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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 12:37:11 GMT -6
I think the Astros would have signed Cruz if White could have spot started in the OF. If Straw has a good spring training, I see the Astros trying to get what they can for Kemp. The D’backs have talked about moving Marte to CF next season. That would open up second base for them. They could also use a RF as Souza couldn’t hit his butt with both hands. I could see Arizona as a destination for Kemp..., maybe Reddick too in a deal for Greinke?
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 12:53:47 GMT -6
This from mlbtr: “The Mariners have grown “increasingly confident” they’ll be able to trade designated hitter/first baseman Edwin Encarnacion before their spring training opens, Jon Morosi of MLB.com says (video link). Encarnacion’s market has picked up in the wake of the Twins’ agreement with Nelson Cruz, whose suitors are now turning to the former. The Rays, White Sox and Astros are each “involved” on both Encarnacion and Cardinals first baseman/outfielder Jose Martinez, according to Morosi.” I would pass on EE. As to Martinez, I will be curious to see how his overall numbers are be affected by the inevitable tinkering the Astros will do with his swing in order to try and increase his HR numbers should he come to Houston. I don't think we need more offensive help, but I'd greatly prefer Martinez. One more power-hitting run producer is what we need.....that is why we screwed up in not signing Cruz. Getting EE would be more expensive. I would prefe Martinez since Luhnow messed up and lost Cruz.
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 29, 2018 13:12:51 GMT -6
I mean having EE for one year instead of Reddick just saves them $1 million. I don’t see that much incentive to having him here instead. EE is practically a one dimensional player, where Josh gives AJ in game defense moves. I am not a fan of EE. We need to worry about pitching.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 13:35:51 GMT -6
EE is practically a one dimensional player, where Josh gives AJ in game defense moves. I am not a fan of EE. We need to worry about pitching. Luhnow sounds like he's is contented with what he has which translates into "we can win the division with this roster".......Yes, and we can get knocked out in the ALCS like we did in 2018 if we get out of the division series. Once you are content, the only direction you go is DOWN.
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Post by Saint on Dec 29, 2018 13:38:26 GMT -6
I don't think we need more offensive help, but I'd greatly prefer Martinez. I can’t make sense of the White Sox reported interest in trading for EE or Martinez. They have Abreu and they just traded for Alonso. I question a lot of what the White Sox are doing.
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 29, 2018 13:39:35 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Dec 29, 2018 13:39:57 GMT -6
I don't think we need more offensive help, but I'd greatly prefer Martinez. One more power-hitting run producer is what we need.....that is why we screwed up in not signing Cruz. Getting EE would be more expensive. I would prefe Martinez since Luhnow messed up and lost Cruz. Again, we have enough position players that would benefit from days off that we really don't need a pure DH. Why waste the money?
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Post by Saint on Dec 29, 2018 13:40:54 GMT -6
Lugo would be a very good pick-up.
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 29, 2018 13:44:18 GMT -6
Lugo would be a very good pick-up. Yes. Please!!! Pitching!!!
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Post by m240 on Dec 29, 2018 13:44:28 GMT -6
I think the Astros would have signed Cruz if White could have spot started in the OF. If Straw has a good spring training, I see the Astros trying to get what they can for Kemp. The D’backs have talked about moving Marte to CF next season. That would open up second base for them. They could also use a RF as Souza couldn’t hit his butt with both hands. I could see Arizona as a destination for Kemp..., maybe Reddick too in a deal for Greinke? You and I are in agreement on this, that is a deal I have been talking about for a month now.
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 29, 2018 13:45:25 GMT -6
Lugo would be a very good pick-up. Not Julio...Lmao
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Post by m240 on Dec 29, 2018 13:56:19 GMT -6
I would do Jake Marisnick, Devenski, and Ronnie Dawson for Lugo. Should work for both of us.
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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 14:07:40 GMT -6
Lugo would be a very good pick-up. Yes. Please!!! Pitching!!! From the MLBTR article you posted the link to: “The Mets have certainly solidified the back-end of the bullpen in recent days, what with the trade for Edwin Diaz and the signing of Jeurys Familia, but the rest of the unit seems mostly in shambles: Robert Gsellman, Drew Smith, and Paul Sewald round out the remainder of ’18’s top performers, and none of the trio had a particularly encouraging season. The club could certainly use a defensive-minded type in center field who isn’t a complete zero with the bat, though dealing from its weakest regiment wouldn’t seem to make much sense. Carig does take care to note that New York is “doing background work” on the Astros’ minor-league system, and later notes that the talks are “wider-ranging,” so it does seem more pieces are potentially at play.” Hmmm...”The club could certainly use a defensive-minded type in center field who isn’t a complete zero with the bat,...” I wonder if the Mets consider Jake to be a complete zero with the bat.
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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 14:14:50 GMT -6
I would do Jake Marisnick, Devenski, and Ronnie Dawson for Lugo. Should work for both of us. I would do that deal too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 14:19:04 GMT -6
Lugo would be a very good pick-up. Not Julio...Lmao Lol, I forgot about that goofy looking bastard.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 14:31:09 GMT -6
I can’t make sense of the White Sox reported interest in trading for EE or Martinez. They have Abreu and they just traded for Alonso. I question a lot of what the White Sox are doing. The White Sox are not close to competing.......they don't know what the hell they are doing if they want to spend money on EE.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 14:34:20 GMT -6
I would do Jake Marisnick, Devenski, and Ronnie Dawson for Lugo. Should work for both of us. I would do that deal too. I would dp the deal but I had rather keep Jake and put Kemp in the deal......Jake is a superior OF and Kemp is a weak OF.
