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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 8:24:57 GMT -6
Here is my gut feeling BOLD prediction. 1. EE to Houston for Josh Reddick and Joe Perez. 2. This is the Wild one but I've actually seen this one floated around on a couple twitters. Marcus Stroman and Aaron Sanchez to the Astros for Tony Kemp, Yuli Gurriel, Framber Valdez, Rogelio Armentaros and Christian Javier. 3. J.T. Realmuto to the Astros for Yordan Alvarez, J.B. Bukouskas, Max Stassi and Myles Straw. That's alot of prospects going out. 11 players/prospects going out. 4 players comming in. 21 million off the books for 2020 when it's time to resign Verlander and Cole. If you get the Stroman Sanchez trade you protect your Rotation down the road. I get it you dont like it. It's just there is some smoke out there. Out of curiosity - what positive factors do you see in Aaron Sanchez? He had a good year in 2016 but his results in 2017-2018 were pretty bad (like, Mike Fiers bad) and his peripherals (1.56 WHIP) didn't suggest he was just "unlucky". Zips/Steamer might be optimistic about Sanchez going forward, but I would have to put him down for about 100 innings of 4.75 ERA ball in 2019. Framber Valdez could probably do at least as well as that. Sanchez isn't owed a lot of money so it's not like the Jays would want to get rid of him just to dump salary. I can see adding Stroman, but not Sanchez. Sanchez seems to be the guy like Stroman needing a new scene. Better coaching He might be a steal at a buy low type of deal. If anything bull pen guy
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Post by m240 on Dec 29, 2018 8:32:44 GMT -6
This from mlbtr: “The Mariners have grown “increasingly confident” they’ll be able to trade designated hitter/first baseman Edwin Encarnacion before their spring training opens, Jon Morosi of MLB.com says (video link). Encarnacion’s market has picked up in the wake of the Twins’ agreement with Nelson Cruz, whose suitors are now turning to the former. The Rays, White Sox and Astros are each “involved” on both Encarnacion and Cardinals first baseman/outfielder Jose Martinez, according to Morosi.” I would pass on EE. As to Martinez, I will be curious to see how his overall numbers are be affected by the inevitable tinkering the Astros will do with his swing in order to try and increase his HR numbers should he come to Houston. If it takes Armenteros and Kemp to land EE and his 25 million dollar commitment then I think I take a pass as well. If however Nathan's sources are correct and they put Reddick and Davis/Fisher as the trade chips then I would be ok with it. With Martinez I have read that it would take Devenski, Deetz, and another reliever type arm to get Martinez. Martinez though is very interesting and would free us up to trade White as part of a package for a starter.
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 29, 2018 8:35:55 GMT -6
"Sanchez seems to be the guy like Stroman needing a new scene. Better coaching He might be a steal at a buy low type of deal. If anything bull pen guy"
OK thanks. i do see that he had a great year as a reliever in 2014 (1.09 ERA but only threw a bit over 30 innings).
I've read where some people think Sanchez's numbers are high mainly due to injury, implying that somehow he is intrinsically a much better pitcher than his ERA and FIP suggest. However the types of injuries he's had in the past seem to be things he is likely to experience as an Astro.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 8:59:28 GMT -6
Astros management needs to tighten the reins on Bregman before his crap gets out of hand. Bregman is focused when he's between the lines. He has fun outside the lines. I don't mind that. In my mind, it's not a problem unless he loses concentration while during the play of the game.
He actually reminds me a lot of Biggio while on the field. He never takes plays off or fails to make a concerted effort regardless of the probable outcome of a play. I'm not sure why you're so concerned about his behavior. I'm not.
