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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 18:29:01 GMT -6
"OF -- Johnny Gill. Had 3,141 hits in 23 minor league seasons and 79 in the majors. Nicknamed "Patcheye," although he didn't actually wear a patch."
Also came out with the hit song "Rub You The Right Way"
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Post by Saint on Aug 1, 2018 18:46:47 GMT -6
Are you alluding to the decision to have Yuli at 2B? Everyone bitching about Davis starting over White 5 hours ago. Cause LHP. Yuli can't play defense no matter where you put him. It pisses me off at the moment he'll be on the team next season and Gattis won'tAgreed.
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Post by Saint on Aug 1, 2018 18:52:31 GMT -6
It's funny with the differences in fans.
Most of y'all are glad to be rid of Giles. In Toronto they're saying, "man...we got a guy who was more successful at closing out wins last year plus two prospects for a guy we we're probably going to release anyways. Great job, GM!"
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 1, 2018 19:03:59 GMT -6
It's funny with the differences in fans. Most of y'all are glad to be rid of Giles. In Toronto they're saying, "man...we got a guy who was more successful at closing out wins last year plus two prospects for a guy we we're probably going to release anyways. Great job, GM!" Vive la France!!!
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 1, 2018 19:29:26 GMT -6
It's funny with the differences in fans. Most of y'all are glad to be rid of Giles. In Toronto they're saying, "man...we got a guy who was more successful at closing out wins last year plus two prospects for a guy we we're probably going to release anyways. Great job, GM!" Let them live through a half dozen Giles meltdowns, and seeing they still feel the same.
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Post by Saint on Aug 1, 2018 19:58:23 GMT -6
It's funny with the differences in fans. Most of y'all are glad to be rid of Giles. In Toronto they're saying, "man...we got a guy who was more successful at closing out wins last year plus two prospects for a guy we we're probably going to release anyways. Great job, GM!" Let them live through a half dozen Giles meltdowns, and seeing they still feel the same. Well they saw Osuna blow more games than Giles last year so I'm sure they won't be as upset as some of our fans have been.
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 1, 2018 20:07:47 GMT -6
The way Toronto hits, I bet Giles won't have too many save opportunities.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 20:09:49 GMT -6
It's funny with the differences in fans. Most of y'all are glad to be rid of Giles. In Toronto they're saying, "man...we got a guy who was more successful at closing out wins last year plus two prospects for a guy we we're probably going to release anyways. Great job, GM!" i am sure Luhnow is glad the Bluejays are happy so if he has another idiot he needs to dump, he will know who to contact. I am glad we got rid of Giles.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 20:15:28 GMT -6
Let them live through a half dozen Giles meltdowns, and seeing they still feel the same. Well they saw Osuna blow more games than Giles last year so I'm sure they won't be as upset as some of our fans have been. Coming to a new team and organization provides a change of scenery for both pitchers. Joining a winning team with a different attitude should help Osuna a lot. We have some veteran pitchers who can provide some guidance if he is smart enough to take advantage of being around them. Toronto fans weren't unhappy with Osuna when he helped them make the playoffs and save playoff wins for them. I have an idea Osuna will do more for us than Giles does for them. And on another note....Stassi had a good all-around game today and this is what he needs to do if he wants to be on a playoff roster. Of course, if McCann can't return, he will be there anyway.
