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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 20, 2018 11:14:43 GMT -6
Joe Smith done for the year. Ruptured achillies Just when I thought he couldn’t get more disappointing. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 20, 2018 11:16:14 GMT -6
Can anyone explain this lust for Realmuto when they’re nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation? Yes. I can. They're not nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation. You, as a typical Astros fan, think the team has to have a Verlander 1 through 5 in the rotation. That's simply not the case. I was referring to next year. Verlander might not make the conditions for his option, Cole is a free agent, and so is McHugh. We also don’t know what to expect from LMJ. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 11:16:23 GMT -6
They think J.B. is destin for the BullPen
They absolutely love Whitley and if you have high end SP like Verlander and Cole you need cheap guys like Whitley James etc.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 20, 2018 11:20:08 GMT -6
They think J.B. is destin for the BullPen They absolutely love Whitley and if you have high end SP like Verlander and Cole you need cheap guys like Whitley James etc. I think they’re banking on Whitley as their ace in the hole. That could explain the lack of aggressiveness for SP’s. As unremarkable as Joe Smith was last season, his absence creates a minor hole in a bullpen that might lose McHugh to the starting rotation. They need help. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 20, 2018 11:33:05 GMT -6
They think J.B. is destin for the BullPen They absolutely love Whitley and if you have high end SP like Verlander and Cole you need cheap guys like Whitley James etc. I think they’re banking on Whitley as their ace in the hole. That could explain the lack of aggressiveness for SP’s. As unremarkable as Joe Smith was last season, his absence creates a minor hole in a bullpen that might lose McHugh to the starting rotation. They need help. Just read it on mlb.com. They explained the injury is similar to Britton's and the time of recovery. The slow start Smith had last season, even if he comes back late, it is sure a write off for the season. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 20, 2018 11:33:05 GMT -6
They think J.B. is destin for the BullPen They absolutely love Whitley and if you have high end SP like Verlander and Cole you need cheap guys like Whitley James etc. I think they’re banking on Whitley as their ace in the hole. That could explain the lack of aggressiveness for SP’s. As unremarkable as Joe Smith was last season, his absence creates a minor hole in a bullpen that might lose McHugh to the starting rotation. They need help. Just read it on mlb.com. They explained the injury is similar to Britton's and the time of recovery. The slow start Smith had last season, even if he comes back late, it is sure a write off for the season. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 11:34:29 GMT -6
They think J.B. is destin for the BullPen They absolutely love Whitley and if you have high end SP like Verlander and Cole you need cheap guys like Whitley James etc. I think they’re banking on Whitley as their ace in the hole. That could explain the lack of aggressiveness for SP’s. As unremarkable as Joe Smith was last season, his absence creates a minor hole in a bullpen that might lose McHugh to the starting rotation. They need help. Osuna Pressley Devenski Harris Perez Valdez/James/Peacock/Whitley (whomever is not in the rotation) Valdez/James/Peacock/Whitley (whomever is not in the rotation) Rondon That's still 8 guys in the bullpen before having to move to guys like Deetz, Martes, or Guduan. I don't think there is a massive need to add to the bullpen since I'm convinced they still will pick up some type of starter somehow which would push another one of those four guys to the bullpen also. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 20, 2018 11:39:42 GMT -6
I get your point but I would buy into they are very creative and they want one SP if not two. They arent really looking at FA SP at all. So the assumption would be who has been mentioned as of interest by the Astros. Micheal Fulmer Astros have had intereast in him for about three years. Tryed to trade for him two years ago. Also As of last year when the Gerrit Cole trade went down they where talking to the Rockies about Jon Gray. Rockies need a 1B so add a prospect and make that trade save some cash. LIKE THEY WANT TO. SAVE SOME CASH. That's another reason why they talked about moving Reddick. Other then Tucker. I mean Tony Kemp can play all the OF. So he stays. Straw is way cheaper then Jake. So that's a shoe in. Diaz is the utility everything. So it makes the case for bye bye Yuli. Tony Kemp and is short range arm can not play all the OF....all the infielders have to run way into the OF to relay his throws.... LF is made for Kemp in MMP, any other OF position like you mentioned he needs a deep cut off man. If Straw shows something with the bat this spring, ole Jake should be History. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 11:45:01 GMT -6
Tony Kemp and is short range arm can not play all the OF....all the infielders have to run way into the OF to relay his throws.... LF is made for Kemp in MMP, any other OF position like you mentioned he needs a deep cut off man. If Straw shows something with the bat this spring, ole Jake should be History. I think Jake would already be gone if that was the case. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 11:52:24 GMT -6
SOB!!!! Angels are signing Cahill to a 1 year deal... And only $9 million. Would think Cahill would have come here (fist tier WS contender) for $9M rathter than Angels. Luhnow....WTF happened? |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 11:54:26 GMT -6
There not looking at FA starting pitching
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 11:57:45 GMT -6
Would think Cahill would have come here (fist tier WS contender) for $9M rathter than Angels. Luhnow....WTF happened? Well, it's not like Cahill is some amazing pitcher. There are still other options. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 20, 2018 12:03:38 GMT -6
