMT -6
I agree with you whole heartedly. I would like to see Davis 3B, Bregman SS, Altuve 2B and Yuli 1B regularly, with Marwin filling in here and there in the infield and LF until Correa returns. I can't stand Marwin. I will be a happy camper when next season rolls around and he is off the roster. Agree marwin is over paid and not very good. Wish we would have traded him to the Red Sox while we could have with his buddy who is currently there coach |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 24, 2018 12:27:24 GMT -6
I can't stand Marwin. I will be a happy camper when next season rolls around and he is off the roster. Agree marwin is over paid and not very good. Wish we would have traded him to the Red Sox while we could have with his buddy who is currently there coach At times it looks like he really doesn't want to be out there. Imo |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 24, 2018 12:50:57 GMT -6
Here is a scenario I’m thinking might come to pass. Josh Donaldson has been out with a calf injury since May 29. He will be a free agent at the end of this season. He struggled with injuries in 2017 and so far in 2018 so his numbers are way down from what he posted prior to last season. Last thing I read about him indicated that he would likely return after the July 31st non-waiver trade deadline.
No doubt in my mind that the Blue Jays will put Donaldson on waivers....before he has had time to play enough to prove that he is healthy....and he will clear waivers, because no team will want to take a chance on claiming him and having Toronto give him to them, in which case the claiming team would have to pay the remainder of what is owed to him under his contract for this season. Once he clears waivers, Toronto is free to trade him to any team they want to. If Donaldson returns healthy next month, you can bet he is going to be playing his tail off for the rest of this season in order to improve his value in free agency this offseason.
Donaldson’s trade value should be minimal when he returns. If Correa is still experiencing problems with his back in late August and If Donaldson clears waivers and returns soon enough to play two or three weeks and prove to be healthy and productive before August 31, would you trade for him if you were the GM?
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Post by Saint on Jul 24, 2018 14:22:10 GMT -6
Here is a scenario I’m thinking might come to pass. Josh Donaldson has been out with a calf injury since May 29. He will be a free agent at the end of this season. He struggled with injuries in 2017 and so far in 2018 so his numbers are way down from what he posted prior to last season. Last thing I read about him indicated that he would likely return after the July 31st non-waiver trade deadline. No doubt in my mind that the Blue Jays will put Donaldson on waivers....before he has had time to play enough to prove that he is healthy....and he will clear waivers, because no team will want to take a chance on claiming him and having Toronto give him to them, in which case the claiming team would have to pay the remainder of what is owed to him under his contract for this season. Once he clears waivers, Toronto is free to trade him to any team they want to. If Donaldson returns healthy next month, you can bet he is going to be playing his tail off for the rest of this season in order to improve his value in free agency this offseason. Donaldson’s trade value should be minimal when he returns. If Correa is still experiencing problems with his back in late August and If Donaldson clears waivers and returns soon enough to play two or three weeks and prove to be healthy and productive before August 31, would you trade for him if you were the GM? I had thought about that same scenario as well. I think you have to consider it. Even if Correa comes back great, he can DH. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 24, 2018 14:47:38 GMT -6
I would not count out the Astros taking on Adam Jones in the deal either. A two birds one stone trade. That would be really interesting That would not surprise me either. I would be interested to see how much Adam Jones’ play would improve if he suddenly finds himself on a team that has a chance to win a championship. I think Jones would be rejuvenated. Put him in our lineup, he might find himself. An outfield of Jones-Springer-Reddick looks good to me. I don't think Tucker is ready to be our regular left-fielder yet. He will be eventually, but, not now. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 24, 2018 15:29:03 GMT -6
That would not surprise me either. I would be interested to see how much Adam Jones’ play would improve if he suddenly finds himself on a team that has a chance to win a championship. I think Jones would be rejuvenated. Put him in our lineup, he might find himself. An outfield of Jones-Springer-Reddick looks good to me. I don't think Tucker is ready to be our regular left-fielder yet. He will be eventually, but, not now. That's what I'm saying. Kemp can back them up let tucker be the 5 or send him down and open a spot. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 24, 2018 15:40:25 GMT -6
Padres going hard for Chris Archer and may go hard for Dylan Bundy and set up for next year. They may also go for a controllable bat aswell.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 24, 2018 16:04:20 GMT -6
I would not count out the Astros taking on Adam Jones in the deal either. A two birds one stone trade. That would be really interesting That would not surprise me either. I would be interested to see how much Adam Jones’ play would improve if he suddenly finds himself on a team that has a chance to win a championship. Getting Jones would make Hatch have to change his shorts. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 24, 2018 16:07:07 GMT -6
I would like to see San Diego compete in the NL.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 24, 2018 16:15:58 GMT -6
