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Post by unionstation82 on May 3, 2018 10:17:37 GMT -6
Markakis? Dude has been playing since 1972. No thanks. José Bautista is a dinosaur but would’ve been at least an average DH here. |
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Post by bearbryant on May 3, 2018 11:35:48 GMT -6
Markakis? Dude has been playing since 1972. No thanks. José Bautista is a dinosaur but would’ve been at least an average DH here. |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 3, 2018 12:42:02 GMT -6
I still can’t figure out why the front office was cool with Hattis as the full time DH. It just doesn’t make sense why Beltrán being really old and having a bad year would make them go back to relying more on Gattis’s offense.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 3, 2018 12:43:27 GMT -6
Travis deserves credit for commenting at the time free-agent bats were picked off the shelves at bargain prices over the winter how foolish it'd be for Luhnow not to take advantage. He's always been rather insightful and it's a mystery why he stopped posting Despite my minor arguments with Travis, I appreciated his opposing views because they were fairly objective. He was like Ghick minus the smarminess. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 3, 2018 15:14:58 GMT -6
Travis is fairly newly-wed, plus he lives in Korea. I'm not sure if one, the other, or neither has anything to do with his absenteeism.
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Post by astrosdoug on May 3, 2018 23:29:29 GMT -6
Kelvin Herrera might be the Astros solution for closer. Rangers reportedly thought about trading for him in the off season.
Herrera's first season in the majors was 2012 and he has never been below league average in any year. In fact he has a career ERA+ of 150. Not slowing down this year either. Only 1 run allowed in 10.2 innings.
Herrera got 26 saves last year and he has 5 so far this year. Only blew 4 saves last season.
He's held a 1.26 ERA in 22 postseason games. He's someone the Astros could feel confident with in October.
He's a free agent at the end of this year and the Royals have no use for him. it would be senseless for them to hang on to Herrera.
If Herrera replaced Sipp in the bullpen, Hinch would have at least 4 reliable arms to go to: Herrera, McHugh, Devo, Rondon. I think Smith is going to start throwing his fastball more and will be viewed as reliable by the end of the year.
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Post by Saint on May 4, 2018 8:21:16 GMT -6
José Bautista is a dinosaur but would’ve been at least an average DH here. Yeah with all the cheap offense it was a little surprising we didn't go after somebody. Surely they didn't expect Marwin/Marisnick to be all we needed for the OF. |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 4, 2018 13:39:14 GMT -6
From what we have seen so far, management greatly over-rated the talent we had and didn't see the need to add more offense. We are seeing that was a mistake
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Post by bearbryant on May 4, 2018 13:57:27 GMT -6
To be fair I think the fans did too. Early season projections had us top 10 offense at every position except 1B and LF, and everyone bought it hook, line and sinker. Outside of Thomas wanting Melky, and Voodoo wanting everybody, I don't recall any board members clamoring for a specific free agent bat last winter
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Post by blcoach8 on May 4, 2018 14:46:58 GMT -6
I am guilty of thinking they would do better. I didn't expect Marwin's production to fall off the way it has. We are striking out a lot more than last year and we aren't getting the big two out hits with runners on base. We can wait for just so long for things to turn around without making a couple of personnel moves. We get nothing from Gattis, Jake, or Fisher. We have gotten very little from Marwin.
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Post by marshall on May 4, 2018 14:59:48 GMT -6
Excellent video. It shows his Achilles heel. The ball breaks out of the strike zone. Unless he has a pitch that stays in the strike zone to complement this pitch, he'll wind up with batters just taking walks. If we did get him, I bet you'd see him coached to do like Morton and start that pitch at the chest and let it break over the plate. back in the day that is how they taught guys to throw the curve. If you had a good fastball and a curve that you started out at the guys head or chest you can bet that that guy did not load up and put good swings on those curves. Particularly if the arm slot is exactly the same ala Verlander. You recover in time to swing but not well. If you have a slider that breaks 12-16" as well then you are one bad dude. Agreed. That's the complimentary pitch I was talking about. The great curve outside the zone HAS TO have a complimentary pitch that goes n the zone for a strike. Something has to get the called strikes if they let the bat sit on their shoulders. Major league batters will eventually make you throw strikes. |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 4, 2018 15:19:17 GMT -6
To be fair I think the fans did too. Early season projections had us top 10 offense at every position except 1B and LF, and everyone bought it hook, line and sinker. Outside of Thomas wanting Melky, and Voodoo wanting everybody, I don't recall any board members clamoring for a specific free agent bat last winter I wanted a DH in place of Gattis before the season began, and it’s looking bad right now. I don’t think anyone saw the entire offense sputtering so badly. Reddick is someone outside of the usual suspects who needs to step up as well, but he was always a complementary player and not a superstar. |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 4, 2018 15:35:33 GMT -6
I can't stand Bautista but he would be better than Gattis
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Post by unionstation82 on May 4, 2018 15:37:32 GMT -6
We’ll see how much better. The Braves bought low.
