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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 23, 2018 20:11:44 GMT -6
Gattis had a better season than Beltran by far... I never said Beltrán was awesome last year. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 23, 2018 20:19:53 GMT -6
Gattis had a better season than Beltran by far... I never said Beltrán was awesome last year. My point is look how well they did with Beltran and his 81 OPS+ as a DH in 2017. When they went with Gattis they weren't expecting us needing to be carried by a DH, and they still got a productive season from him. They're still not expecting us needing to be carried about a DH. If we get further improvement at DH with White (which seems realistic) for a very minimal cost, why would they go after a DH free agent? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 23, 2018 21:52:42 GMT -6
I never said Beltrán was awesome last year. My point is look how well they did with Beltran and his 81 OPS+ as a DH in 2017. When they went with Gattis they weren't expecting us needing to be carried by a DH, and they still got a productive season from him. They're still not expecting us needing to be carried about a DH. If we get further improvement at DH with White (which seems realistic) for a very minimal cost, why would they go after a DH free agent? Beltran's main contibution was not as a DH,but, leadership in the clubhouse. I hope White proves to be able to handle the regular DH job........I am just not willing to start next season with him as the primary option.,\ |
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Post by marshall on Oct 23, 2018 23:43:49 GMT -6
I love seeing people use an expanded vocabulary without resorting to vulgarity. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 25, 2018 9:23:36 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 25, 2018 10:10:36 GMT -6
Cleveland can go to hell. That’s our boy. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 25, 2018 10:42:03 GMT -6
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Post by sempersmom on Oct 25, 2018 10:47:31 GMT -6
I wouldn't be against that especially if we lose Keuchel. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 25, 2018 10:54:44 GMT -6
I’m a little iffy on Eovaldi. I actually slightly prefer Richards despite the injuries.
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 25, 2018 11:20:40 GMT -6
Cleveland can go to hell. That’s our boy. We are going to have to PAY Marwin in order to keep him.....Plenty of teams want a player like him. I think we can keep him due to Altuve, Correa, etc. but Crane is going to have to pay him. He is worth much more than Keuchel. If Cleveland wants Keuchel, they are welcome to him. Go after Eovaldi and see what happens. I think we can get him. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 25, 2018 11:49:06 GMT -6
Cleveland can go to hell. That’s our boy. We are going to have to PAY Marwin in order to keep him.....Plenty of teams want a player like him. I think we can keep him due to Altuve, Correa, etc. but Crane is going to have to pay him. He is worth much more than Keuchel. If Cleveland wants Keuchel, they are welcome to him. Go after Eovaldi and see what happens. I think we can get him. Wait. A career utility player is worth "much more" than an above average healthy starting pitcher? Come on... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 25, 2018 12:07:09 GMT -6
Cleveland can go to hell. That’s our boy. We are going to have to PAY Marwin in order to keep him.....Plenty of teams want a player like him. I think we can keep him due to Altuve, Correa, etc. but Crane is going to have to pay him. He is worth much more than Keuchel. If Cleveland wants Keuchel, they are welcome to him. Go after Eovaldi and see what happens. I think we can get him. Remember a couple months ago you basically wanted Marwin off the team....so before you go clamoring for him, remember how you felt about him not too long ago.... and on Keuchel, I am only for a QO deal, I am opposed to the Astros signing him to a 4-5 year deal..but I can pretty much guarantee, if the Astros offer him a QO and he declines/signs elsewhere...and he pitches well this upcoming season or next, and one of our respective pitchers is having a bad stretch, you will be saying how foolish the Astros were not offer him a long term deal... |
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 25, 2018 12:55:07 GMT -6
Cleveland can go to hell. That’s our boy. |
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 25, 2018 12:56:50 GMT -6
I can see everyone wanting Jake gone until another club is interested
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 25, 2018 13:06:55 GMT -6
I can see everyone wanting Jake gone until another club is interested I will be consistent on this one. I want him gone, period. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 25, 2018 16:34:41 GMT -6
We are going to have to PAY Marwin in order to keep him.....Plenty of teams want a player like him. I think we can keep him due to Altuve, Correa, etc. but Crane is going to have to pay him. He is worth much more than Keuchel. If Cleveland wants Keuchel, they are welcome to him. Go after Eovaldi and see what happens. I think we can get him. Wait. A career utility player is worth "much more" than an above average healthy starting pitcher? Come on... Marwin plays all four infield positions and the outfield. He is a switch hitter who hits with power from both sides of the plate. He allows us to carry an extra pitcher if we choose instead of another bench player. This "above average" healthy starting pitcher stayed off the DL for a change, I wonder if the fact this was his free agent year had anything to do with that. Keuchel has a tendency of digging us a hole to climb out of in too many of his starts. Sometime we did......sometimesl he lost the game before being pulled. I would definitely pay Marwin more than Keuchel without hesitation. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 25, 2018 16:36:15 GMT -6
I can see everyone wanting Jake gone until another club is interested I will be consistent on this one. I want him gone, period. I will also remain consistent..........I want to keep him until we know we have a better option. Defensive outfielders like Jake don't grow on trees. I think Astros players agree with me. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 25, 2018 16:37:50 GMT -6
