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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 21, 2018 9:08:29 GMT -6
Followed by the Corch and Saint Mongoloidympics Hey I'm keeping my posts purely business-oriented now! We were reminiscing, son.
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 21, 2018 10:34:02 GMT -6
We have all been puzzling over what Luhnow has on his mind about the starting rotation. Everyone in baseball seems to think that the Astros are in dire need of a starter except, that is, Luhnow. So what in the world does he know that we do not. So I asked myself what could that possibly be and then yesterday we hear about Smith's injury and another pitching hole gets created and yet still nothing, not really any static out there in gossip land about anything other than unconfirmed rumors. So what is it, then boom, there it was a different kind of idea that may just be what he is up to. Think about this, we have Whitley, James, Perez, Valdez, Martin, Armenteros, and Bukauskas all ready or really close to being ready to pitch in the majors. All of these guys have a complete package of options where they can be brought up and then sent back down without repercussion. Whitley, Martin, and Bukauskas though are not on the 40 man roster and to do this they would have to be added and the roster currently has 39 players on it. Martes, Smith, and Rodgers are on the 40 man as well and Martes and Smith could be put on the 60 day disabled list and Rodgers could be cut to make room to implement this strategy. Also some of these guys will be limited in the amount of innings that they can pitch so a 3 or 4 inning limit and pitch counts would have to be used in a piggyback arrangement with two of these guys at a time taking their turn in the arena. Basically that would make the fifth starter slot a rotating open audition slot for these guys. James and Valdez kind of did this last year and had success so why not expand it. If our offense is strong enough we might find ourselves having to outscore our opponents from time to time every fifth day but if the offense is strong enough, why not, this way we do not give away prospects and we have a chance to really see what all that vaulted depth can actually do. Not saying I agree with this but it does make sense and is just far enough out of the box to be something that Luhnow would consider. If we do not find a trade that we like I would not put this out of the range of the options that are penciled in. Luhnow's MO tends to be if he is trying to trade for a starting pitcher with a club-friendly contract, we would've seen in the news reports who the target is by now. Everyone seems to be in agreement this is what needs to be done, but there's no consensus on who the pitcher should be
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Post by Saint on Dec 21, 2018 10:50:15 GMT -6
You wouldn't get much value in return for him right now (imo). Better to let him play some and hope he returns closer to 2017 form; then trade him for whatever hole (pitching) we need during the year. I don’t want him traded, but the winds of change are brewing. They really want a spot for Tucker full time, and Brantley and Springer are the other two starters. Yeah but Luhnow has also said they don't mind going into the season with an extra OFer, especially since Brantley will likely (should) DH some already.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 21, 2018 10:55:44 GMT -6
We were reminiscing, son. ?
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 21, 2018 11:11:03 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 21, 2018 11:12:25 GMT -6
I don’t want him traded, but the winds of change are brewing. They really want a spot for Tucker full time, and Brantley and Springer are the other two starters. Yeah but Luhnow has also said they don't mind going into the season with an extra OFer, especially since Brantley will likely (should) DH some already. It’s easier for me to picture Reddick being traded than him being paid $13,000,000 to ride the pine occasionally. Then again, he’s traditionally been one of those who gets sat against LHP.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 21, 2018 11:13:55 GMT -6
A's did a 3 team trade to acquire Jurickson Profar from the Rangers...I don't know much about the prospects given up, but Profar has a pretty good ceiling www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/6248/jurickson-profarA's are a threat both hitting and bullpen, but fortunately for the Astros their rotation has a lot of needs
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 21, 2018 11:18:24 GMT -6
A's did a 3 team trade to acquire Jurickson Profar from the Rangers...I don't know much about the prospects given up, but Profar has a pretty good ceiling www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/6248/jurickson-profarA's are a threat both hitting and bullpen, but fortunately for the Astros their rotation has a lot of needs How long does Profar live off of his “potential”? We’ve been hearing about this for a decade.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 21, 2018 11:24:28 GMT -6
A's did a 3 team trade to acquire Jurickson Profar from the Rangers...I don't know much about the prospects given up, but Profar has a pretty good ceiling www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/6248/jurickson-profarA's are a threat both hitting and bullpen, but fortunately for the Astros their rotation has a lot of needs How long does Profar live off of his “potential”? We’ve been hearing about this for a decade. I would say last year flashed some of the hype: .254/.335/.458 along with 20 HRs/77RBIs/10SBs...not bad...
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 21, 2018 11:26:27 GMT -6
A's did a 3 team trade to acquire Jurickson Profar from the Rangers...I don't know much about the prospects given up, but Profar has a pretty good ceiling www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/6248/jurickson-profarA's are a threat both hitting and bullpen, but fortunately for the Astros their rotation has a lot of needs How long does Profar live off of his “potential”? We’ve been hearing about this for a decade. C'mon dude. Don't exaggerate.