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Post by Saint on Aug 1, 2018 20:42:09 GMT -6
Well they saw Osuna blow more games than Giles last year so I'm sure they won't be as upset as some of our fans have been. Coming to a new team and organization provides a change of scenery for both pitchers. Joining a winning team with a different attitude should help Osuna a lot. We have some veteran pitchers who can provide some guidance if he is smart enough to take advantage of being around them. Toronto fans weren't unhappy with Osuna when he helped them make the playoffs and save playoff wins for them. I have an idea Osuna will do more for us than Giles does for them. And on another note....Stassi had a good all-around game today and this is what he needs to do if he wants to be on a playoff roster. Of course, if McCann can't return, he will be there anyway. If Osuna doesn't go to prison... Yeah he had a good game, like the rest of the season. If our 1B could hit that well we might have a more consistent offense.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 22:08:11 GMT -6
Coming to a new team and organization provides a change of scenery for both pitchers. Joining a winning team with a different attitude should help Osuna a lot. We have some veteran pitchers who can provide some guidance if he is smart enough to take advantage of being around them. Toronto fans weren't unhappy with Osuna when he helped them make the playoffs and save playoff wins for them. I have an idea Osuna will do more for us than Giles does for them. And on another note....Stassi had a good all-around game today and this is what he needs to do if he wants to be on a playoff roster. Of course, if McCann can't return, he will be there anyway. If Osuna doesn't go to prison... Yeah he had a good game, like the rest of the season. If our 1B could hit that well we might have a more consistent offense. Stassi has not consistently had the kind of game he had today. Hinch must think Gurriel and Davis are both better than White since both played and White sat. Davis had two hits and Gurriel had another with a RISP but Pettis had to stop Bregman at third base. Our first baseman has been the best clutch hitter on the team even though he has slumped since the breakl. When Correa and Altuve return, Yuli will get better pitches to hit and will pick up the pace....your boy, white, will be shipped back to Fresno and probably return in Sept. Osuna will not go to prison.....the charges will either be dropped or an out of court settlement reached. Many of these female 'victims' file charges in an attempt to bleed money out of the athlete.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 6:38:43 GMT -6
One Chronicle write up for yesterday........ Balls & Strikes: Jake 'The Snake' Marisnick lifts Astros in returnNote to Chronicle........ There should be a law that MENDOZANS NOT be allowed a nickname that counters their performance and ability.That is unless the nickname has something to something elsewhere anatomically, in which in that case I really don't give a shit.
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Post by Saint on Aug 2, 2018 6:49:39 GMT -6
If Osuna doesn't go to prison... Yeah he had a good game, like the rest of the season. If our 1B could hit that well we might have a more consistent offense. Stassi has not consistently had the kind of game he had today. Hinch must think Gurriel and Davis are both better than White since both played and White sat. Davis had two hits and Gurriel had another with a RISP but Pettis had to stop Bregman at third base. Our first baseman has been the best clutch hitter on the team even though he has slumped since the breakl. When Correa and Altuve return, Yuli will get better pitches to hit and will pick up the pace....your boy, white, will be shipped back to Fresno and probably return in Sept. Osuna will not go to prison.....the charges will either be dropped or an out of court settlement reached. Many of these female 'victims' file charges in an attempt to bleed money out of the athlete. Gurriel blooped a single over shortstop. It was so weak Bregman couldn't advance. Stop trying to make 1-5 with a single sound like a good game. And I have no problem with White being demoted if all our stars are healthy, that's depth. If you want to bury your head in the sand by thinking that proves he hasn't been a good hitter for us this year that's up to you. I would expect nothing less from you.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 2, 2018 7:19:58 GMT -6
If Osuna doesn't go to prison... Yeah he had a good game, like the rest of the season. If our 1B could hit that well we might have a more consistent offense. Stassi has not consistently had the kind of game he had today. Hinch must think Gurriel and Davis are both better than White since both played and White sat. Davis had two hits and Gurriel had another with a RISP but Pettis had to stop Bregman at third base. Our first baseman has been the best clutch hitter on the team even though he has slumped since the breakl. When Correa and Altuve return, Yuli will get better pitches to hit and will pick up the pace....your boy, white, will be shipped back to Fresno and probably return in Sept. Osuna will not go to prison.....the charges will either be dropped or an out of court settlement reached. Many of these female 'victims' file charges in an attempt to bleed money out of the athlete. Here’s my opinion on Stassi, White, etc. They’re minor leaguers in whom you shouldn’t have such high expectations. Therefore, when those guys do well, be happier for them than when the stars and superstars like Gurriel, Gattis, Springer, Altuve, Correa, etc. get a big hit. Be less frustrated when the minor leaguers perform badly. I know it’s easier said than done but I try.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 2, 2018 8:34:24 GMT -6
