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Post by Saint on Aug 15, 2018 10:54:56 GMT -6
And yet, despite all of their struggles, we were winning games better than anybody but Boston before this rash of injuries. I'm not trying to say we shouldn't be concerned, but if (IF) we can get Altuve and Springer back healthy, not to mention McCann and Devo, I think we will see a nice turnaround. Hopefully we don't fall too far behind before that happens. I look forward to that as well, but there’s no excuse for the team being this bad with Bregman, Correa, and others still in the lineup. It’s so bad that I don’t know if they can beat the Orioles. Luhnow needs to be contacting almost any team with players (who’ve cleared waivers) who can fill the need of DH or LF before it’s too late. They’ve only got a handful of games left against the A’s and Mariners, and Lord knows when Altuve comes back. Time is running out. I'm not surprised by Correa. It takes a little work to get your timing back and he wasn't having a monster year to begin with. Bregman is trying too hard to be the new Altuve, but at least he is still mostly having good ABs. He's barely missed some HRs too. I think both of them will get going, they've proven they can. It's jsut frustrating when both are slumping at the same time. We've got to get the other guys going though. Reddick and Gurriel both have fairly big contracts to produce more than they are, and Gattis and Stassi need to heat up again (I think they will). Maldonado is an automatic out so we just have to get used to that if they're going to continue to give him the bulk of the playing time for reasons that make absolutely no sense outside of throwing out base runners 13% better than Stassi.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 15, 2018 12:18:48 GMT -6
I look forward to that as well, but there’s no excuse for the team being this bad with Bregman, Correa, and others still in the lineup. It’s so bad that I don’t know if they can beat the Orioles. Luhnow needs to be contacting almost any team with players (who’ve cleared waivers) who can fill the need of DH or LF before it’s too late. They’ve only got a handful of games left against the A’s and Mariners, and Lord knows when Altuve comes back. Time is running out. I'm not surprised by Correa. It takes a little work to get your timing back and he wasn't having a monster year to begin with. Bregman is trying too hard to be the new Altuve, but at least he is still mostly having good ABs. He's barely missed some HRs too. I think both of them will get going, they've proven they can. It's jsut frustrating when both are slumping at the same time. We've got to get the other guys going though. Reddick and Gurriel both have fairly big contracts to produce more than they are, and Gattis and Stassi need to heat up again (I think they will). Maldonado is an automatic out so we just have to get used to that if they're going to continue to give him the bulk of the playing time for reasons that make absolutely no sense outside of throwing out base runners 13% better than Stassi. I agree that Correa needs to get his timing back, but they can’t wait forever. I think that when a guy says he wants to be the MVP, we as a fan base need to stop covering for his shortcomings. I’m also tired of the media talking about launch angles and whatnot. That line drive that Gurriel whiffled for a triple yesterday is what this offense needs to do more often. Reddick followed that with another nice clean hit. Trying to slam grounders toward a shift-fortified part of the infield won’t get the job done. Hitting the ball toward the left side of the infield or shallow to an outfielder with runners on base won’t get it done either. Not sending runners with GIDP machines at the plate is a bad plan. As much as we tend to dislike Marwin or Jake dropping down bunts, it’s at least an alternate attempt at something and is a nice break from seeing the rest of them swing and miss.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 15, 2018 13:07:22 GMT -6
Goodbye to Keuchel unless he accepts the QO, Marwin, Gattis, Harris, McCann .....that is a lot of money Not being spent.... A lot of talks of the Stros folks not to offer Dallas anything more than the QO. But with the shortage of starting pitching I am sure he is going to play the market. One wonders is it going to be like last season where the owners squeeze the players and it drags out. I was thinking what the Cubs did, blowing off Arrieta, and going after Darvish, a decision they are probably regretting. I just don't see the Astros gambling on Dallas with a long. expensive contract...Their best option would be to offer him a QO - if he takes, great...if doesn't, well the Astros will still get draft compensatoin.
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Post by Saint on Aug 15, 2018 13:13:34 GMT -6
I'm not surprised by Correa. It takes a little work to get your timing back and he wasn't having a monster year to begin with. Bregman is trying too hard to be the new Altuve, but at least he is still mostly having good ABs. He's barely missed some HRs too. I think both of them will get going, they've proven they can. It's jsut frustrating when both are slumping at the same time. We've got to get the other guys going though. Reddick and Gurriel both have fairly big contracts to produce more than they are, and Gattis and Stassi need to heat up again (I think they will). Maldonado is an automatic out so we just have to get used to that if they're going to continue to give him the bulk of the playing time for reasons that make absolutely no sense outside of throwing out base runners 13% better than Stassi. I agree that Correa needs to get his timing back, but they can’t wait forever. I think that when a guy says he wants to be the MVP, we as a fan base need to stop covering for his shortcomings. I’m also tired of the media talking about launch angles and whatnot. That line drive that Gurriel whiffled for a triple yesterday is what this offense needs to do more often. Reddick followed that with another nice clean hit. Trying to slam grounders toward a shift-fortified part of the infield won’t get the job done. Hitting the ball toward the left side of the infield or shallow to an outfielder with runners on base won’t get it done either. Not sending runners with GIDP machines at the plate is a bad plan. As much as we tend to dislike Marwin or Jake dropping down bunts, it’s at least an alternate attempt at something and is a nice break from seeing the rest of them swing and miss. I don't understand why we didn't bunt with Maldonado yesterday. It seemed like a no-brainer to me. Hey, and don't look now but Marwin is putting together a respectable season. He's even up to a 2.0 WAR (which is the 2nd best of his career for a season).