It's only been nine years.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 21, 2018 11:29:08 GMT -6
How long does Profar live off of his “potential”? We’ve been hearing about this for a decade. I would say last year flashed some of the hype: .254/.335/.458 along with 20 HRs/77RBIs/10SBs...not bad... I will say this for sure: he’d have been an excellent utility player for us.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 21, 2018 11:29:20 GMT -6
How long does Profar live off of his “potential”? We’ve been hearing about this for a decade. C'mon dude. Don't exaggerate.
It's only been nine years.
LOL
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 21, 2018 11:34:38 GMT -6
We were reminiscing, son. ? LRB. One of the best.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 21, 2018 11:37:11 GMT -6
I would say last year flashed some of the hype: .254/.335/.458 along with 20 HRs/77RBIs/10SBs...not bad... I will say this for sure: he’d have been an excellent utility player for us. "LUHNOW SITTING ON HIS ASS LIKE A DUMBASS WHILE PROFRA TRADED TO OUR DIVISION FOR PRACTICALLY NOTHING (I LOVE JAKE)!!!!" - Corch
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Post by m240 on Dec 21, 2018 12:23:41 GMT -6
A's did a 3 team trade to acquire Jurickson Profar from the Rangers...I don't know much about the prospects given up, but Profar has a pretty good ceiling www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/6248/jurickson-profarA's are a threat both hitting and bullpen, but fortunately for the Astros their rotation has a lot of needs Profar is a down grade year over year
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Post by Saint on Dec 21, 2018 12:26:42 GMT -6
I wonder if the A's don't think they're going to get Lowrie back so they're acquiring a 2B. As good as Semien was last year I can't believe they'd move him away from SS.
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 21, 2018 12:41:39 GMT -6
I wonder if the A's don't think they're going to get Lowrie back so they're acquiring a 2B. As good as Semien was last year I can't believe they'd move him away from SS. We all know it is finances with the A's, but they finally had put something together to try to rebuild a fan base and the fans were coming back. Back to business filling in the puzzle pieces. They would be a frustrating team to root for.
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Post by Saint on Dec 21, 2018 13:11:12 GMT -6
I wonder if the A's don't think they're going to get Lowrie back so they're acquiring a 2B. As good as Semien was last year I can't believe they'd move him away from SS. We all know it is finances with the A's, but they finally had put something together to try to rebuild a fan base and the fans were coming back. Back to business filling in the puzzle pieces. They would be a frustrating team to root for. Them, the Padres, Pirates, Orioles, and Rays. The worst 5 teams to be a fan of right now, imo. (And the Padres and Rays forever.)
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Post by Saint on Dec 21, 2018 13:15:52 GMT -6
Joe Kelly to the Dodgers for a 3-year $25 million deal plus options/bonuses that could make it more. He seems vastly overpaid to me.
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Post by Saint on Dec 21, 2018 13:20:36 GMT -6
Coach or VD? I kid, I kid.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 21, 2018 13:28:28 GMT -6
Joe Kelly to the Dodgers for a 3-year $25 million deal plus options/bonuses that could make it more. He seems vastly overpaid to me. Any loss from the Red Sox is the Astros’ gain. I doubt Kimbrel stays. I don’t think the deal is that bad either.
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Post by m240 on Dec 21, 2018 13:28:44 GMT -6
Coach can spell
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 13:28:56 GMT -6
Coach or VD? I kid, I kid. LMBO!
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 21, 2018 13:30:57 GMT -6
Seeing “Lunhow” is as bad as hearing “Chi-pole-tay”.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 21, 2018 13:32:05 GMT -6
I will say this for sure: he’d have been an excellent utility player for us. "LUHNOW SITTING ON HIS ASS LIKE A DUMBASS WHILE PROFRA TRADED TO OUR DIVISION FOR PRACTICALLY NOTHING (I LOVE JAKE)!!!!" - Corch *******
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 21, 2018 13:33:54 GMT -6
Seeing “Lunhow” is as bad as hearing “Chi-pole-tay”. Or Pull-Hoes.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 21, 2018 13:38:44 GMT -6
Seeing “Lunhow” is as bad as hearing “Chi-pole-tay”. Or Pull-Hoes. Is it that much worse?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 21, 2018 13:41:48 GMT -6
It's almost to the level of Ram a rez.
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Post by Saint on Dec 21, 2018 13:49:51 GMT -6
Joe Kelly to the Dodgers for a 3-year $25 million deal plus options/bonuses that could make it more. He seems vastly overpaid to me. Any loss from the Red Sox is the Astros’ gain. I doubt Kimbrel stays. I don’t think the deal is that bad either. You'd pay a relief pitcher with a career 3.87 ERA coming off a year with a 4+ ERA $25 million for three seasons, but Keuchel throwing 200 IP and a sub-4 ERA is not worth bringing back?
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Post by Saint on Dec 21, 2018 13:50:27 GMT -6
Yeah I just meant the Luhnow sitting on his hands part.
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