He can be focused without coming across like a jerk and a douche. His antics are a distraction that needs to be avoided. He showed immaturity with the blonde rinse to get attention. I have no problem with his camera stare, but, some of his social media posts need to be eliminated.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 9:02:29 GMT -6
This from mlbtr: “The Mariners have grown “increasingly confident” they’ll be able to trade designated hitter/first baseman Edwin Encarnacion before their spring training opens, Jon Morosi of MLB.com says (video link). Encarnacion’s market has picked up in the wake of the Twins’ agreement with Nelson Cruz, whose suitors are now turning to the former. The Rays, White Sox and Astros are each “involved” on both Encarnacion and Cardinals first baseman/outfielder Jose Martinez, according to Morosi.” I would pass on EE. As to Martinez, I will be curious to see how his overall numbers are be affected by the inevitable tinkering the Astros will do with his swing in order to try and increase his HR numbers should he come to Houston. If it takes Armenteros and Kemp to land EE and his 25 million dollar commitment then I think I take a pass as well. If however Nathan's sources are correct and they put Reddick and Davis/Fisher as the trade chips then I would be ok with it. With Martinez I have read that it would take Devenski, Deetz, and another reliever type arm to get Martinez. Martinez though is very interesting and would free us up to trade White as part of a package for a starter. The Astros were said to have "been involved" on several players who could have helped them,but, Luhnow failed to get anybody of note besides Brantley.......no pitching help being the main problem that has been unsolved. Cruz was thought t o be a sure thing.....he sat on his ass while the Twins got him.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 9:20:43 GMT -6
"Sanchez seems to be the guy like Stroman needing a new scene. Better coaching He might be a steal at a buy low type of deal. If anything bull pen guy" OK thanks. i do see that he had a great year as a reliever in 2014 (1.09 ERA but only threw a bit over 30 innings). I've read where some people think Sanchez's numbers are high mainly due to injury, implying that somehow he is intrinsically a much better pitcher than his ERA and FIP suggest. However the types of injuries he's had in the past seem to be things he is likely to experience as an Astro. It's a risk reward type of deal. With some vets around him he also might be able to turn it around aswell. A winning atmosphere sometimes helps aswell. Def behind you can boost confadence. There are alot of factors in his game. Did you notice his away stats?
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 9:24:44 GMT -6
This from mlbtr: “The Mariners have grown “increasingly confident” they’ll be able to trade designated hitter/first baseman Edwin Encarnacion before their spring training opens, Jon Morosi of MLB.com says (video link). Encarnacion’s market has picked up in the wake of the Twins’ agreement with Nelson Cruz, whose suitors are now turning to the former. The Rays, White Sox and Astros are each “involved” on both Encarnacion and Cardinals first baseman/outfielder Jose Martinez, according to Morosi.” I would pass on EE. As to Martinez, I will be curious to see how his overall numbers are be affected by the inevitable tinkering the Astros will do with his swing in order to try and increase his HR numbers should he come to Houston. If it takes Armenteros and Kemp to land EE and his 25 million dollar commitment then I think I take a pass as well. If however Nathan's sources are correct and they put Reddick and Davis/Fisher as the trade chips then I would be ok with it. With Martinez I have read that it would take Devenski, Deetz, and another reliever type arm to get Martinez. Martinez though is very interesting and would free us up to trade White as part of a package for a starter. They want Reddicks money moved. That's plane as day. If they Go get EE they have to include Reddick. The only thing is Prospects going back. JOE PEREZ fits the bill of a type of player they need for the long haul replacing Seager when his contract gos down. But hit buy out 5m or next years pay is still high and would depend on management wanting that win now. I personally would go for Jose Martinez but the Cards I doubt would even consider trades to the Astros. My thought on that would be they need a Reliever so why not offer them one?
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 9:27:05 GMT -6
@jonmorosi says that the #Astros are pursuing both Edwin Encarnacion and Jose Martinez, for what it’s worth #AstrosTwitter. 👀
As I said before watch this the rest of the offseason. This is the story to watch. I prefer Jose Martinez
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 9:28:54 GMT -6
Also note Astros could be on talks with the Ray's about Tommy Pham. Apparently he ruffled some feathers with his MLB network conversation about how bad the fans are and the lack there of. Also the Ray's might need to move if the fans cant get behind the team.
Pham would be a great add if you get Jose Martinez and move Reddick
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 29, 2018 9:31:26 GMT -6
Also note Astros could be on talks with the Ray's about Tommy Pham. Apparently he ruffled some feathers with his MLB network conversation about how bad the fans are and the lack there of. Also the Ray's might need to move if the fans cant get behind the team. Pham would be a great add if you get Jose Martinez and move Reddick Tommy Pham would be a great add so long as the cost is reasonable.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 9:36:44 GMT -6
Also note Astros could be on talks with the Ray's about Tommy Pham. Apparently he ruffled some feathers with his MLB network conversation about how bad the fans are and the lack there of. Also the Ray's might need to move if the fans cant get behind the team. Pham would be a great add if you get Jose Martinez and move Reddick Tommy Pham would be a great add so long as the cost is reasonable. Pham would be insurance on Tucker spot starter rotating COF.