Stassi has not consistently had the kind of game he had today. Hinch must think Gurriel and Davis are both better than White since both played and White sat. Davis had two hits and Gurriel had another with a RISP but Pettis had to stop Bregman at third base. Our first baseman has been the best clutch hitter on the team even though he has slumped since the breakl. When Correa and Altuve return, Yuli will get better pitches to hit and will pick up the pace....your boy, white, will be shipped back to Fresno and probably return in Sept. Osuna will not go to prison.....the charges will either be dropped or an out of court settlement reached. Many of these female 'victims' file charges in an attempt to bleed money out of the athlete. Gurriel blooped a single over shortstop. It was so weak Bregman couldn't advance. Stop trying to make 1-5 with a single sound like a good game. And I have no problem with White being demoted if all our stars are healthy, that's depth. If you want to bury your head in the sand by thinking that proves he hasn't been a good hitter for us this year that's up to you. I would expect nothing less from you. Since you have shown over and over that you need a group of numbers to think for you since it is evident you don't know a damn thing about what makes up a good hitter You state time and again that a guy who has never shown he is able to stick on our major league roster is a better and more productive hitter than our first baseman, Yuli Gurriel, who leads major league baseball in driving in runs with RISP. He consistently hits around .300, too. He drove in many critical runs in last years playoffs and World Series in addition to the clutch numbers he has put up this season. This guy who you claim to be q more productive hitter has FOUR extra base hits in 43 times at bat and has produced FOUR total runs and you are still foolish enough to say that White is a more productive hitter than Gurriel!!! I get a huge laugh from reading your nonsense. And, my head is not buried in sand but it is obvious that yours is either buried in a stat sheet or firmly implanted in your ass. I like White for depth and he may EVENTUALLY become the hitter that you think he is now. You love stats.......and base ALL of what you post on them. But, if you look at all the stats and then claim that White is a more productive hitter than Gurriel, you prove that you know NOTHING about evaluating hitters. I am through discussing this issue with you because you appear to be incapable of seeing what is right before your eyes and I am not referring to your damn stat sheet.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 2, 2018 8:35:54 GMT -6
Stassi has not consistently had the kind of game he had today. Hinch must think Gurriel and Davis are both better than White since both played and White sat. Davis had two hits and Gurriel had another with a RISP but Pettis had to stop Bregman at third base. Our first baseman has been the best clutch hitter on the team even though he has slumped since the breakl. When Correa and Altuve return, Yuli will get better pitches to hit and will pick up the pace....your boy, white, will be shipped back to Fresno and probably return in Sept. Osuna will not go to prison.....the charges will either be dropped or an out of court settlement reached. Many of these female 'victims' file charges in an attempt to bleed money out of the athlete. Here’s my opinion on Stassi, White, etc. They’re minor leaguers in whom you shouldn’t have such high expectations. Therefore, when those guys do well, be happier for them than when the stars and superstars like Gurriel, Gattis, Springer, Altuve, Correa, etc. get a big hit. Be less frustrated when the minor leaguers perform badly. I know it’s easier said than done but I try. You just referred to Saint's top productive hitters as minor leaguers. LOL He will go bat shit crazy.
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Post by Saint on Aug 2, 2018 8:44:21 GMT -6
Gurriel blooped a single over shortstop. It was so weak Bregman couldn't advance. Stop trying to make 1-5 with a single sound like a good game. And I have no problem with White being demoted if all our stars are healthy, that's depth. If you want to bury your head in the sand by thinking that proves he hasn't been a good hitter for us this year that's up to you. I would expect nothing less from you. Since you have shown over and over that you need a group of numbers to think for you since it is evident you don't know a damn thing about what makes up a good hitter You state time and again that a guy who has never shown he is able to stick on our major league roster is a better and more productive hitter than our first baseman, Yuli Gurriel, who leads major league baseball in driving in runs with RISP. He consistently hits around .300, too. He drove in many critical runs in last years playoffs and World Series in addition to the clutch numbers he has put up this season. This guy who you claim to be q more productive hitter has FOUR extra base hits in 43 times at bat and has produced FOUR total runs and you are still foolish enough to say that White is a more productive hitter than Gurriel!!! I get a huge laugh from reading your nonsense. And, my head is not buried in sand but it is obvious that yours is either buried in a stat sheet or firmly implanted in your ass. I like White for depth and he may EVENTUALLY become the hitter that you think he is now. You love stats.......and base ALL of what you post on them. But, if you look at all the stats and then claim that White is a more productive hitter than Gurriel, you prove that you know NOTHING about evaluating hitters. I am through discussing this issue with you because you appear to be incapable of seeing what is right before your eyes and I am not referring to your damn stat sheet. I've never said White is a more productive hitter than Gurriel. He doesn't have the sample size yet to make that declaration. But what can be seen is that White has the rate stats to indicate that he COULD be more a productive hitter than Gurriel...and possibly by a large margin. You can keep going back to the one defense you have for Gurriel while he continues to decline. That's fine. If you don't understand that power and the ability to get on base are two of the leading parts of being a good hitter, I don't know what to tell you. Gurriel hits a lot of singles with RISP this year, but we need more from a 1B than that. His single yesterday is a reflection of how that stat can be overrated. I'm just glad the current front office doesn't think like you or we wouldn't have won our championship last year. And this was never meant to be a Gurriel vs. White debate. Gurriel is a solid (but overpaid and overrated) player. He isn't meant to be the star of this team. I'm trying to get you to open up your mind to value and production beyond the 1950's.
