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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 28, 2018 0:56:37 GMT -6
You put alot of time in this don't you? I'm just thinking out loud. Apparently not many FA's wanna go to the Phillies?  Phillies are throwing out blank checks. Then again you have to visit Philly. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 28, 2018 6:47:27 GMT -6
Nelson Cruz to the Twins for two years option on last Luhnow must still be sitting on his ass. Not signing Cruz is a mistake. We need offense and pitching......As of now, Luhnow basically has done NOTHING to address these needs..........time for Luhnow to stop scratching his ass and do his job. Brantley was a great signing. Chirinos signing was good, not much in salary or commitment .I wished for Cruz, but the Astros must like what they have in White (salary, team control, production). |
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Post by m240 on Dec 28, 2018 8:04:05 GMT -6
We lost Gattis, Gonzales, Maldonado, McCann, Sipp, Keuchel, and Morton. Chirinos takes the at bats from Maldonado and McCann and performs at a higher rate, Diaz takes some of the Gonzales at bats and performs at a higher rate, Brantley takes the rest and performs at a higher rate, White takes the Gattis at bats and performs at a higher rate, So 20% of our at bats have been upgraded at about a 10% rate. For the position players we have increased our projected production at a decreased cost. Good work, but not great. Our offense was 7th last year and now perhaps it would come in about 3rd or 4th, so maybe some work does need to be done depending on what is in Luhnow's bag of tricks.
Now on the pitching side that is another issue entirely. We have lost 5 of the 12 most used guys from last year and about 35% of our innings. If the season were to start today we would be replacing those innings with two guys who were not good enough to start for us last year and rookies. Crane has said it ain't the money so if Luhnow does not make a move then he is playing an extremely risky game. He does not seem to be that sort so my money is that he is working his ass off trying to get something done and once the holidays are all over and everyone is back to work and focused then we will get another big present in January. That is what I am choosing to think, at least until February.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 28, 2018 8:16:56 GMT -6
Jose Martinez is the cheaper option maybe a reliver and a prospect could get it done
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 28, 2018 8:49:02 GMT -6
Luhnow must still be sitting on his ass. Not signing Cruz is a mistake. We need offense and pitching......As of now, Luhnow basically has done NOTHING to address these needs..........time for Luhnow to stop scratching his ass and do his job. Brantley was a solid signing. The eagerness in trading Reddick tells me he’s not sitting on his ass and is out for a bigger move. Thanks for unclogging my memory, I had forgotten about Brantley. Yes, that was solid. I haven't read all the sites,but, I don't remember seeing much about trying to move Reddick anywhere besides in nathangarza's posts. I don't mind him using Reddick to get a pitcher or Realmuto. I still think not signing Cruz was a mistake. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 28, 2018 8:51:31 GMT -6
Luhnow must still be sitting on his ass. Not signing Cruz is a mistake. We need offense and pitching......As of now, Luhnow basically has done NOTHING to address these needs..........time for Luhnow to stop scratching his ass and do his job. Brantley was a great signing. Chirinos signing was good, not much in salary or commitment .I wished for Cruz, but the Astros must like what they have in White (salary, team control, production). So far, White is streaky. I 'm noping for more consistency, He takes too many called third strikes to suit me. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 28, 2018 9:09:34 GMT -6
Trout will go to the highest bidder. I somewhat disagree. I think he sticks with LA or joins an East Coast team to be closer to home. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 28, 2018 9:12:17 GMT -6
Nelson Cruz to the Twins for two years option on last Luhnow must still be sitting on his ass. Not signing Cruz is a mistake. We need offense and pitching......As of now, Luhnow basically has done NOTHING to address these needs..........time for Luhnow to stop scratching his ass and do his job. He's already improved the offense at LF, C, and likely our utility player. We don't need a $14 million DH when we'll have enough good hitters with limited defensive positions already. We can use the DH spot as a roving day off spot for Brantley and co. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 28, 2018 9:16:49 GMT -6
We don't have to have the number one offense on paper to start the season. We've already got a top offense and should have multiple guys bounce back some from 2018. Add in respectable-good defense, and still among the best pitching even if we DON'T add anybody new. 2019 is not the problem. We should be able to run away with the division early and then make a trade during the year for a postseason run when we see how things are holding up.
2020 and beyond is going to be the problem, pitching-wise. But that doesn't mean we need to rush into stupid deals in a panic. There is time to work on that area.