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Post by thomasj13 on May 4, 2018 15:37:35 GMT -6
To be fair I think the fans did too. Early season projections had us top 10 offense at every position except 1B and LF, and everyone bought it hook, line and sinker. Outside of Thomas wanting Melky, and Voodoo wanting everybody, I don't recall any board members clamoring for a specific free agent bat last winter I wanted a DH in place of Gattis before the season began, and its looking bad right now. I don’t think anyone saw the entire offense sputtering so badly. Reddick is someone outside of the usual suspects who needs to step up as well, but he was always a complementary player and not a superstar. Astros have a great young core of hitters....What I think we should be looking for comme trade deadline, is a veteran on a losing team that the team wants to do right by him...I wish the Rangers would be open to trading Beltre, but Bortaz is right, they are F'ing aholes, and never would they be open to trading away Beltre, a pending FA, to the Astros....so, we should just look around other teams, and find that player that fits that profile....A 2016 Carlos Beltran, not the 2017 Beltran. |
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Post by thomasj13 on May 4, 2018 15:41:46 GMT -6
Jose Abreu is in his last year of his contract....I was not interested in him before, because the asking price would have been step...but now, with one year left, what would the White Sox ask for him, come trade deadline?
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Post by Saint on May 4, 2018 16:18:21 GMT -6
Jose Abreu is in his last year of his contract....I was not interested in him before, because the asking price would have been step...but now, with one year left, what would the White Sox ask for him, come trade deadline? Love me some Abreu. |
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Post by abregmanfan on May 4, 2018 19:24:08 GMT -6
Jose Abreu is in his last year of his contract....I was not interested in him before, because the asking price would have been step...but now, with one year left, what would the White Sox ask for him, come trade deadline? We can give them Sipp, Giles, Jake and Gattis. Lmao |
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Post by thomasj13 on May 4, 2018 19:28:17 GMT -6
Jose Abreu is in his last year of his contract....I was not interested in him before, because the asking price would have been step...but now, with one year left, what would the White Sox ask for him, come trade deadline? We can give them Sipp, Giles, Jake and Gattis. Lmao Deal...and throw in Bushue for good measure! |
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Post by astrosdoug on May 4, 2018 19:37:10 GMT -6
back in the day that is how they taught guys to throw the curve. If you had a good fastball and a curve that you started out at the guys head or chest you can bet that that guy did not load up and put good swings on those curves. Particularly if the arm slot is exactly the same ala Verlander. You recover in time to swing but not well. If you have a slider that breaks 12-16" as well then you are one bad dude. Agreed. That's the complimentary pitch I was talking about. The great curve outside the zone HAS TO have a complimentary pitch that goes n the zone for a strike. Something has to get the called strikes if they let the bat sit on their shoulders. Major league batters will eventually make you throw strikes. Ottavino is throwing 51% of his pitches in the strike zone (highest % of his career) and is striking out a ridiculous 53% of batters. For some reason, he has added 1 mph to his fastball and also the ball is moving around a lot more. Not sure how he does it and maybe he won't keep it up. But he has a lot of people scratching their heads now. |
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Post by bearbryant on May 4, 2018 19:48:58 GMT -6
To be fair I think the fans did too. Early season projections had us top 10 offense at every position except 1B and LF, and everyone bought it hook, line and sinker. Outside of Thomas wanting Melky, and Voodoo wanting everybody, I don't recall any board members clamoring for a specific free agent bat last winter , and it’s looking bad right now. I don’t think anyone saw the entire offense sputtering so badly. Reddick is someone outside of the usual suspects who needs to step up as well, but he was always a complementary player and not a superstar. |
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Post by thomasj13 on May 4, 2018 19:58:34 GMT -6
I wanted a DH in place of Gattis before the season began, and it’s looking bad right now. I don’t think anyone saw the entire offense sputtering so badly. Reddick is someone outside of the usual suspects who needs to step up as well, but he was always a complementary player and not a superstar. Goldschmidt 2020 along with Altuve, Correa, Tucker and Bregman......and possibly Alvarez and Straw..... |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 4, 2018 19:58:59 GMT -6
Oh, I never wanted Martinez here or CarGo. I was lukewarm on Melky.
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Post by thomasj13 on May 4, 2018 20:00:12 GMT -6
Oh, I never wanted Martinez here or CarGo. I was lukewarm on Melky. Melky Way? He was so cheap, he was a give away. |
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Post by bearbryant on May 4, 2018 20:02:56 GMT -6
I don't think anyone wanted CarGo. That was another time I thought they knew something I didn't
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Post by abregmanfan on May 4, 2018 20:20:41 GMT -6
I don't think anyone wanted CarGo. That was another time I thought they knew something I didn't I wanted CarGo. Like 10 years ago. |
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Post by bearbryant on May 4, 2018 20:41:58 GMT -6
Luhnow's a genius despite. He was pursuing Cole 12 months ago
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Post by bearbryant on May 4, 2018 21:17:04 GMT -6
What a catch by Dyson. Wow
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Post by blcoach8 on May 4, 2018 22:42:52 GMT -6
I wanted a DH in place of Gattis before the season began, and its looking bad right now. I don’t think anyone saw the entire offense sputtering so badly. Reddick is someone outside of the usual suspects who needs to step up as well, but he was always a complementary player and not a superstar. Astros have a great young core of hitters....What I think we should be looking for comme trade deadline, is a veteran on a losing team that the team wants to do right by him...I wish the Rangers would be open to trading Beltre, but Bortaz is right, they are F'ing aholes, and never would they be open to trading away Beltre, a pending FA, to the Astros....so, we should just look around other teams, and find that player that fits that profile....A 2016 Carlos Beltran, not the 2017 Beltran. The assholes in Arlington would want Altuve or Correa for Beltre |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 4, 2018 22:44:17 GMT -6
Yeah but I just don't remember you saying we should sign JD Martinez is what I mean. And Corch never said Luhnow is an idiot for not trying to get Martinez even though that's something he would say Goldschmidt 2020 along with Altuve, Correa, Tucker and Bregman......and possibly Alvarez and Straw..... When Goldschmidt becomes a free agent, he should be the top target...He is a local boy. |
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