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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 15, 2018 9:40:10 GMT -6
Hopefully, Hinch saw what the rest of the world saw in Rondon last night. He needs the Giles treatment from last postseason.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 15, 2018 11:08:19 GMT -6
Hopefully, Hinch saw what the rest of the world saw in Rondon last night. He needs the Giles treatment from last postseason. I hope Hinch got the evidence needed to prove he screwed up by adding Rondon and removing Straw. On another note, has anyone seen the video that implies that Matt Barnes had pine tar on his arm while he was on the mound last night?
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 15, 2018 11:09:45 GMT -6
maybe we can dig up evidence that Rondon is disabled and replace him
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 15, 2018 11:11:17 GMT -6
Yeah. I read that it could also be sunblock. ESPN had an article stating that every postseason pitcher is known to use tar or sunblock (in violation of the rules), and the writer was encouraging managers to stop asking the umps to, for instance, check out Maldonado's mitt. His implication was that, if the managers started snitching, we wouldn't have any pitchers left to pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 11:17:42 GMT -6
Yeah. I read that it could also be sunblock. ESPN had an article stating that every postseason pitcher is known to use tar or sunblock (in violation of the rules), and the writer was encouraging managers to stop asking the umps to, for instance, check out Maldonado's mitt. His implication was that, if the managers started snitching, we wouldn't have any pitchers left to pitch. Saw an article last week on this very subject concerning the Sox. I agree, the who's using what, when, and where is uhhhhh. a "slippery slope" that is a path need not taketh. Opposing teams are suspicious of us as well. link
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 15, 2018 11:24:51 GMT -6
I doubt if Sale is of much use to them for the rest of this series. I also saw enough of Kimbrell to know he is not up to par, Gattis did what too many did last night.....weak popup. Then, Reddick could have walked if he hadn;'t swung at everything Kimbrell threw him. George and Jose hit the ball well and then Bregman just missed tying the game. We can get to Kimbrell. We blew a great chance to come home up 2-0, but, we can still wit it in Houston by taking care of business. The Red Sox won't like all the noise they will get at MMP.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 15, 2018 11:25:59 GMT -6
Yeah. I read that it could also be sunblock. ESPN had an article stating that every postseason pitcher is known to use tar or sunblock (in violation of the rules), and the writer was encouraging managers to stop asking the umps to, for instance, check out Maldonado's mitt. His implication was that, if the managers started snitching, we wouldn't have any pitchers left to pitch. Saw an article last week on this very subject concerning the Sox. I agree, the who's using what, when, and where is uhhhhh. a "slippery slope" that is a path need not taketh. Opposing teams are suspicious of us as well. linkThat's why Cora had them examining Maldonado's mitt.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 11:28:23 GMT -6
Saw an article last week on this very subject concerning the Sox. I agree, the who's using what, when, and where is uhhhhh. a "slippery slope" that is a path need not taketh. Opposing teams are suspicious of us as well. linkThat's why Cora had them examining Maldonado's mitt. After last night, I figured Maldonaldo must have gotten pine tar in his eyes.
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Post by Saint on Oct 15, 2018 11:53:53 GMT -6
Maldonado NEEDED something in his mitt yesterday.
Well...most days actually.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 15, 2018 12:53:56 GMT -6
Maldonado NEEDED something in his mitt yesterday. Well...most days actually. No doubt you use last night's mistakes for all it's worth......which isn't much. Maldonado is still superior to Stassi in every way. Stassi will NOT be on a roster for the rest of this season. Everyone who saw the game knows Maldonado made mistakes which were probably caused by not having experience catching McCullers. In any case, we all know it was Maldonado's fault. But if beating your chest over him finally having an inning that makes you feel less stupid, go for it.