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Post by Saint on Dec 28, 2018 9:22:38 GMT -6
And I'm good with missing out on Cruz. If we really did offer him a solid deal and he still went to a lesser team just to squeeze out a little extra money, he won't be missed. I don't blame him for wanting as much money as he can get with his career winding down, but I also don't think we need to pay a 39yo with a past PED suspension $15 million dollars for not even playing defense. Tyler White may not hit 30+ HRs, but I bet he could put up similar rate stats while also being able to play some defense, all at a fraction of the cost.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 9:38:02 GMT -6
Jose Martinez is the cheaper option maybe a reliver and a prospect could get it done I just don’t think Luhnow will be rushing to make a deal with the Cardinals. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 28, 2018 9:39:11 GMT -6
Guys, we never needed Cruz once Brantley was signed. I think it’s silly to say that missing out on a multiple year contract seeking 38-year old was a big loss. What we do need is to address the pitching. I think Whitley will debut in 2019, but I think that relying on one rookie (Tucker) is enough for now.
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 28, 2018 9:52:46 GMT -6
57 days till first Spring Training game....
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 28, 2018 10:07:10 GMT -6
57 days till first Spring Training game.... PTL |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 28, 2018 10:25:46 GMT -6
Luhnow must still be sitting on his ass. Not signing Cruz is a mistake. We need offense and pitching......As of now, Luhnow basically has done NOTHING to address these needs..........time for Luhnow to stop scratching his ass and do his job. He's already improved the offense at LF, C, and likely our utility player. We don't need a $14 million DH when we'll have enough good hitters with limited defensive positions already. We can use the DH spot as a roving day off spot for Brantley and co. I heard Richard Justice on mlb saying that Luhnow is "content" to go to Spring training with what we have and it sounds like they think Whitley and Corbin Martin could be ready to help the rotation sooner than we thought. He also sounded like the door had not been shut where Keuchel is concerned. Realmuto was not mentioned so I know nathangarza is in a deep depression.  They have no interest in signing Marwin...that spot was filled. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 28, 2018 10:28:35 GMT -6
Guys, we never needed Cruz once Brantley was signed. I think it’s silly to say that missing out on a multiple year contract seeking 38-year old was a big loss. What we do need is to address the pitching. I think Whitley will debut in 2019, but I think that relying on one rookie (Tucker) is enough for now. They supposedly still have mild interest in Encanarcion.....they were "in on" Happ.....thank God we didn't get him. They szid we were close to getting Paxton before the Yankees got him. Still have intestest in Stroman and Sanchez if the right deal. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 28, 2018 10:29:08 GMT -6
Guys, we never needed Cruz once Brantley was signed. I think it’s silly to say that missing out on a multiple year contract seeking 38-year old was a big loss. What we do need is to address the pitching. I think Whitley will debut in 2019, but I think that relying on one rookie (Tucker) is enough for now. And there it is. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 28, 2018 10:30:52 GMT -6
He's already improved the offense at LF, C, and likely our utility player. We don't need a $14 million DH when we'll have enough good hitters with limited defensive positions already. We can use the DH spot as a roving day off spot for Brantley and co. I heard Richard Justice on mlb saying that Luhnow is "content" to go to Spring training with what we have and it sounds like they think Whitley and Corbin Martin could be ready to help the rotation sooner than we thought. He also sounded like the door had not been shut where Keuchel is concerned. Realmuto was not mentioned so I know nathangarza is in a deep depression. They have no interest in signing Marwin...that spot was filled. And I think all of that is probably fine. I'd be fine with Keuchel coming back on a shorter-term deal even if he was a little pricey. I just hope they don't go past four years with anybody already over 30 years of age, unless they're option and incentive-based years. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 28, 2018 10:33:18 GMT -6
EE has shown steady decline over the last few years and costs a minimum of $26 million when you take his buy out into consideration. Not worth it. Trade a mid-level prospect and a thrown-in for Castellanos if we feel we really need that extra bat.
