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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 9:08:09 GMT -6
If we trade for Realmuto there is no reason to go after Cruz as well. We don't have to sign a full DH if we have enough good hitters that will need days off from the field anyways.
Brantley and Realmuto will both need days off for sure, and it would be good to rest guys like Altuve, Correa, and Gurriel that have shown recently to need a little extra time. Not to mention that Chirinos is very good against lefties and could DH against them just fine, if needed.
Whatever money you would spend on Cruz, save for an extension for Springer or use to get some type of free agent pitcher....
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 20, 2018 9:08:52 GMT -6
I think you should consider Yuli and Jake could be off this roster. And Cruz at DH and White at 1B. Straw on the Bench. Theres always wheels turning. Money that could be moved and saved. Try Jake to the Mets or Diamondbacks Yuli to the Rockies I think you could get something back on both. I doubt Yuli goes anywhere. I don't think he goes anywhere either....He is worth more to the Astros than elsewhere....Even though not mentioned in VD's post, I don't see Reddick going anywhere either, because the Astros still have need of an OF and they will get probably 60-70 cents on the dollar for him... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 20, 2018 9:09:17 GMT -6
I don't see a trade happening without Stubbs for Realmuto.. Plus, I am no longer on trading for Realmuto. The Astros have rotation needs this year, and next season is just scary on rotation needs..... If they are going to trade away top prospects it needs to be for a SP or no trade at all. You are right Thomas. With the loss of Kuechel and one year of McCullers, we have gone from the best staff, to maybe 5th or 6th.. I would not be surprised if they are negotiating with Keuchel. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 9:11:39 GMT -6
I think you should consider Yuli and Jake could be off this roster. And Cruz at DH and White at 1B. Straw on the Bench. Theres always wheels turning. Money that could be moved and saved. Try Jake to the Mets or Diamondbacks Yuli to the Rockies I think you could get something back on both. Yuli is Marwin's replacement....I know you will saw Diaz, but from an offense standpoint for an utility player that would be Yuli...Diaz eliminates the need for Kemp, because Tony could not spot start at SS...and the Astros need that with Correa's back issue. I get your point but I would buy into they are very creative and they want one SP if not two. They arent really looking at FA SP at all. So the assumption would be who has been mentioned as of interest by the Astros. Micheal Fulmer Astros have had intereast in him for about three years. Tryed to trade for him two years ago. Also As of last year when the Gerrit Cole trade went down they where talking to the Rockies about Jon Gray. Rockies need a 1B so add a prospect and make that trade save some cash. LIKE THEY WANT TO. SAVE SOME CASH. That's another reason why they talked about moving Reddick. Other then Tucker. I mean Tony Kemp can play all the OF. So he stays. Straw is way cheaper then Jake. So that's a shoe in. Diaz is the utility everything. So it makes the case for bye bye Yuli. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 20, 2018 9:12:25 GMT -6
You are right Thomas. With the loss of Kuechel and one year of McCullers, we have gone from the best staff, to maybe 5th or 6th.. I would not be surprised if they are negotiating with Keuchel. I hope they are not, unless Keuchel wants a 2 year deal....which of course he doesn't, so I am not for the Astros re-signing Keuchel....I have a bad feeling he will become a #4 or #5 type pitcher in a couple of years, but at that time still being paid like a #1.... |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 9:13:22 GMT -6
You are right Thomas. With the loss of Kuechel and one year of McCullers, we have gone from the best staff, to maybe 5th or 6th.. I would not be surprised if they are negotiating with Keuchel. I would hard pass all day on Keuchal. He will get his money in Atlanta. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 9:13:44 GMT -6
I would not be surprised if they are negotiating with Keuchel. I hope they are not, unless Keuchel wants a 2 year deal....which of course he doesn't, so I am not for the Astros re-signing Keuchel....I have a bad feeling he will become a #4 or #5 type pitcher in a couple of years, but at that time still being paid like a #1.... Agreed |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 20, 2018 9:14:42 GMT -6