We are going to have to PAY Marwin in order to keep him.....Plenty of teams want a player like him. I think we can keep him due to Altuve, Correa, etc. but Crane is going to have to pay him. He is worth much more than Keuchel. If Cleveland wants Keuchel, they are welcome to him. Go after Eovaldi and see what happens. I think we can get him. Remember a couple months ago you basically wanted Marwin off the team....so before you go clamoring for him, remember how you felt about him not too long ago.... and on Keuchel, I am only for a QO deal, I am opposed to the Astros signing him to a 4-5 year deal..but I can pretty much guarantee, if the Astros offer him a QO and he declines/signs elsewhere...and he pitches well this upcoming season or next, and one of our respective pitchers is having a bad stretch, you will be saying how foolish the Astros were not offer him a long term deal... Yes, I wanted Marwin gone before the all-star break.......he was doing nothing. Since then, he looks more like he did last season. I want him to stay......I'll hold the door open for Keuchel. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Oct 25, 2018 17:36:35 GMT -6
Who put the breaking news on the top?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 25, 2018 18:06:24 GMT -6
*whistles innocently*
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Post by Saint on Oct 25, 2018 18:13:10 GMT -6
Wait. A career utility player is worth "much more" than an above average healthy starting pitcher? Come on... Marwin plays all four infield positions and the outfield. He is a switch hitter who hits with power from both sides of the plate. He allows us to carry an extra pitcher if we choose instead of another bench player. This "above average" healthy starting pitcher stayed off the DL for a change, I wonder if the fact this was his free agent year had anything to do with that. Keuchel has a tendency of digging us a hole to climb out of in too many of his starts. Sometime we did......sometimesl he lost the game before being pulled. I would definitely pay Marwin more than Keuchel without hesitation. Okay. I look forward to seeing Marwin getting a bigger contract than Keuchel. 🙄 |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 25, 2018 18:40:25 GMT -6
Marwin plays all four infield positions and the outfield. He is a switch hitter who hits with power from both sides of the plate. He allows us to carry an extra pitcher if we choose instead of another bench player. This "above average" healthy starting pitcher stayed off the DL for a change, I wonder if the fact this was his free agent year had anything to do with that. Keuchel has a tendency of digging us a hole to climb out of in too many of his starts. Sometime we did......sometimesl he lost the game before being pulled. I would definitely pay Marwin more than Keuchel without hesitation. Okay. I look forward to seeing Marwin getting a bigger contract than Keuchel. 🙄 I am not saying Marwin will get the biggest contract, but, as far as the Astros are concerned, he should. Keuchel will be much easier to replace in the rotation than Marwin would be at what he does., Keuchel is a soft-tossing control pitcher who needs an umpire to give him the low strike and both corners. When he is forced to come in the zone, he gets hammered. We have guys to replace him.......McHugh, Peacock, Valdez, James, or maybe Whitley. Also, I won't be surprised if sign a free agent starter or trade for one. In any case, Keuchel will want a lot more than he is worth...........Boras will see to it. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 25, 2018 20:07:54 GMT -6
Marwin plays all four infield positions and the outfield. He is a switch hitter who hits with power from both sides of the plate. He allows us to carry an extra pitcher if we choose instead of another bench player. This "above average" healthy starting pitcher stayed off the DL for a change, I wonder if the fact this was his free agent year had anything to do with that. Keuchel has a tendency of digging us a hole to climb out of in too many of his starts. Sometime we did......sometimesl he lost the game before being pulled. I would definitely pay Marwin more than Keuchel without hesitation. Okay. I look forward to seeing Marwin getting a bigger contract than Keuchel. 🙄 Son, Game 2. World Series ‘17. Top of the 9th. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 25, 2018 20:34:15 GMT -6
Okay. I look forward to seeing Marwin getting a bigger contract than Keuchel. 🙄 Son, Game 2. World Series ‘17. Top of the 9th. If Marwin had not hit that game-tying home run off Jansen, we would not have won last years WS. We could have won it without Keuchel being on the roster. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 25, 2018 20:41:27 GMT -6
Son, Game 2. World Series ‘17. Top of the 9th. If Marwin had not hit that game-tying home run off Jansen, we would not have won last years WS. We could have won it without Keuchel being on the roster. Dallas Keuchel is the greatest pitcher of all time. All his runs allowed are unearned. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 25, 2018 20:50:48 GMT -6
Okay. I look forward to seeing Marwin getting a bigger contract than Keuchel. 🙄 Son, Game 2. World Series ‘17. Top of the 9th. I have nothing against Marwin. He ain't worth what a good starting pitcher makes. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 25, 2018 20:51:11 GMT -6
If Marwin had not hit that game-tying home run off Jansen, we would not have won last years WS. We could have won it without Keuchel being on the roster. Dallas Keuchel is the greatest pitcher of all time. All his runs allowed are unearned. You're better than that. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 25, 2018 21:38:43 GMT -6
Dallas Keuchel is the greatest pitcher of all time. All his runs allowed are unearned. You're better than that. No he’s not. Sherwin can’t even pitch. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 25, 2018 21:51:16 GMT -6
Dallas Keuchel is the greatest pitcher of all time. All his runs allowed are unearned. You're better than that. Oh, come on. Laugh a little. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 25, 2018 21:51:32 GMT -6
No he’s not. Sherwin can’t even pitch. ? |
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