That would not surprise me either. I would be interested to see how much Adam Jones’ play would improve if he suddenly finds himself on a team that has a chance to win a championship. Getting Jones would make Hatch have to change his shorts. Jones could help us a lot down the stretch. I will gladly take him in the lineup over Marwin. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 24, 2018 16:49:44 GMT -6
Getting Jones would make Hatch have to change his shorts. Jones could help us a lot down the stretch. I will gladly take him in the lineup over Marwin. Coach, I think I would rather have you in the lineup over Marwin. Lol.  |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 24, 2018 16:51:29 GMT -6
Jones could help us a lot down the stretch. I will gladly take him in the lineup over Marwin. Coach, I think I would rather have you in the lineup over Marwin. Lol. Nowadays, that’s not saying much. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 17:06:09 GMT -6
It appears the Astros and Yankees are in a bidding war for Britton and "sweetening" the deal to get him. -On one hand I don't want the Astros to have to overpay for him -On the other hand I don't want the Yankees to get him It looks as though Houston will have to overpay with prospects to make this happen  |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 24, 2018 17:10:01 GMT -6
It appears the Astros and Yankees are in a bidding war for Britton and "sweetening" the deal to get him. -On one hand I don't want the Astros to have to overpay for him -On the other hand I don't want the Yankees to get him It looks as though Houston will have to overpay with prospects to make this happen Friggin Yankees. Chapman not enough for them? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 24, 2018 17:14:42 GMT -6
Jones could help us a lot down the stretch. I will gladly take him in the lineup over Marwin. Coach, I think I would rather have you in the lineup over Marwin. Lol. No, I am too old and have diabetes......I recommend you or olpapa |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 24, 2018 17:15:30 GMT -6
It appears the Astros and Yankees are in a bidding war for Britton and "sweetening" the deal to get him. -On one hand I don't want the Astros to have to overpay for him -On the other hand I don't want the Yankees to get him It looks as though Houston will have to overpay with prospects to make this happen Friggin Yankees. Chapman not enough for them? We may have to outbid the Yankees in self defense. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 17:33:00 GMT -6
Friggin Yankees. Chapman not enough for them? We may have to outbid the Yankees in self defense. As long as Alvarez, Whitley and Tuckers name are out of it... I'm good.
I would throw in White and Kemp as ready made players that can boom with every day play.
I think Straw would be a great candidate as well as he has torn up the minors with hitting and OB%. He also has tons of speed. As an OFer we wouldn't need him at all as he is completely blocked.
Hopefully they will also accept Reed and or Fisher. Reed has played 3 games in the majors the past 2 seasons and could be looked at as a possibility. I think the Astros prefer not to call him up and lose any chance of getting value for him.
Would LOVE to get rid of Giles but he's still given up 5 hits in 3 innings in the minors (not sure how that translates)
If that's not enough then JD Davis or C.Perez would be pieces I would try to hold onto but give up if needed. I'm also okay with losing Bukauskas if needbe.
A part of me wants to hold onto Beer just for the name alone.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 24, 2018 17:46:58 GMT -6
I mentioned a couple weeks ago how Luhnow-esque it would be to go the route of trading for SP, implausible as it seems to the general fanbase. It's looking like more of a possibility now. Ideally, I'd like to see Castellanos and Iglesias become Astros, with Marwin getting traded/benched in favor of White. I can't see the need to get Abreu when White is already a better, cheaper version of him. I like Castelllanos and Iglesius and getting rid of Marwin and Giles would be addition by subtraction. For the life of me, I don't understand why you like Tyler White. He is a right-handed AJ Reed and neither will ever help our team. White has consistently hit better than Reed and especially, White has shown he can hit major league pitching... whereas Reed really hasn't. 2017 White: .853 OPS (MLB), .898 (AAA) Reed: 0 for 6 (MLB), .883 OPS (AAA) 2018 White: .813 OPS (MLB), 1.028 OPS (AAA) Reed: 0 for 3 (MLB), .883 OPS (AAA) Digging deeper into their plate discipline stats, you can see that White has much better bat-to-ball skills, isn't nearly as likely as Reed to chase pitches out of the zone, has a very low whiff rate by Astros standards... I know many people have a habit of mentioning these two players in the same breath, as though they are equivalent, but to me one is a major leaguer and the other isn't. I think Luhnow/Hinch see more in White than they do in Reed too. There's a reason White made the ALDS roster last year over Reed/Kemp. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 24, 2018 17:51:12 GMT -6
Adam Jones would be a solid add for the OF.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 24, 2018 17:54:40 GMT -6
Adam Jones would be a solid add for the OF. Is he still good in CF, or would he be the LF with Springer in center? |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 24, 2018 18:00:34 GMT -6
Astros don’t absolutely have to have Britton. Bid it up with the Yankees to the point they have to overpay and weaken their farm system then let them have him.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 24, 2018 18:00:59 GMT -6
Adam Jones would be a solid add for the OF. Is he still good in CF, or would he be the LF with Springer in center? Springer would be preferable to Jones in CF. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 18:03:15 GMT -6
Astros don’t absolutely have to have Britton. Bid it up with the Yankees to the point they have to overpay and weaken their farm system then let them have him. That's part ot the nine dimenional chess game that Luhnow plays so masterfully. Make our competitors blink first and overpay for rentals and high risk targets. |
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