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Post by m240 on Dec 29, 2018 9:44:21 GMT -6
If it takes Armenteros and Kemp to land EE and his 25 million dollar commitment then I think I take a pass as well. If however Nathan's sources are correct and they put Reddick and Davis/Fisher as the trade chips then I would be ok with it. With Martinez I have read that it would take Devenski, Deetz, and another reliever type arm to get Martinez. Martinez though is very interesting and would free us up to trade White as part of a package for a starter. They want Reddicks money moved. That's plane as day. If they Go get EE they have to include Reddick. The only thing is Prospects going back. JOE PEREZ fits the bill of a type of player they need for the long haul replacing Seager when his contract gos down. But hit buy out 5m or next years pay is still high and would depend on management wanting that win now. I personally would go for Jose Martinez but the Cards I doubt would even consider trades to the Astros. My thought on that would be they need a Reliever so why not offer them one? What I read was the same on Reddick but that they preferred to move Davis as the other piece, not Perez. Moving Reddick moves 26 million of salary and takes back on 25 million because of EE's 20 million hit this year and 5 million dollar buy out. Domingo Santana's defense sucks and Reddick plays all three outfield spots so it increases their options to take Reddick and Davis as the return.
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Post by m240 on Dec 29, 2018 9:46:04 GMT -6
Tommy Pham would be a great add so long as the cost is reasonable. Pham would be insurance on Tucker spot starter rotating COF. Mitigating the down side risk on Tucker would be very smart. It may take another year before he is actually ready to become a solid performer.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 10:11:13 GMT -6
They want Reddicks money moved. That's plane as day. If they Go get EE they have to include Reddick. The only thing is Prospects going back. JOE PEREZ fits the bill of a type of player they need for the long haul replacing Seager when his contract gos down. But hit buy out 5m or next years pay is still high and would depend on management wanting that win now. I personally would go for Jose Martinez but the Cards I doubt would even consider trades to the Astros. My thought on that would be they need a Reliever so why not offer them one? What I read was the same on Reddick but that they preferred to move Davis as the other piece, not Perez. Moving Reddick moves 26 million of salary and takes back on 25 million because of EE's 20 million hit this year and 5 million dollar buy out. Domingo Santana's defense sucks and Reddick plays all three outfield spots so it increases their options to take Reddick and Davis as the return. Yea it makes since. I mean J.D.Davis was talked about in the Mazara Talks
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 10:11:56 GMT -6
Pham would be insurance on Tucker spot starter rotating COF. Mitigating the down side risk on Tucker would be very smart. It may take another year before he is actually ready to become a solid performer. I think there is still some small doubt. That's why there might be talks on Mazara and Pham. GARCIA is still out there
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Post by Saint on Dec 29, 2018 10:20:31 GMT -6
This from mlbtr: “The Mariners have grown “increasingly confident” they’ll be able to trade designated hitter/first baseman Edwin Encarnacion before their spring training opens, Jon Morosi of MLB.com says (video link). Encarnacion’s market has picked up in the wake of the Twins’ agreement with Nelson Cruz, whose suitors are now turning to the former. The Rays, White Sox and Astros are each “involved” on both Encarnacion and Cardinals first baseman/outfielder Jose Martinez, according to Morosi.” I would pass on EE. As to Martinez, I will be curious to see how his overall numbers are be affected by the inevitable tinkering the Astros will do with his swing in order to try and increase his HR numbers should he come to Houston. I don't think we need more offensive help, but I'd greatly prefer Martinez.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 10:26:17 GMT -6
This from mlbtr: “The Mariners have grown “increasingly confident” they’ll be able to trade designated hitter/first baseman Edwin Encarnacion before their spring training opens, Jon Morosi of MLB.com says (video link). Encarnacion’s market has picked up in the wake of the Twins’ agreement with Nelson Cruz, whose suitors are now turning to the former. The Rays, White Sox and Astros are each “involved” on both Encarnacion and Cardinals first baseman/outfielder Jose Martinez, according to Morosi.” I would pass on EE. As to Martinez, I will be curious to see how his overall numbers are be affected by the inevitable tinkering the Astros will do with his swing in order to try and increase his HR numbers should he come to Houston. I don't think we need more offensive help, but I'd greatly prefer Martinez. My thought from the beginning is White plays 1B they want a DH. Yuli is expendable for money purposes. Planning for the future it would be smart to move both Reddick and Yuli
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Post by Saint on Dec 29, 2018 10:39:35 GMT -6
I don't think we need more offensive help, but I'd greatly prefer Martinez. My thought from the beginning is White plays 1B they want a DH. Yuli is expendable for money purposes. Planning for the future it would be smart to move both Reddick and Yuli It would certainly free up a little money over the next couple years,but not if you bring on EE.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 10:53:56 GMT -6
EE would be here for 1 yr and they would buy him out. Or try and restructure before the trade or after the trade for lesser money
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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 11:02:03 GMT -6
This from mlbtr: “The Mariners have grown “increasingly confident” they’ll be able to trade designated hitter/first baseman Edwin Encarnacion before their spring training opens, Jon Morosi of MLB.com says (video link). Encarnacion’s market has picked up in the wake of the Twins’ agreement with Nelson Cruz, whose suitors are now turning to the former. The Rays, White Sox and Astros are each “involved” on both Encarnacion and Cardinals first baseman/outfielder Jose Martinez, according to Morosi.” I would pass on EE. As to Martinez, I will be curious to see how his overall numbers are be affected by the inevitable tinkering the Astros will do with his swing in order to try and increase his HR numbers should he come to Houston. I don't think we need more offensive help, but I'd greatly prefer Martinez. I guess I would be ok with trading for EE as long as Reddick is part of the deal in order to open up RF for Tucker.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 11:14:07 GMT -6
Hypothetical
Would you be ok with Adding Harper still? If it meant nothing else done this offseason but maybe a pitcher and moving salary of Reddick Yuli and Marisnick?