Potential: Springer (CF) Altuve (2B) Bregman (3B) Correa (SS) Realmuto (C) Brantley (LF) Gurriel (1B) White (DH) Reddick (RF) Diaz Chirinos Marisnick Kemp - If we carry 7 relievers. Note: Not the lineup I would use, but what we'd likely see. I think Brantley should hit 2nd with his lefty bat and Altuve leading off. Move Springer to 5th and Realmuto to 6th. Probably need to swap Joke with Kemp, as Joke is the only one with options remaining. He'll probably start the year in AAA, so that the Astros don't lose Kemp and the rest for nothing if we can include Kemp in a trade for Realmuto or a pitcher, let him go. He's an average outfielder at best and has a weak arm. I don't see why he should be looked at as a necessary part of the team. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 20, 2018 12:07:09 GMT -6
They think J.B. is destin for the BullPen They absolutely love Whitley and if you have high end SP like Verlander and Cole you need cheap guys like Whitley James etc. I think they’re banking on Whitley as their ace in the hole. That could explain the lack of aggressiveness for SP’s. As unremarkable as Joe Smith was last season, his absence creates a minor hole in a bullpen that might lose McHugh to the starting rotation. They need help. I think they plan on Whitley moving into the rotation at some point in 2019. I hate that anyone is injured, but, Smith is expendable. I am surprised Luhnow hasn't made a push to sign Britton. I think we add a starting pitcher......probably with a FA signing. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 20, 2018 12:09:12 GMT -6
Would think Cahill would have come here (fist tier WS contender) for $9M rathter than Angels. Luhnow....WTF happened? I repeat......the main negative with Luhnow is he drags his feet while those who can help us sign with other teams. I am not all in on Cahill, but, we could have outbid the Angels for him. More sitting on his ass by our GM. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 12:17:18 GMT -6
Would think Cahill would have come here (fist tier WS contender) for $9M rathter than Angels. Luhnow....WTF happened? I repeat......the main negative with Luhnow is he drags his feet while those who can help us sign with other teams. I am not all in on Cahill, but, we could have outbid the Angels for him. More sitting on his ass by our GM. He's signed an all-star OFer, a veteran good-hitting catcher, traded for an all-star utility replacement, and is supposedly still working on a trade deal for an all-star catcher and it isn't even January yet.... And he's done that while dealing with a ton of turnover in the front office at the same time. I think he's doing fine. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 20, 2018 12:55:53 GMT -6
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 12:56:26 GMT -6
Probably need to swap Joke with Kemp, as Joke is the only one with options remaining. He'll probably start the year in AAA, so that the Astros don't lose Kemp and the rest for nothing if we can include Kemp in a trade for Realmuto or a pitcher, let him go. He's an average outfielder at best and has a weak arm. I don't see why he should be looked at as a necessary part of the team. Because he is cheap and is avg all around. When u have money in ur OF you cant have expensive guys as back ups |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 12:57:53 GMT -6
I think they’re banking on Whitley as their ace in the hole. That could explain the lack of aggressiveness for SP’s. As unremarkable as Joe Smith was last season, his absence creates a minor hole in a bullpen that might lose McHugh to the starting rotation. They need help. I think they plan on Whitley moving into the rotation at some point in 2019. I hate that anyone is injured, but, Smith is expendable. I am surprised Luhnow hasn't made a push to sign Britton. I think we add a starting pitcher......probably with a FA signing. Astros management has said many times they dont want a LHP in the Bullpen they already have two in Valdez and Perez |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 12:58:46 GMT -6
I repeat......the main negative with Luhnow is he drags his feet while those who can help us sign with other teams. I am not all in on Cahill, but, we could have outbid the Angels for him. More sitting on his ass by our GM. He's signed an all-star OFer, a veteran good-hitting catcher, traded for an all-star utility replacement, and is supposedly still working on a trade deal for an all-star catcher and it isn't even January yet.... And he's done that while dealing with a ton of turnover in the front office at the same time. I think he's doing fine. Agree and supposedly is still hot and heavy for Nelson Cruz |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 20, 2018 13:01:02 GMT -6
if we can include Kemp in a trade for Realmuto or a pitcher, let him go. He's an average outfielder at best and has a weak arm. I don't see why he should be looked at as a necessary part of the team. Because he is cheap and is avg all around. When u have money in ur OF you cant have expensive guys as back ups I don't think Jeter is that dumb. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 20, 2018 13:01:56 GMT -6
Yes. I can. They're not nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation. You, as a typical Astros fan, think the team has to have a Verlander 1 through 5 in the rotation. That's simply not the case. I was referring to next year. Verlander might not make the conditions for his option, Cole is a free agent, and so is McHugh. We also don’t know what to expect from LMJ. You have to plan for this year and play the games this year, before you start worrying about next year or 10 years from now. No one knows what may transpire between now and 2020. Altuve/Correa/Springer/Guido could all get hurt/decline, and we could be a bottom of the standings team in 18 months. We need to do what it takes to win NOW while the chance is at its highest. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 13:04:35 GMT -6
Interesting rumor.