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 15, 2018 13:46:17 GMT -6
I agree that Correa needs to get his timing back, but they can’t wait forever. I think that when a guy says he wants to be the MVP, we as a fan base need to stop covering for his shortcomings. I’m also tired of the media talking about launch angles and whatnot. That line drive that Gurriel whiffled for a triple yesterday is what this offense needs to do more often. Reddick followed that with another nice clean hit. Trying to slam grounders toward a shift-fortified part of the infield won’t get the job done. Hitting the ball toward the left side of the infield or shallow to an outfielder with runners on base won’t get it done either. Not sending runners with GIDP machines at the plate is a bad plan. As much as we tend to dislike Marwin or Jake dropping down bunts, it’s at least an alternate attempt at something and is a nice break from seeing the rest of them swing and miss. I don't understand why we didn't bunt with Maldonado yesterday. It seemed like a no-brainer to me. Hey, and don't look now but Marwin is putting together a respectable season. He's even up to a 2.0 WAR (which is the 2nd best of his career for a season). Marwin has improved lately, I’ll agree. As for Maldonado, I don’t have a clue what they’re doing with him with runners on base. Tucker has speed. He should’ve stolen a base. They pride themselves on aggressive baserunning, but they’re cool with keeping runners where they are. Altuve doesn’t have to be the only one stealing bases.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 15, 2018 13:48:43 GMT -6
I don't understand why we didn't bunt with Maldonado yesterday. It seemed like a no-brainer to me. Hey, and don't look now but Marwin is putting together a respectable season. He's even up to a 2.0 WAR (which is the 2nd best of his career for a season). Marwin has improved lately, I’ll agree. As for Maldonado, I don’t have a clue what they’re doing with him with runners on base. Tucker has speed. He should’ve stolen a base. They pride themselves on aggressive baserunning, but they’re cool with keeping runners where they are. Altuve doesn’t have to be the only one stealing bases. Not worried for now...Astros will make playoffs....because I say so...now wil Luhnow get the last missing piece through waivers...
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 15, 2018 13:59:52 GMT -6
I wish vodoo would report that the reds put Votto on waivers.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 15, 2018 14:01:43 GMT -6
I wish vodoo would report that the reds put Votto on waivers. Expensive contract..
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 15, 2018 14:03:56 GMT -6
On a serious note Hanley is still out there.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 15, 2018 14:07:13 GMT -6
On a serious note Hanley is still out there. We need something to turn these MOFOs around.
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Post by olpapa on Aug 15, 2018 14:36:56 GMT -6
Maybe we could sign Danny Valencia to police the clubhouse and beat the stuffing out of any player who isn’t producing.
As a side note, he has owned David Price in his career.
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 15, 2018 14:57:02 GMT -6
A lot of talks of the Stros folks not to offer Dallas anything more than the QO. But with the shortage of starting pitching I am sure he is going to play the market. One wonders is it going to be like last season where the owners squeeze the players and it drags out. I was thinking what the Cubs did, blowing off Arrieta, and going after Darvish, a decision they are probably regretting. I just don't see the Astros gambling on Dallas with a long. expensive contract...Their best option would be to offer him a QO - if he takes, great...if doesn't, well the Astros will still get draft compensatoin. I could see the Phillies making a move on Dallas in the off season, they have plenty money to burn.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 15, 2018 15:33:52 GMT -6
I just don't see the Astros gambling on Dallas with a long. expensive contract...Their best option would be to offer him a QO - if he takes, great...if doesn't, well the Astros will still get draft compensatoin. I could see the Phillies making a move on Dallas in the off season, they have plenty money to burn. Atlanta too
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 15, 2018 15:35:17 GMT -6
I agree that Correa needs to get his timing back, but they can’t wait forever. I think that when a guy says he wants to be the MVP, we as a fan base need to stop covering for his shortcomings. I’m also tired of the media talking about launch angles and whatnot. That line drive that Gurriel whiffled for a triple yesterday is what this offense needs to do more often. Reddick followed that with another nice clean hit. Trying to slam grounders toward a shift-fortified part of the infield won’t get the job done. Hitting the ball toward the left side of the infield or shallow to an outfielder with runners on base won’t get it done either. Not sending runners with GIDP machines at the plate is a bad plan. As much as we tend to dislike Marwin or Jake dropping down bunts, it’s at least an alternate attempt at something and is a nice break from seeing the rest of them swing and miss. I don't understand why we didn't bunt with Maldonado yesterday. It seemed like a no-brainer to me. Hey, and don't look now but Marwin is putting together a respectable season. He's even up to a 2.0 WAR (which is the 2nd best of his career for a season). Again demonstrating the ridiculousness of WAR. The dude sucked completely for the first 4+ months of a season, then has a good 2 weeks and his WAR is magically 2 all of a sudden?
