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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 13:23:10 GMT -6
Interesting rumor. There is alot of talk the Astros could be getting something else in return with Realmuto If the trade is indeed Kyle Tucker, J.B. Bukouskas and Max Stassi For J.T. Realmuto It is said Lewis Brenson or Connor Scott could be also comming back with Realmuto. Again unconfirmed but this could be interesting What I read was that they were trying to expand the trade but have it include a starter coming back to us and a couple more prospects headed their way. That sounds better depending on the starter... I wonder what it would take to wrestle Urena away from them... |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 13:26:16 GMT -6
What I read was that they were trying to expand the trade but have it include a starter coming back to us and a couple more prospects headed their way. That sounds better depending on the starter... I wonder what it would take to wrestle Urena away from them... That would be intereasting. Like I said unconfirmed alot of moving parts is all that keeps being said. And Jeter and company dragging there butts |
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Post by m240 on Dec 20, 2018 13:26:56 GMT -6
What I read was that they were trying to expand the trade but have it include a starter coming back to us and a couple more prospects headed their way. That sounds better depending on the starter... I wonder what it would take to wrestle Urena away from them... that is the one. I do not know anything about him but the Marlins are balking. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 13:28:03 GMT -6
What I read was that they were trying to expand the trade but have it include a starter coming back to us and a couple more prospects headed their way. That sounds better depending on the starter... I wonder what it would take to wrestle Urena away from them... My guess would be Straily. But Urena would be an Awesome add |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 13:28:49 GMT -6
That sounds better depending on the starter... I wonder what it would take to wrestle Urena away from them... that is the one. I do not know anything about him but the Marlins are balking. Still has three years of control and he's a solid #4-5 at worst. 23-19 3.90 ERA 172 AVG/IP over the last two seasons. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 13:30:12 GMT -6
That sounds better depending on the starter... I wonder what it would take to wrestle Urena away from them... My guess would be Straily. But Urena would be an Awesome add Straily would likely just be a depth piece for us, but he wouldn't take as many prospects as Urena. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 20, 2018 13:30:42 GMT -6
that is the one. I do not know anything about him but the Marlins are balking. Still has three years of control and he's a solid #4-5 at worst. 23-19 3.90 ERA 172 AVG/IP over the last two seasons. by trading their defense for ours that should knock off half a run right there |
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Post by m240 on Dec 20, 2018 13:32:56 GMT -6
That sounds better depending on the starter... I wonder what it would take to wrestle Urena away from them... My guess would be Straily. But Urena would be an Awesome add Luhnow non tendered Straily a couple years ago. His one weakness in management style is not admitting a mistake so Straily never comes back. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 20, 2018 13:33:01 GMT -6
I think they plan on Whitley moving into the rotation at some point in 2019. I hate that anyone is injured, but, Smith is expendable. I am surprised Luhnow hasn't made a push to sign Britton. I think we add a starting pitcher......probably with a FA signing. Astros management has said many times they dont want a LHP in the Bullpen they already have two in Valdez and Perez Neither of those two have proven they can handle pitching out of a major league bullpen. Valdez has yet to show he has any control. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 13:33:06 GMT -6
Still has three years of control and he's a solid #4-5 at worst. 23-19 3.90 ERA 172 AVG/IP over the last two seasons. by trading their defense for ours that should knock off half a run right there Yup. And even if he didn't improve he would still be a solid back of the rotation guy for us past this year. I wouldn't want him to anchor the staff, but he's easily good enough to be a staple in the rotation while the young guys grow. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 13:34:37 GMT -6
Astros management has said many times they dont want a LHP in the Bullpen they already have two in Valdez and Perez Neither of those two have proven they can handle pitching out of a major league bullpen. Valdez has yet to show he has any control. I like Valdez as a spot starter/middle reliever. The walks were a little high but his WHIP was still respectable for an innings eater. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 20, 2018 13:38:16 GMT -6
What makes Valdez effective is he is wild in the zone, which I am sure will improve with experience.
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Post by m240 on Dec 20, 2018 13:38:27 GMT -6
Valdez and James have a high pitch count per inning average. Piggy back start those two guys and you would get 8 innings every 5th day most of the time
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 20, 2018 13:41:43 GMT -6
If Realmuto comes to Houston - and that's a big "if" -- I doubt Tucker will be part of the trade. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 13:42:11 GMT -6
Astros management has said many times they dont want a LHP in the Bullpen they already have two in Valdez and Perez Neither of those two have proven they can handle pitching out of a major league bullpen. Valdez has yet to show he has any control. But they wont have the money and has said repeatedly Perez and Valdez are going to get that spot |
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Post by marshall on Dec 20, 2018 13:42:41 GMT -6
Interesting rumor. There is alot of talk the Astros could be getting something else in return with Realmuto If the trade is indeed Kyle Tucker, J.B. Bukouskas and Max Stassi For J.T. Realmuto It is said Lewis Brenson or Connor Scott could be also comming back with Realmuto. Again unconfirmed but this could be interesting I'd rather see Alvarez, JB and Stassi for Realmuto without a throw in. Alvarez is also a LF candidate and LF is getting crowded and Alvarez is only about 10 spots below our competitors for Realmuto. JB more than makes up the difference and Stassi is the icing on the cake for them. We retain Tucker, Stubbs and clear some space for pitching prospects.
I really think this would be enough. They would likely get three starters with upside for 2 years of an unhappy Realmuto.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 13:44:35 GMT -6
All I can say is there is alot of rumblings.
If the Astros can pull Realmuto and Urena that would be great.