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Post by Saint on Aug 2, 2018 8:46:02 GMT -6
Here’s my opinion on Stassi, White, etc. They’re minor leaguers in whom you shouldn’t have such high expectations. Therefore, when those guys do well, be happier for them than when the stars and superstars like Gurriel, Gattis, Springer, Altuve, Correa, etc. get a big hit. Be less frustrated when the minor leaguers perform badly. I know it’s easier said than done but I try. You just referred to Saint's top productive hitters as minor leaguers. LOL He will go bat shit crazy. Why? They were minor leaguers last year or this year.... I'm not the one who ignores facts here.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 2, 2018 9:10:43 GMT -6
The real question is, why are you two still beating this f***ing dead horse?
Move on down the road. You'll be much happier. Not everything has to be a protracted 6 month long argument.
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Post by Saint on Aug 2, 2018 9:14:37 GMT -6
The real question is, why are you two still beating this Fecking dead horse? Move on down the road. You'll be much happier. Not everything has to be a protracted 6 month long argument. It's an off day. What else is there to talk about?
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 2, 2018 9:29:10 GMT -6
Here are the composite batting stats of Astros hitters over the 2-year period from August 2, 2016 to August 2, 2018. Any hitter with a wRC+ in excess of 100 over that span can hold his head high. It's an awfully tough thing to achieve in the world of baseball.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 2, 2018 9:35:10 GMT -6
Moving along, should the Astros take a chance on Josh Donaldson if he clears waivers?
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 2, 2018 9:36:23 GMT -6
As far as Tyler White goes, you can think of it like this:
There were 598 major league hitters with at least 100 PAs over the 2-year span from August 2016 until today. White ranks #93 on that list by wRC+, right below Andrew Benintendi and right above Shin-soo Choo. That's pretty elite company.
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 2, 2018 9:37:21 GMT -6
Moving along, should the Astros take a chance on Josh Donaldson if he clears waivers? If he shows over the next few weeks that he's got it together as a hitter, then yes.
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 2, 2018 9:37:38 GMT -6
"OF -- Johnny Gill. Had 3,141 hits in 23 minor league seasons and 79 in the majors. Nicknamed "Patcheye," although he didn't actually wear a patch."
Also came out with the hit song "Rub You The Right Way"
1000 cool points for the pop culture reference
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 2, 2018 9:38:33 GMT -6
It's funny with the differences in fans. Most of y'all are glad to be rid of Giles. In Toronto they're saying, "man...we got a guy who was more successful at closing out wins last year plus two prospects for a guy we we're probably going to release anyways. Great job, GM!" Vive la France!!! That's Montreal
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 2, 2018 9:40:20 GMT -6
Moving along, should the Astros take a chance on Josh Donaldson if he clears waivers? I would, but I would rank Cutch ahead of him.....
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 2, 2018 9:41:15 GMT -6
I know.... it wasn't supposed to be right...German, Pearl Harbor type of thing.
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 2, 2018 9:44:24 GMT -6
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 2, 2018 9:49:23 GMT -6
As far as Tyler White goes, you can think of it like this: There were 598 major league hitters with at least 100 PAs over the 2-year span from August 2016 until today. White ranks #93 on that list by wRC+, right below Andrew Benintendi and right above Shin-soo Choo. That's pretty elite company. With White I think it's more about his defense. He and Gattis are pretty limited where you can put them on the diamond, and you add Yuli's deteriorating glove it's tough to see all 3 of them being on the ML roster next season
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