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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 13:58:59 GMT -6
There is a 40% chance Marwin Gonzalez comes back to the Astros. I'm against it due to dollar value he wants. But apparently Crane and Marwin have talked alot At this time, what is the point of bringing Marwin back? I personally have always liked Marwin, but don't need him anymore. I am 99% sure he will be playing for another team next year. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 18, 2019 14:16:44 GMT -6
There is a 40% chance Marwin Gonzalez comes back to the Astros. I'm against it due to dollar value he wants. But apparently Crane and Marwin have talked alot At this time, what is the point of bringing Marwin back? I personally have always liked Marwin, but don't need him anymore. I am 99% sure he will be playing for another team next year. Never hurts to have a switch hitter, with power, who can play 4 infield positions, LF, and be a DH. I am not saying we should bring him back, but, there are worse options out there. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 18, 2019 14:44:04 GMT -6
I'm just not a fan of his price tag.
The other aspect of him is his anemic bat during the season.
He would be an interesting add as a Dh/across the board guy. but the draw back is his price.
I still think he ends up some where else.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 18, 2019 14:54:03 GMT -6
I have no love for any player who goes missing for half the season like Marwin does. His occasional decent production and lucky HRs don't make up for 4 or 5 months of half-assed play. And certainly not worth what he's rumored to be seeking.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 18, 2019 14:55:12 GMT -6
I have no love for any player who goes missing for half the season like Marwin does. His occasional decent production and lucky HRs don't make up for 4 or 5 months of half-assed play. And certainly not worth what he's rumored to be seeking. Not only that but I hate his agent. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 18, 2019 15:20:15 GMT -6
There is a 40% chance Marwin Gonzalez comes back to the Astros. I'm against it due to dollar value he wants. But apparently Crane and Marwin have talked alot I am more interested in putting together a team that can WIN instead of following the example left by Drayton McLane.......get players at Goodwill and claiming you are "building a champion". We don't need Frazier........if Crane wants Marwin, he will get him back......After all, he signs the checks. McLane spent money just not wisely.....he did not believe in building the farm system up.. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 18, 2019 15:30:22 GMT -6
I am more interested in putting together a team that can WIN instead of following the example left by Drayton McLane.......get players at Goodwill and claiming you are "building a champion". We don't need Frazier........if Crane wants Marwin, he will get him back......After all, he signs the checks. McLane spent money just not wisely.....he did not believe in building the farm system up.. He also dumped Mike Hampton and Billy Wagner. He blew money on Swindell, Drabek, Hidalgo, etc. He refuse to pay Carl Everett who behaved in Houston and produced. He protected Derek Bell in the expansion draft and lost Bobby Abreu. About all Drayton did was keep Biggio and Bagwell and that was mostly a PR move by him. He got rid of Hunsicker because he wanted to keep trying to win instead of saving money and ended up with a dud like Purpura. I was so glad when he sold the team to Crane even though I didn't like the idea of moving to the AL. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 18, 2019 15:35:15 GMT -6
How do you feel about moving to the AL now?
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Post by Saint on Jan 18, 2019 16:03:19 GMT -6
How do you feel about moving to the AL now? Count me as a guy that hated at first, but now I don't really care. I think it's only a matter of time before the NL ends up with a DH anyways. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 18, 2019 16:03:41 GMT -6
How do you feel about moving to the AL now? I don't mind it., I still want to either see the DH totally dropped or be used in both leagues. For AL teams not to be able to use it in NL parks is BS. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 18, 2019 16:05:45 GMT -6
Some dipshit writer is suggesting a strike against MLB. Lovely. 🙄
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Post by Saint on Jan 18, 2019 16:06:25 GMT -6
Also count me in agreement with not bringing Marwin back. We have no need for him whatsoever now that we have Diaz and Brantley. We already have too many backup OFers to where not all of Kemp, Jake, and Straw will get close to consistent playing time, and we have a backup plan for every position of the infield.
He was a solid roleplayer for us who had a great 2017 season, but there's literally zero reasons to spend money on him now.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 18, 2019 16:13:18 GMT -6
Also count me in agreement with not bringing Marwin back. We have no need for him whatsoever now that we have Diaz and Brantley. We already have too many backup OFers to where not all of Kemp, Jake, and Straw will get close to consistent playing time, and we have a backup plan for every position of the infield. He was a solid roleplayer for us who had a great 2017 season, but there's literally zero reasons to spend money on him now. We need pitching. There is some available........not named Keuchel. I trust that Luhnow is working on filling that hole. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 18, 2019 16:28:55 GMT -6
McLane spent money just not wisely.....he did not believe in building the farm system up.. He also dumped Mike Hampton and Billy Wagner. He blew money on Swindell, Drabek, Hidalgo, etc. He refuse to pay Carl Everett who behaved in Houston and produced. He protected Derek Bell in the expansion draft and lost Bobby Abreu. About all Drayton did was keep Biggio and Bagwell and that was mostly a PR move by him. He got rid of Hunsicker because he wanted to keep trying to win instead of saving money and ended up with a dud like Purpura. I was so glad when he sold the team to Crane even though I didn't like the idea of moving to the AL. I like Drabek. I was never a Bell fan. The killer b's. How was Bell a killer anything? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 18, 2019 16:34:50 GMT -6
Does anyone seriously want Marwin back? This offseason is a headscratcher.