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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 11:26:48 GMT -6
Hypothetical Would you be ok with Adding Harper still? If it meant nothing else done this offseason but maybe a pitcher and moving salary of Reddick Yuli and Marisnick? No on Harper. The only player in all of baseball who I would even consider giving a 10-year contract to would be Trout.
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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 11:30:25 GMT -6
I don't think we need more offensive help, but I'd greatly prefer Martinez. My thought from the beginning is White plays 1B they want a DH. Yuli is expendable for money purposes. Planning for the future it would be smart to move both Reddick and Yuli Trading Yuli to Toronto and having he and Lourdes playing on the same team would make for a nice story on mlb.com. I just can’t see that happening though. Why would the Jays want him. Where would he play?
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 29, 2018 11:36:28 GMT -6
I mean if EE would still cost a lot of money, I don’t see the point of trading away Reddick’s salary.
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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 11:48:04 GMT -6
This from mlbtr: “The Mariners have grown “increasingly confident” they’ll be able to trade designated hitter/first baseman Edwin Encarnacion before their spring training opens, Jon Morosi of MLB.com says (video link). Encarnacion’s market has picked up in the wake of the Twins’ agreement with Nelson Cruz, whose suitors are now turning to the former. The Rays, White Sox and Astros are each “involved” on both Encarnacion and Cardinals first baseman/outfielder Jose Martinez, according to Morosi.” I would pass on EE. As to Martinez, I will be curious to see how his overall numbers are be affected by the inevitable tinkering the Astros will do with his swing in order to try and increase his HR numbers should he come to Houston. I don't think we need more offensive help, but I'd greatly prefer Martinez. I can’t make sense of the White Sox reported interest in trading for EE or Martinez. They have Abreu and they just traded for Alonso.
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Post by m240 on Dec 29, 2018 11:56:53 GMT -6
I don't think we need more offensive help, but I'd greatly prefer Martinez. I can’t make sense of the White Sox reported interest in trading for EE or Martinez. They have Abreu and they just traded for Alonso. Martinez does play a Carlos Lee brand of outfield defense. Maybe the whole package is better than what they already can put out there.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 29, 2018 11:57:05 GMT -6
I think the Astros would have signed Cruz if White could have spot started in the OF. If Straw has a good spring training, I see the Astros trying to get what they can for Kemp.
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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 12:01:40 GMT -6
I mean if EE would still cost a lot of money, I don’t see the point of trading away Reddick’s salary. Reddick is owed $26 miilion and is locked in for the next 2 years. EE is signed for $20 million for 2019 and another $20 million for 2020, but he can be bought out in 2020 for $5 million. So, if we bought him out in 2020, he would cost us $25 million and be gone after one year. If the Astros want to move Reddick badly enough in order to open up RF for Tucker now, and if Luhnow can’t find any other takers for Reddick, I could understand him making that deal for EE, if Seattle would go for it.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 29, 2018 12:20:38 GMT -6
I mean having EE for one year instead of Reddick just saves them $1 million. I don’t see that much incentive in having him here instead.
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 29, 2018 12:30:06 GMT -6
I mean having EE for one year instead of Reddick just saves them $1 million. I don’t see that much incentive to having him here instead. EE is practically a one dimensional player, where Josh gives AJ in game defense moves.
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