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Post by Saint on Dec 28, 2018 10:38:36 GMT -6
Blue Jays signing Matt Shoemaker. I wonder if that frees up Stroman more so... Not that I particularly want him.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 28, 2018 11:42:24 GMT -6
He's already improved the offense at LF, C, and likely our utility player. We don't need a $14 million DH when we'll have enough good hitters with limited defensive positions already. We can use the DH spot as a roving day off spot for Brantley and co. I heard Richard Justice on mlb saying that Luhnow is "content" to go to Spring training with what we have and it sounds like they think Whitley and Corbin Martin could be ready to help the rotation sooner than we thought. He also sounded like the door had not been shut where Keuchel is concerned. Realmuto was not mentioned so I know nathangarza is in a deep depression. They have no interest in signing Marwin...that spot was filled. Richard justice is currently writing for the Ray's did you know that? He isnt in the loop that much anymore I believe you never hear him talking about nothing. I took him off the Twitter feed along time ago. Dude is debbie downer |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 28, 2018 11:49:57 GMT -6
Blue Jays signing Matt Shoemaker. I wonder if that frees up Stroman more so... Not that I particularly want him. Shoemaker had a lot of promise. I wonder what happened with him. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 28, 2018 11:52:21 GMT -6
Blue Jays signing Matt Shoemaker. I wonder if that frees up Stroman more so... Not that I particularly want him. Shoemaker had a lot of promise. I wonder what happened with him. Injury. I think he'll likely bounce back okay, but it's certainly a question mark and he's kind of a douche as well. I think there are better trade options. Edit: Disregard. I was thinking Stroman. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 28, 2018 12:04:22 GMT -6
I heard Richard Justice on mlb saying that Luhnow is "content" to go to Spring training with what we have and it sounds like they think Whitley and Corbin Martin could be ready to help the rotation sooner than we thought. He also sounded like the door had not been shut where Keuchel is concerned. Realmuto was not mentioned so I know nathangarza is in a deep depression. They have no interest in signing Marwin...that spot was filled. And I think all of that is probably fine. I'd be fine with Keuchel coming back on a shorter-term deal even if he was a little pricey. I just hope they don't go past four years with anybody already over 30 years of age, unless they're option and incentive-based years. Keuchel's production over the last three season's don't warrant him getting the kind of deal he wants. He is worth no more than $15 million per year on a 3-4 year deal, preferably three. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 28, 2018 12:07:10 GMT -6
I heard Richard Justice on mlb saying that Luhnow is "content" to go to Spring training with what we have and it sounds like they think Whitley and Corbin Martin could be ready to help the rotation sooner than we thought. He also sounded like the door had not been shut where Keuchel is concerned. Realmuto was not mentioned so I know nathangarza is in a deep depression. They have no interest in signing Marwin...that spot was filled. Richard justice is currently writing for the Ray's did you know that? He isnt in the loop that much anymore I believe you never hear him talking about nothing. I took him off the Twitter feed along time ago. Dude is debbie downer So, you are saying your "sources" are more reliable. Yeah,right. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 28, 2018 12:12:48 GMT -6
And I think all of that is probably fine. I'd be fine with Keuchel coming back on a shorter-term deal even if he was a little pricey. I just hope they don't go past four years with anybody already over 30 years of age, unless they're option and incentive-based years. Keuchel's production over the last three season's don't warrant him getting the kind of deal he wants. He is worth no more than $15 million per year on a 3-4 year deal, preferably three. Opinions on what we think he is worth aside, starting pitchers of his caliber go for more than that. Even Happ came out averaging $17 million a year and Corbin is up to $23. Keuchel falls somewhere in between those two pitchers in performance history and potential, so he is going to be around $19-21 million a year regardless of length. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 28, 2018 12:13:24 GMT -6
Keuchel's production over the last three season's don't warrant him getting the kind of deal he wants. He is worth no more than $15 million per year on a 3-4 year deal, preferably three. Opinions on what we think he is worth aside, starting pitchers of his caliber go for more than that. Even Happ came out averaging $17 million a year and Corbin is up to $23. Keuchel falls somewhere in between those two pitchers in performance history and potential, so he is going to be around $19-21 million a year regardless of length. He could get more |
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Post by Saint on Dec 28, 2018 12:19:58 GMT -6
Opinions on what we think he is worth aside, starting pitchers of his caliber go for more than that. Even Happ came out averaging $17 million a year and Corbin is up to $23. Keuchel falls somewhere in between those two pitchers in performance history and potential, so he is going to be around $19-21 million a year regardless of length. He could get more You think he could get more than Corbin? I really doubt it unless he settled for maybe a 2-year deal at $25 million per. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 28, 2018 12:20:23 GMT -6
Opinions on what we think he is worth aside, starting pitchers of his caliber go for more than that. Even Happ came out averaging $17 million a year and Corbin is up to $23. Keuchel falls somewhere in between those two pitchers in performance history and potential, so he is going to be around $19-21 million a year regardless of length. He could get more So far, Boras seems to have him over-priced and he may have to settle for less. We won't give him a deal in the $20million range, I don't think. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 28, 2018 12:36:46 GMT -6
So far, Boras seems to have him over-priced and he may have to settle for less. We won't give him a deal in the $20million range, I don't think. We won't, but Atlatna, San Diego or Philly could give it. |
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They have no interest in signing Marwin...that spot was filled.