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 15, 2018 15:43:55 GMT -6
I could see the Phillies making a move on Dallas in the off season, they have plenty money to burn. Atlanta too True these teams would love to have veteran presence for a young staff.
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Post by Saint on Aug 15, 2018 15:47:28 GMT -6
I don't understand why we didn't bunt with Maldonado yesterday. It seemed like a no-brainer to me. Hey, and don't look now but Marwin is putting together a respectable season. He's even up to a 2.0 WAR (which is the 2nd best of his career for a season). Again demonstrating the ridiculousness of WAR. The dude sucked completely for the first 4+ months of a season, then has a good 2 weeks and his WAR is magically 2 all of a sudden? It's not magical. It was gradually going up. He sucked offensively, but he still had value with his defense even when slumping. But yeah, WAR is based a good amount on offensive percentages. So since he has became a league average hitter OPS-wise (getting on base better and showing a little pop finally) his WAR has gone up with it. A 2.0 WAR is nothing to write home about, but it's certainly a solid performance. It doesn't make him an all-star or close to it, but the last month has brought his season up to currently being solid. Even the stats y'all like better (AVG, HR, etc.) are improving. He still shouldn't be a starter, but with all of our injuries we could do much much worse having him as a utility player. On pace for 14 HR 62 RBI .243/.324/.387 from a guy that has played 5 different positions is pretty good.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 15, 2018 16:07:16 GMT -6
Who is "y'all"?
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 15, 2018 16:09:09 GMT -6
Count me as one who thought having Maldonado bunt last night was a no-brainer.......Hinch continues to be against using it even when they are struggling to score. All of these DP's are killing us.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 15, 2018 17:13:47 GMT -6
Count me as one who thought having Maldonado bunt last night was a no-brainer.......Hinch continues to be against using it even when they are struggling to score. All of these DP's are killing us. Bunt after a steal.
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Post by Saint on Aug 15, 2018 18:17:37 GMT -6
Well, you and many of the other posters...
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 15, 2018 18:19:30 GMT -6
Really, the only stats I have any argument against are WAR and BABIPPITYDOODAH.
It's not stats that I dont like...its stat-heads who think stats is all there is to the game.
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Post by Saint on Aug 15, 2018 18:26:16 GMT -6
Really, the only stats I have any argument against are WAR and BABIPPITYDOODAH. It's not stats that I dont like...its stat-heads who think stats is all there is to the game. It's not everything, but it has to be a huge part of a player's value. I don't care about BABIP that much either.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 15, 2018 18:27:23 GMT -6
Really, the only stats I have any argument against are WAR and BABIPPITYDOODAH. It's not stats that I dont like...its stat-heads who think stats is all there is to the game. It's not everything, but it has to be a huge part of a player's value. I don't care about BABIP that much either. Are you down with BABIP?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 15, 2018 18:52:45 GMT -6
BABIP absolutely ruined Brian/Ashitaka.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 15, 2018 18:59:07 GMT -6
BABIP absolutely ruined Brian/Ashitaka. Poor guy...
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Post by talshill on Aug 15, 2018 19:00:29 GMT -6
BABIP absolutely ruined Brian/Ashitaka. He was a good kid. He just didn't know everything he thought he knew.
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Post by Saint on Aug 15, 2018 19:05:39 GMT -6
BABIP absolutely ruined Brian/Ashitaka. He was a good kid. He just didn't know everything he thought he knew. He knew numbers. He just wouldn't even admit that intangibles and small ball had any place.
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 15, 2018 20:16:45 GMT -6
BABIP absolutely ruined Brian/Ashitaka. I miss having Ash around.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 15, 2018 21:02:33 GMT -6
BABIP absolutely ruined Brian/Ashitaka. I miss having Ash around. Ash is a good kid. I chat with him occasionally on FB. He’s a weirdo, though. 😜
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 15, 2018 21:15:36 GMT -6
Really, the only stats I have any argument against are WAR and BABIPPITYDOODAH. It's not stats that I dont like...its stat-heads who think stats is all there is to the game. Amen...........I get tired of whenever they hit a home run hearing all this BS about launch angle, hit probability, exit velocity, etc. WAR is probably the most over-rated stat there is.
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