There is alot of talk the Astros could be getting something else in return with Realmuto
If the trade is indeed
Kyle Tucker, J.B. Bukouskas and Max Stassi
For J.T. Realmuto
It is said Lewis Brenson or Connor Scott could be also comming back with Realmuto.
Again unconfirmed but this could be interesting
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 13:06:54 GMT -6
Also hearing Marwin and Dallas to Atlanta
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 20, 2018 13:06:58 GMT -6
Would think Cahill would have come here (fist tier WS contender) for $9M rathter than Angels. Luhnow....WTF happened? I repeat......the main negative with Luhnow is he drags his feet while those who can help us sign with other teams. I am not all in on Cahill, but, we could have outbid the Angels for him. More sitting on his ass by our GM. It's ignorant to suggest that your GM HAS TO BE IN ON EVERY PLAYER ANY OTHER TEAM SIGNS. Not signing a marginal pitcher, just because someone else signed him for cheap, doesn't mean Luhnow was "sitting on his ass." It means he wasn't interested in a marginal pitcher who could only get an offer from a losing team, and only for 1 cheap year. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 20, 2018 13:07:55 GMT -6
I was referring to next year. Verlander might not make the conditions for his option, Cole is a free agent, and so is McHugh. We also don’t know what to expect from LMJ. You have to plan for this year and play the games this year, before you start worrying about next year or 10 years from now. No one knows what may transpire between now and 2020. Altuve/Correa/Springer/Guido could all get hurt/decline, and we could be a bottom of the standings team in 18 months. We need to do what it takes to win NOW while the chance is at its highest. True, you never know how long the window is going to be open. In 2016 it was the Cubs dynasty with a young team, injuries and unexpected slumps can never be figured in. Don't even have to mention the Stros last season. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 13:13:34 GMT -6
I repeat......the main negative with Luhnow is he drags his feet while those who can help us sign with other teams. I am not all in on Cahill, but, we could have outbid the Angels for him. More sitting on his ass by our GM. It's ignorant to suggest that your GM HAS TO BE IN ON EVERY PLAYER ANY OTHER TEAM SIGNS. Not signing a marginal pitcher, just because someone else signed him for cheap, doesn't mean Luhnow was "sitting on his ass." It means he wasn't interested in a marginal pitcher who could only get an offer from a losing team, and only for 1 cheap year. If there is a FA pitcher its gonna be a younger guy or a very very cheap guy. I think they have a plan to get a SP via Trade. Maybe two. Again I say watch Micheal Fulmer and Jon Gray. Shelby Miller and Clay Bucholtz would be guys who could be brought in cheaply if they fail above. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 20, 2018 13:14:11 GMT -6
I agree with Yogi or whomever it was that said you plan for today's game, because tomorrow's game may never happen.
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 13:15:49 GMT -6
Interesting rumor. There is alot of talk the Astros could be getting something else in return with Realmuto If the trade is indeed Kyle Tucker, J.B. Bukouskas and Max Stassi For J.T. Realmuto It is said Lewis Brenson or Connor Scott could be also comming back with Realmuto. Again unconfirmed but this could be interesting Meh. Why bother. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 20, 2018 13:15:51 GMT -6
Interesting rumor. There is alot of talk the Astros could be getting something else in return with Realmuto If the trade is indeed Kyle Tucker, J.B. Bukouskas and Max Stassi For J.T. Realmuto It is said Lewis Brenson or Connor Scott could be also comming back with Realmuto. Again unconfirmed but this could be interesting What I read was that they were trying to expand the trade but have it include a starter coming back to us and a couple more prospects headed their way. |
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