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Post by Saint on Jan 18, 2019 16:36:50 GMT -6
He also dumped Mike Hampton and Billy Wagner. He blew money on Swindell, Drabek, Hidalgo, etc. He refuse to pay Carl Everett who behaved in Houston and produced. He protected Derek Bell in the expansion draft and lost Bobby Abreu. About all Drayton did was keep Biggio and Bagwell and that was mostly a PR move by him. He got rid of Hunsicker because he wanted to keep trying to win instead of saving money and ended up with a dud like Purpura. I was so glad when he sold the team to Crane even though I didn't like the idea of moving to the AL. I like Drabek. I was never a Bell fan. The killer b's. How was Bell a killer anything? Bell averaged 15 HR 89 RBI 77 Runs 20 SB a season while hitting .284 with a .771 OPS and that included a god awful 1999 season. His average numbers were drastically better with us before that one season. He was a very solid-to-good player for us. Course, Abreu was better and should go in the HoF, imo. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 18, 2019 17:18:40 GMT -6
He also dumped Mike Hampton and Billy Wagner. He blew money on Swindell, Drabek, Hidalgo, etc. He refuse to pay Carl Everett who behaved in Houston and produced. He protected Derek Bell in the expansion draft and lost Bobby Abreu. About all Drayton did was keep Biggio and Bagwell and that was mostly a PR move by him. He got rid of Hunsicker because he wanted to keep trying to win instead of saving money and ended up with a dud like Purpura. I was so glad when he sold the team to Crane even though I didn't like the idea of moving to the AL. I like Drabek. I was never a Bell fan. The killer b's. How was Bell a killer anything? Bell was as lazy as they come and was prone to pouting. I remember when people on one board named him "dog face".  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 18, 2019 17:21:21 GMT -6
Does anyone seriously want Marwin back? This offseason is a headscratcher. oh, not particularly. We can do better but we could also do a lot worse. I'd sure as hell rather sign him that trade for Frazier or some other dud. I wonder how serious we have negotiated with the Tigers for Castellanos and Fulmer, although I would think the price for Fulmer is high and I am not sure they really want to trade him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 18, 2019 17:22:54 GMT -6
I like Drabek. I was never a Bell fan. The killer b's. How was Bell a killer anything? Bell averaged 15 HR 89 RBI 77 Runs 20 SB a season while hitting .284 with a .771 OPS and that included a god awful 1999 season. His average numbers were drastically better with us before that one season. He was a very solid-to-good player for us. Course, Abreu was better and should go in the HoF, imo. never could understand why we protected Bell and let Abreu go......bad decision. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 18, 2019 17:24:50 GMT -6
it wasn't Bell we protected in lieu of Abreu .. that was Hidalgo
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 18, 2019 17:27:06 GMT -6
Bell didn't come up through the organization, he was acquired from San Diego in a trade
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 18, 2019 17:42:09 GMT -6
it wasn't Bell we protected in lieu of Abreu .. that was Hidalgo You are right.......I got that one wrong. Keeping either of those over Abreu was a mistake. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 18, 2019 17:43:18 GMT -6
Bell didn't come up through the organization, he was acquired from San Diego in a trade
I remember getting him from the Padres. Don't remember who we traded for him. I remember us dealing Caminiti to them but don't recall if Bell was in that deal. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 18, 2019 17:52:44 GMT -6
also, it wasn't Drayton's fault we didn't keep Hampton. Drayton wanted to extend Hamp into his post-arb years, but he told Drayt in 1999 he wanted to test free agency after his contract was up. That's why
Hamp was traded to the Mets the following winter
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 18, 2019 17:59:08 GMT -6
Bell didn't come up through the organization, he was acquired from San Diego in a trade
I remember getting him from the Padres. Don't remember who we traded for him. I remember us dealing Caminiti to them but don't recall if Bell was in that deal.
in the winter of '94 |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 18, 2019 18:00:22 GMT -6
I remember getting him from the Padres. Don't remember who we traded for him. I remember us dealing Caminiti to them but don't recall if Bell was in that deal.
in the winter of '94We got screwed in that deal. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 18, 2019 18:04:22 GMT -6
it was a salary dump .. pure and cynical. Or at least a future-expected salary dump
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 18, 2019 18:54:20 GMT -6
it was a salary dump .. pure and cynical. Or at least a future-expected salary dump Those were the days.... |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 18, 2019 19:03:30 GMT -6
I remember getting him from the Padres. Don't remember who we traded for him. I remember us dealing Caminiti to them but don't recall if Bell was in that deal.
in the winter of '94Did you have all that in your memory, or did you have to look it up? Some of you guys amaze me with the stuff you can remember, and the specificity of it. Sherwin is one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 20:52:48 GMT -6
it wasn't Bell we protected in lieu of Abreu .. that was Hidalgo You are right.......I got that one wrong. Keeping either of those over Abreu was a mistake. In hindsight it was the wrong move, but Hidalgo did have a 40+ homer and 100+ rbi season before we made that decision. Just checked in 2000 he had 44 homers and 122 rbis. Pretty solid but his number went WAY down after that season. |
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