Yuli is Marwin's replacement....I know you will saw Diaz, but from an offense standpoint for an utility player that would be Yuli...Diaz eliminates the need for Kemp, because Tony could not spot start at SS...and the Astros need that with Correa's back issue. I get your point but I would buy into they are very creative and they want one SP if not two. They arent really looking at FA SP at all. So the assumption would be who has been mentioned as of interest by the Astros. Micheal Fulmer Astros have had intereast in him for about three years. Tryed to trade for him two years ago. Also As of last year when the Gerrit Cole trade went down they where talking to the Rockies about Jon Gray. Rockies need a 1B so add a prospect and make that trade save some cash. LIKE THEY WANT TO. SAVE SOME CASH. That's another reason why they talked about moving Reddick. Other then Tucker. I mean Tony Kemp can play all the OF. So he stays. Straw is way cheaper then Jake. So that's a shoe in. Diaz is the utility everything. So it makes the case for bye bye Yuli. Tony Kemp and is short range arm can not play all the OF....all the infielders have to run way into the OF to relay his throws.... |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 9:14:42 GMT -6
Gio Gonzalez, Trevor Cahill, Clay Buchholz, and James Shields are all free agents that could likely be had for 2 or 3-year reasonable deals.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 20, 2018 9:17:17 GMT -6
Gio Gonzalez, Trevor Cahill, Clay Buchholz, and James Shields are all free agents that could likely be had for 2 or 3-year reasonable deals. Cahill!!!! |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 9:25:31 GMT -6
I get your point but I would buy into they are very creative and they want one SP if not two. They arent really looking at FA SP at all. So the assumption would be who has been mentioned as of interest by the Astros. Micheal Fulmer Astros have had intereast in him for about three years. Tryed to trade for him two years ago. Also As of last year when the Gerrit Cole trade went down they where talking to the Rockies about Jon Gray. Rockies need a 1B so add a prospect and make that trade save some cash. LIKE THEY WANT TO. SAVE SOME CASH. That's another reason why they talked about moving Reddick. Other then Tucker. I mean Tony Kemp can play all the OF. So he stays. Straw is way cheaper then Jake. So that's a shoe in. Diaz is the utility everything. So it makes the case for bye bye Yuli. Tony Kemp and is short range arm can not play all the OF....all the infielders have to run way into the OF to relay his throws.... Again I doubt that's how the Astros see it. They have alot of money tryed up in the OF Kemp and Straw make way less then Jake. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 20, 2018 9:33:06 GMT -6
Can anyone explain this lust for Realmuto when they’re nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation?
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 20, 2018 9:33:38 GMT -6
If we trade for Realmuto there is no reason to go after Cruz as well. We don't have to sign a full DH if we have enough good hitters that will need days off from the field anyways. Brantley and Realmuto will both need days off for sure, and it would be good to rest guys like Altuve, Correa, and Gurriel that have shown recently to need a little extra time. Not to mention that Chirinos is very good against lefties and could DH against them just fine, if needed. Whatever money you would spend on Cruz, save for an extension for Springer or use to get some type of free agent pitcher.... I totally agree. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 9:58:11 GMT -6
Can anyone explain this lust for Realmuto when they’re nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation? My only guess is that Luhnow thinks JB and Whitely are going to bust into MLB and set the world on fire. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 20, 2018 10:10:09 GMT -6
My brother and I argue all the time about what the right move might be. One thing though that we both agree on is that we have to get a dependable starter that is controllable for more than two more years. Going into a year counting on a rookie to prove himself up is dangerous. Going into a year and hoping two rookies prove themselves up is just plain dumb.