Go get Cruz and still look for that SP via trade so you dont have to move Peacock out since qe lost Smith
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 20, 2018 13:45:53 GMT -6
Interesting rumor. There is alot of talk the Astros could be getting something else in return with Realmuto If the trade is indeed Kyle Tucker, J.B. Bukouskas and Max Stassi For J.T. Realmuto It is said Lewis Brenson or Connor Scott could be also comming back with Realmuto. Again unconfirmed but this could be interesting I'd rather see Alvarez, JB and Stassi for Realmuto without a throw in. Alvarez is also a LF candidate and LF is getting crowded and Alvarez is only about 10 spots below our competitors for Realmuto. JB more than makes up the difference and Stassi is the icing on the cake for them. We retain Tucker, Stubbs and clear some space for pitching prospects.
I really think this would be enough.
Alvarez is being considered as a 1B or DH nowa days. So he may start a transition unless he is also involved in a trade. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 13:45:57 GMT -6
I don't see anything anywhere about us still be interested in Cruz. All I see are Twins and Rays.
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 20, 2018 13:49:28 GMT -6
If Realmuto comes to Houston - and that's a big "if" -- I doubt Tucker will be part of the trade. Like they say you can't judge trades in some cases for years, but I will have interest in the Paxton trade with Justus Sheffield being their number one prospect going to the Mariners. This guy is a stud, the Yankees never being patient should have just brought this guy up. We all know Paxton's seasonal health record. |
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 20, 2018 13:52:12 GMT -6
Possibly .. but news reports said we're back in the Realmuto talks right after we signed Brantley. Someone's gone from being a roster designee to a trade chip Like they say you can't judge trades in some cases for years, but I will have interest in the Paxton trade with Justus Sheffield being their number one prospect going to the Mariners. This guy is a stud, the Yankees never being patient should have just brought this guy up. We all know Paxton's seasonal health record. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 20, 2018 13:56:24 GMT -6
Like they say you can't judge trades in some cases for years, but I will have interest in the Paxton trade with Justus Sheffield being their number one prospect going to the Mariners. This guy is a stud, the Yankees never being patient should have just brought this guy up. We all know Paxton's seasonal health record. Yeah Folty was the guy with the one hundred mile arm and control issues. If I am not mistaken also going the Braves way was a high school third baseman the Stros picked high in the draft. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 20, 2018 13:57:38 GMT -6
There not looking at FA starting pitching How do you know? Did Luhnow call you to get your advise?  Truth is neither you nor any of us know what Luhnow is doing about anything. |
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Post by olpapa on Dec 20, 2018 13:58:05 GMT -6
Yes. I can. They're not nearly in dire straits with the starting rotation. You, as a typical Astros fan, think the team has to have a Verlander 1 through 5 in the rotation. That's simply not the case. I was referring to next year. Verlander might not make the conditions for his option, Cole is a free agent, and so is McHugh. We also don’t know what to expect from LMJ. I think JV waived the option year as a condition of the trade to Houston. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 14:02:14 GMT -6
The other day I was considering the Folty/Gattis trade 3 years on. That was probly a push Yeah Folty was the guy with the one hundred mile arm and control issues. If I am not mistaken also going the Braves way was a high school third baseman the Stros picked high in the draft. Ruiz. He hasn't done anything yet. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 20, 2018 14:02:14 GMT -6
Interesting rumor. There is alot of talk the Astros could be getting something else in return with Realmuto If the trade is indeed Kyle Tucker, J.B. Bukouskas and Max Stassi For J.T. Realmuto It is said Lewis Brenson or Connor Scott could be also comming back with Realmuto. Again unconfirmed but this could be interesting I'd rather see Alvarez, JB and Stassi for Realmuto without a throw in. Alvarez is also a LF candidate and LF is getting crowded and Alvarez is only about 10 spots below our competitors for Realmuto. JB more than makes up the difference and Stassi is the icing on the cake for them. We retain Tucker, Stubbs and clear some space for pitching prospects.
I really think this would be enough. They would likely get three starters with upside for 2 years of an unhappy Realmuto.
If we can deal JB, Stassi,and Alvarez for Realmuto, I would think we make the trade. I'd throw in Kemp if they wanted him. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 14:04:03 GMT -6
I'd rather see Alvarez, JB and Stassi for Realmuto without a throw in. Alvarez is also a LF candidate and LF is getting crowded and Alvarez is only about 10 spots below our competitors for Realmuto. JB more than makes up the difference and Stassi is the icing on the cake for them. We retain Tucker, Stubbs and clear some space for pitching prospects.
I really think this would be enough. They would likely get three starters with upside for 2 years of an unhappy Realmuto.
If we can deal JB, Stassi,and Alvarez for Realmuto, I would think we make the trade. I'd throw in Kemp if they wanted him. I think you're undervaluing Kemp the way I did when they brought him up. He's certainly nothing amazing, but he has a little defensive flexibility and his on-base skills have value. He's a cost effective roleplayer. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 20, 2018 14:05:40 GMT -6
I was referring to next year. Verlander might not make the conditions for his option, Cole is a free agent, and so is McHugh. We also don’t know what to expect from LMJ. I think JV waived the option year as a condition of the trade to Houston. ding ding ding, winner winner chicken dinner. Unless Verlander signs reenlistment papers he is done in Houston after this year |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 20, 2018 14:05:46 GMT -6
Yeah Folty was the guy with the one hundred mile arm and control issues. If I am not mistaken also going the Braves way was a high school third baseman the Stros picked high in the draft. Ruiz. He hasn't done anything yet. I couldn't remember his name, thanks. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 20, 2018 14:06:23 GMT -6
Yeah Folty was the guy with the one hundred mile arm and control issues. If I am not mistaken also going the Braves way was a high school third baseman the Stros picked high in the draft. Ruiz. He hasn't done anything yet. Atlanta cut him but someone else picked him up. |
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Truth is neither you nor any of us know what Luhnow is doing about anything.