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Post by Saint on Oct 15, 2018 13:16:38 GMT -6
Maldonado NEEDED something in his mitt yesterday. Well...most days actually. No doubt you use last night's mistakes for all it's worth......which isn't much. Maldonado is still superior to Stassi in every way. Stassi will NOT be on a roster for the rest of this season. Everyone who saw the game knows Maldonado made mistakes which were probably caused by not having experience catching McCullers. In any case, we all know it was Maldonado's fault. But if beating your chest over him finally having an inning that makes you feel less stupid, go for it. *yawn*
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 15, 2018 14:17:56 GMT -6
No doubt you use last night's mistakes for all it's worth......which isn't much. Maldonado is still superior to Stassi in every way. Stassi will NOT be on a roster for the rest of this season. Everyone who saw the game knows Maldonado made mistakes which were probably caused by not having experience catching McCullers. In any case, we all know it was Maldonado's fault. But if beating your chest over him finally having an inning that makes you feel less stupid, go for it. *yawn*
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 15, 2018 17:06:59 GMT -6
I'm still pro Hinch. Not all decisions will pay off. Sometimes you just get beat. Sometimes the players can’t win in spite of him. This was one of those times. I'm not so sure pulling Cole for McHugh in the 3rd inn last night would've been the right move. McHugh had a long relief stint after one of Keuchel's short starts in the World Series last year and he gave up 3 runs. That likely was on AJ's mind, so it's not surprising he was only gonna go there as a last resort if Cole couldn't right the ship. Which he did for a couple innings
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 15, 2018 17:12:28 GMT -6
Maldonado NEEDED something in his mitt yesterday. Well...most days actually. No doubt you use last night's mistakes for all it's worth......which isn't much. Maldonado is still superior to Stassi in every way. Stassi will NOT be on a roster for the rest of this season. Everyone who saw the game knows Maldonado made mistakes which were probably caused by not having experience catching McCullers. In any case, we all know it was Maldonado's fault. But if beating your chest over him finally having an inning that makes you feel less stupid, go for it. So you're gonna bully saint if Maldy does good .. and you're gonna bully him when Maldy does bad. That makes sense
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 15, 2018 17:15:53 GMT -6
Sometimes the players can’t win in spite of him. This was one of those times. I'm not so sure pulling Cole for McHugh in the 3rd inn last night would've been the right move. McHugh had a long relief stint after one of Keuchel's short starts in the World Series last year and he gave up 3 runs. That likely was on AJ's mind, so it's not surprising he was only gonna go there as a last resort if Cole couldn't right the ship. Which he did for a couple inningsOh, well...if it happened that one time, no wonder Hinch didn't bring him in. I mean...that's surefire proof it's going to happen the same way from now on.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 15, 2018 18:06:17 GMT -6
I don't think Hinch manages that way. It's possible McCullers moving into the long relief role the next time a starter gets in trouble was the plan all along, and AJ was just giving LMJ the short relief role in preparation of that
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Post by Saint on Oct 15, 2018 18:50:55 GMT -6
I'm sure it's based on matchups.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 15, 2018 19:30:19 GMT -6
I'm sure it's based on matchups. No, it’s definitely because of that one game, one time, when the dude gave up 3 hits and a walk. 😅😂🤣
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 15, 2018 19:40:30 GMT -6
I'm sure it's based on matchups. No, it’s definitely because of 😅😂🤣 that would've been funny if I said definitely instead of likely 😅😂🤣
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Post by Saint on Oct 15, 2018 19:59:56 GMT -6
I'm sure it's based on matchups. No, it’s definitely because of that one game, one time, when the dude gave up 3 hits and a walk. 😅😂🤣 Well if he's like the majority on this forum, one bad stretch is all it takes to make them a bad player or coach forever!
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 15, 2018 20:00:06 GMT -6
It was funny either way.🤹🏻♀️🤹🏻♀️🤹🏻♀️🤹🏿♂️🤹🏿♂️🤹🏿♂️
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Post by olpapa on Oct 15, 2018 20:11:35 GMT -6
Sometimes the players can’t win in spite of him. This was one of those times. I'm not so sure pulling Cole for McHugh in the 3rd inn last night would've been the right move. McHugh had a long relief stint after one of Keuchel's short starts in the World Series last year and he gave up 3 runs. That likely was on AJ's mind, so it's not surprising he was only gonna go there as a last resort if Cole couldn't right the ship. Which he did for a couple inningsHe’s got 8 arms to go to out there bear. There was no excuse for leaving Cole in to blow the 4-2 lead.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 15, 2018 20:18:51 GMT -6
I'm not so sure pulling Cole for McHugh in the 3rd inn last night would've been the right move. McHugh had a long relief stint after one of Keuchel's short starts in the World Series last year and he gave up 3 runs. That likely was on AJ's mind, so it's not surprising he was only gonna go there as a last resort if Cole couldn't right the ship. Which he did for a couple innings He’s got 8 arms to go to out there bear. There was no excuse for leaving Cole in to blow the 4-2 lead. I think he was blindsided by the scenario of having to do that with Verlander or Cole. Not excusing that in any way shape or form. My hunch is the next time a starter has no command it'll be Lance up and ready and Hinch won't be reluctant with the hook
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Post by olpapa on Oct 15, 2018 20:22:13 GMT -6
He’s got 8 arms to go to out there bear. There was no excuse for leaving Cole in to blow the 4-2 lead. I think he was blindsided by the scenario of having to do that with Verlander or Cole. Not excusing that in any way shape or form. My hunch is the next time a starter has no command it'll be Lance up and ready and Hinch won't be reluctant with the hookHe did have a deer-in-the-headlights look about him as Cole melted down.