For 2019 we are counting on James to prove himself up and we do have fall back positions in case he does not. 2020 though looks like a case of russian roulette.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 20, 2018 10:23:27 GMT -6
I would not be surprised if they are negotiating with Keuchel. I would hard pass all day on Keuchal. He will get his money in Atlanta. McCann has been recruiting him for Atlanta. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 10:25:13 GMT -6
You are right Thomas. With the loss of Kuechel and one year of McCullers, we have gone from the best staff, to maybe 5th or 6th.. I would not be surprised if they are negotiating with Keuchel. I'd very much doubt it. I think they want that compensation draft pick, especially if we trade some prospects. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 10:25:52 GMT -6
Can anyone explain this lust for Realmuto when they’re nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation? Win it all in 2019 and worry about 2020 and beyond after 2019? |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 10:29:06 GMT -6
Joe Smith done for the year. Ruptured achillies
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 20, 2018 10:39:11 GMT -6
Can anyone explain this lust for Realmuto when they’re nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation? Yes. I can. They're not nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation. You, as a typical Astros fan, think the team has to have a Verlander 1 through 5 in the rotation. That's simply not the case. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 20, 2018 10:41:47 GMT -6
Potential: Springer (CF) Altuve (2B) Bregman (3B) Correa (SS) Realmuto (C) Brantley (LF) Gurriel (1B) White (DH) Reddick (RF) Diaz Chirinos Marisnick Kemp - If we carry 7 relievers. Note: Not the lineup I would use, but what we'd likely see. I think Brantley should hit 2nd with his lefty bat and Altuve leading off. Move Springer to 5th and Realmuto to 6th. Probably need to swap Joke with Kemp, as Joke is the only one with options remaining. He'll probably start the year in AAA, so that the Astros don't lose Kemp and the rest for nothing |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 10:52:28 GMT -6
Can anyone explain this lust for Realmuto when they’re nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation? Yes. I can. They're not nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation. You, as a typical Astros fan, think the team has to have a Verlander 1 through 5 in the rotation. That's simply not the case. I'd love to have another solid starter, but I think the front office thinks it has two aces and then enough for 3-5 to give them 6 innings and 3-4 runs a game and our offense can outscore that. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 20, 2018 10:59:57 GMT -6
SOB!!!! Angels are signing Cahill to a 1 year deal...
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 11:01:15 GMT -6
Give up on Trevor Cahill he went to the Angels
Astros arent looking at FA SPs.
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 11:08:25 GMT -6
Potential: Springer (CF) Altuve (2B) Bregman (3B) Correa (SS) Realmuto (C) Brantley (LF) Gurriel (1B) White (DH) Reddick (RF) Diaz Chirinos Marisnick Kemp - If we carry 7 relievers. Note: Not the lineup I would use, but what we'd likely see. I think Brantley should hit 2nd with his lefty bat and Altuve leading off. Move Springer to 5th and Realmuto to 6th. Probably need to swap Joke with Kemp, as Joke is the only one with options remaining. He'll probably start the year in AAA, so that the Astros don't lose Kemp and the rest for nothing I'd be surprised if they kept Kemp as the 4th OFer. If we go that route it would more likely be Straw (provided he doesn't get traded). |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 11:09:07 GMT -6
SOB!!!! Angels are signing Cahill to a 1 year deal... And only $9 million. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 11:09:48 GMT -6
Can anyone explain this lust for Realmuto when they’re nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation? Yes. I can. They're not nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation. You, as a typical Astros fan, think the team has to have a Verlander 1 through 5 in the rotation. That's simply not the case. I think he means more for after next year. After next year we'll be very thin. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 11:11:48 GMT -6
Well, with any luck Smith will be back in time to help give the bullpen some relief during a postseason run. It's not like we were counting on him to anchor the bullpen or anything.
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Post by m240 on Dec 20, 2018 11:12:05 GMT -6
SOB!!!! Angels are signing Cahill to a 1 year deal... well hell I do not like that |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 20, 2018 11:13:40 GMT -6
Can anyone explain this lust for Realmuto when they’re nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation? My only guess is that Luhnow thinks JB and Whitely are going to bust into MLB and set the world on fire. But he dangles JB for teams like a carrot. |
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