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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 14:42:25 GMT -6
Latest Realmuto update:
“@jonmorosi Source: #Astros still interested in J.T. Realmuto, but #Marlins have yet to move off Forrest Whitley or Kyle Tucker as the centerpiece of a possible trade. Thus, there’s been no traction in trade discussions. @mlbnetwork @mlb
576 11:36 AM - Dec 29, 2018”
Luhnow is not going to give them Whitley or Tucker. Astros aren’t desperate for a catcher. JT would be a luxury.
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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 14:47:27 GMT -6
I would do that deal too. I would dp the deal but I had rather keep Jake and put Kemp in the deal......Jake is a superior OF and Kemp is a weak OF. The thing is, the Mets aren’t looking for a second baseman who plays some in the outfield. They are looking for a superior outfielder. If it’s a elite glove man they are looking for to play CF for them, Jake is the guy they will want from us.
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 29, 2018 14:49:34 GMT -6
I would dp the deal but I had rather keep Jake and put Kemp in the deal......Jake is a superior OF and Kemp is a weak OF. The thing is, the Mets aren’t looking for a second baseman who plays some in the outfield. They are looking for a superior outfielder. If it’s a elite glove man they are looking for to play CF for them, Jake is the guy they will want from us. Give them Jake and or Fisher. Maybe Reddick...
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 15:23:59 GMT -6
Latest Realmuto update: “@jonmorosi Source: #Astros still interested in J.T. Realmuto, but #Marlins have yet to move off Forrest Whitley or Kyle Tucker as the centerpiece of a possible trade. Thus, there’s been no traction in trade discussions. @mlbnetwork @mlb 576 11:36 AM - Dec 29, 2018” Luhnow is not going to give them Whitley or Tucker. Astros aren’t desperate for a catcher. JT would be a luxury. Makes you wonder since Astros talked to the Rangers about Mazara and Ray's about Pham
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 15:25:47 GMT -6
The thing is, the Mets aren’t looking for a second baseman who plays some in the outfield. They are looking for a superior outfielder. If it’s a elite glove man they are looking for to play CF for them, Jake is the guy they will want from us. Give them Jake and or Fisher. Maybe Reddick... I would think Marisnick, Fisher and J D. Davis could get that deal done. Save Devinski for a deal for Martinez
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 16:19:49 GMT -6
I think Lunhow is playing the correct game with the Marlins Brass. Everyone understands they will not get a top 30 prospect in the mlb. I honestly think we get Realmuto in the long run.
What about Chris Devenski and a prospect for Jose Martinez?
They need a Relief pitcher
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Post by Saint on Dec 29, 2018 16:28:50 GMT -6
I'm seeing multiple cases of us overvaluing our spare parts in recent posts...
Spare parts bring value if you're prepared to eat salary. Lugo is crazy cheap. Lugo will take a couple decent prospects or a controllable decent talent MLB-ready player...
Edit: Same with Martinez.
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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 16:48:31 GMT -6
I'm seeing multiple cases of us overvaluing our spare parts in recent posts... Spare parts bring value if you're prepared to eat salary. Lugo is crazy cheap. Lugo will take a couple decent prospects or a controllable decent talent MLB-ready player... Edit: Same with Martinez. “@marccarig Some added context here. Told Seth Lugo’s name got floated out as part of wider-ranging trade talks between the Astros and Mets. Sounds like the sides kicked around a bunch of different ideas of late. Thus far, none have gained traction. Quote Tweet Marc Carig @marccarig Hearing that the Astros and Mets have recently been engaged in trade talks. Houston has shown interest in Seth Lugo and New York has been doing some background work on Astros minor leaguers. Unclear if talk has gained traction.” I’ve got a feeling that these talks will result in a trade. The Mets new GM has already shown that he is not afraid to deal. A while back it was reported that the Mets were wanting ML ready players in trade talks. Then they weakened their already not-so-strong farm system when they traded for Diaz and Cano. I could see these talks expanding into a deal sending multiple players...ML ready and prospects.., heading both ways. Frazier is a FA next offseason and the Mets best 3B prospect is a couple years away. Davis might interest them. Marisnick should. Straw probably would. They could use bench help. Kemp might interest them. They are loaded at SP, but they could use middle inning relievers. Devenski, Deetz, Armenteros, McCurry all should interest them.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 29, 2018 16:50:22 GMT -6
I'm seeing multiple cases of us overvaluing our spare parts in recent posts... Spare parts bring value if you're prepared to eat salary. Lugo is crazy cheap. Lugo will take a couple decent prospects or a controllable decent talent MLB-ready player... Edit: Same with Martinez. Lugo has a ridiculous spin rate, I can see why Luhnow/Strom are interested
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 16:53:07 GMT -6
I wonder what all they are looking at.
Alot of teams are intereasted in J.D.Davis and Myles Straw
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 16:55:49 GMT -6
Anyone interested in Randal Grichuk and a prospect for Yuli?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 29, 2018 17:00:20 GMT -6
When did this fanbase turn against Josh Reddick? Every other post lately is calling for him to be traded.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 17:13:38 GMT -6
When did this fanbase turn against Josh Reddick? Every other post lately is calling for him to be traded. nathan is about the only one who keeps saying we are trying to deal Reddick. I haven't seen that report confirmed anywhere. Must have gotten it from one of his "reliable sources".
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