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Post by m240 on Oct 15, 2018 21:15:57 GMT -6
I think he was blindsided by the scenario of having to do that with Verlander or Cole. Not excusing that in any way shape or form. My hunch is the next time a starter has no command it'll be Lance up and ready and Hinch won't be reluctant with the hook He did have a deer-in-the-headlights look about him as Cole melted down. Saint called Cole’s meltdown before it happened. Even the best have an off day. The first inning mess was just bad fielding by him and the then the three run frame was just bad juju with the ball running along the padding and all. It was not our night but tomorrow night will be.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 15, 2018 21:35:11 GMT -6
If Dallas can get through the 1st 2 innings unscathed, I'll start to feel more secure in our chances.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 15, 2018 21:37:36 GMT -6
I am not liking the Keuchel vs. Martinez matchup. I’m sure the dude is salivating at the thought of facing him with RISP. He hits rocket shots, and the infielders better pray they get the DP ball to clean things up.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 15, 2018 21:54:05 GMT -6
I think he was blindsided by the scenario of having to do that with Verlander or Cole. Not excusing that in any way shape or form. My hunch is the next time a starter has no command it'll be Lance up and ready and Hinch won't be reluctant with the hook He did have a deer-in-the-headlights look about him as Cole melted down. I think AJ learned a lesson by letting Cole blow that lead. When I saw McHugh warming up, I assumed he was coming in. Cole has often given up runs right after we get him a lead. He was just BAD in the 4th and it cost us the game. lAnd, as he has done before, after he coughs up the lead, he settles down and does a good job. For some reason, that happens all too often.
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Post by olpapa on Oct 16, 2018 8:02:53 GMT -6
He did have a deer-in-the-headlights look about him as Cole melted down. I think AJ learned a lesson by letting Cole blow that lead. When I saw McHugh warming up, I assumed he was coming in. Cole has often given up runs right after we get him a lead. He was just BAD in the 4th and it cost us the game. lAnd, as he has done before, after he coughs up the lead, he settles down and does a good job. For some reason, that happens all too often. AJ and Luhnow opted for a 12-man pitching staff for the ALCS. There are 8 arms in the bullpen. No excuse whatsoever for AJ to sit on his hands and allow Boston to come back from the 4-2 deficit and take the lead when Cole had been struggling from the first pitch he threw in the game. The players are just human beings. All of them are going to have their off days. It is the manager’s job to recognize when a pitcher is having his bad day and get him out of the game before he takes the whole team down with him. AJ is all about stroking egos and showing the players that he has their back. That is all well and good during the regular season when you have a big lead in your division and you are playing inferior opponents. When you are in the playoffs all the ego stroking has got to be secondary to what is best for the team. That game #2 loss is all on AJ. He put Cole ahead of the rest of the team.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 16, 2018 8:12:06 GMT -6
I think AJ learned a lesson by letting Cole blow that lead. When I saw McHugh warming up, I assumed he was coming in. Cole has often given up runs right after we get him a lead. He was just BAD in the 4th and it cost us the game. lAnd, as he has done before, after he coughs up the lead, he settles down and does a good job. For some reason, that happens all too often. AJ and Luhnow opted for a 12-man pitching staff for the ALCS. There are 8 arms in the bullpen. No excuse whatsoever for AJ to sit on his hands and allow Boston to come back from the 4-2 deficit and take the lead when Cole had been struggling from the first pitch he threw in the game. The players are just human beings. All of them are going to have their off days. It is the manager’s job to recognize when a pitcher is having his bad day and get him out of the game before he takes the whole team down with him. AJ is all about stroking egos and showing the players that he has their back. That is all well and good during the regular season when you have a big lead in your division and you are playing inferior opponents. When you are in the playoffs all the ego stroking has got to be secondary to what is best for the team. That game #2 loss is all on AJ. He put Cole ahead of the rest of the team. I don't understand why AJ had McHugh warming up and then had him sit down and keep Cole in the game. Marwin got him the lead and Hinch sat there looking stupid while Cole blew it.....Loss on Hinch. Rondon should have remained OFF the roster with Straw kept on it. He doesn't need 12 pitchers
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