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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 25, 2018 21:54:42 GMT -6
What about a Grieke goldshmidt deal with diamond lacks paying 35m of Grienke contract?
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 25, 2018 21:59:44 GMT -6
Son, Game 2. World Series ‘17. Top of the 9th. I have nothing against Marwin. He ain't worth what a good starting pitcher makes. He ain't worth what Verlander and Cole should get, but, I'd gladly pay him more than Keuchel. Too many people think the Keuchel of today is the same guy who won a CY Young in 2015....He is nowhere close. You over-rate him as do many others. I guarantee you that Boras thinks Keuchel should get at least 4 years at $20 million per year. Any team who pays that is desperate. We will make him a QO, he turns it down, and he is history. We need to offer Marwin a three-year, $45 Million deal. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 25, 2018 22:00:29 GMT -6
What about a Grieke goldshmidt deal with diamond lacks paying 35m of Grienke contract? They can keep Greinke.......I'd like to have Goldschmidt. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 25, 2018 22:03:09 GMT -6
I get what ur saying but if you wanna get Paul you gotta get him cheaper then what he would cost Grienke would be awesome as a 3.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 25, 2018 22:04:19 GMT -6
And there are already circulating rumors Astros are gonna make a play for Realmuto
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 25, 2018 23:16:34 GMT -6
And there are already circulating rumors Astros are gonna make a play for Realmuto Give us a link to back up that claim |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2018 1:33:08 GMT -6
And there are already circulating rumors Astros are gonna make a play for Realmuto I doubt Tucker would be involved seeing as they’re going to give him a shot in Spring Training. I don’t think Realmuto is worth trading Whitley. |
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Post by m240 on Oct 26, 2018 6:20:03 GMT -6
And there are already circulating rumors Astros are gonna make a play for Realmuto I doubt Tucker would be involved seeing as they’re going to give him a shot in Spring Training. I don’t think Realmuto is worth trading Whitley. Whoever we gets needs to have at least two years worth of control involved. We need to get that guy whoever it is and sign Verlander and/or Cole for the longer term. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 26, 2018 6:22:42 GMT -6
And there are already circulating rumors Astros are gonna make a play for Realmuto I doubt Tucker would be involved seeing as they’re going to give him a shot in Spring Training. I don’t think Realmuto is worth trading Whitley. I don't either....Stubbs, right now is the future starting C.....I am hoping either Astros can sign or trade for a veteran catcher that can play for the team for 2 years....the trade would not involve top prospects... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 26, 2018 6:36:35 GMT -6
For trade's sake: Russell Martin (Jays would have to eat 1/2 of his $20M contract), Castillo (former PED user), Cervelli (FA after 2019),
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Post by sempersmom on Oct 26, 2018 8:23:03 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 26, 2018 9:24:23 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 26, 2018 9:29:33 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 26, 2018 9:30:30 GMT -6
No he’s not. Sherwin can’t even pitch. ? Come on, son. It's not difficult. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 26, 2018 9:30:46 GMT -6
I have nothing against Marwin. He ain't worth what a good starting pitcher makes. He ain't worth what Verlander and Cole should get, but, I'd gladly pay him more than Keuchel. Too many people think the Keuchel of today is the same guy who won a CY Young in 2015....He is nowhere close. You over-rate him as do many others. I guarantee you that Boras thinks Keuchel should get at least 4 years at $20 million per year. Any team who pays that is desperate. We will make him a QO, he turns it down, and he is history. We need to offer Marwin a three-year, $45 Million deal. When have I overrated him? I've said he is a #2-#3 with potential to be a #1 (just look at last year). Too many Astros fans UNDERrate him because they're comparing him to a HoFer in Verlander. And teams are desperate for good healthy starting pitching. That's why those pitchers get paid that amount of money. We've been so fortunate the last few years with our pitching. We're lucky. That's not the case with the majority of teams out there. It's not easy to find guys that can do what Keuchel has done the last 5 years. We'll see that ourselves after next year if some of our prospects don't work out. |
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Post by sempersmom on Oct 26, 2018 10:19:21 GMT -6
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Post by sempersmom on Oct 26, 2018 10:19:50 GMT -6
Because it says the Astros lost. Don't need a daily reminder. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 26, 2018 10:26:53 GMT -6
Idk but when your GM says PItcher and Catcher and maybe a postion player are the keys to this train. Guess what be ready for a surprise
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 26, 2018 10:52:16 GMT -6
Former-corner OF Rocco Baldelli is the Twins new manager
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 26, 2018 11:12:12 GMT -6
Former-corner OF Rocco Baldelli is the Twins new manager They still don't have enough talent to be a factor in their division. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 26, 2018 11:16:28 GMT -6
You never heard that song?....It was on the radio my kids were singing it...and then someone told the meaning of it...i was like that is inappropriate for airways. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 26, 2018 11:17:32 GMT -6
He ain't worth what Verlander and Cole should get, but, I'd gladly pay him more than Keuchel. Too many people think the Keuchel of today is the same guy who won a CY Young in 2015....He is nowhere close. You over-rate him as do many others. I guarantee you that Boras thinks Keuchel should get at least 4 years at $20 million per year. Any team who pays that is desperate. We will make him a QO, he turns it down, and he is history. We need to offer Marwin a three-year, $45 Million deal. When have I overrated him? I've said he is a #2-#3 with potential to be a #1 (just look at last year). Too many Astros fans UNDERrate him because they're comparing him to a HoFer in Verlander. And teams are desperate for good healthy starting pitching. That's why those pitchers get paid that amount of money. We've been so fortunate the last few years with our pitching. We're lucky. That's not the case with the majority of teams out there. It's not easy to find guys that can do what Keuchel has done the last 5 years. We'll see that ourselves after next year if some of our prospects don't work out. He might be a #1 on a team desperate for starting pitching like Oakland or Milwaukee. The Yankees would probably pay him what he wants and maybe a few other teams. Keuchel is not worth what his asking price will be to the Astros. What we are willing to pay should be determined by his importance to our rotation. Since we have other options available that cost substantially less, we should use those options and refuse to pay an inflated asking price for a guy who consistently gives up early inning runs and gets us behind in games he starts. I still find it interesting that the ONE year Keuchel stayed off the DL is the year he became a free agent and wants a top dollar, long-term deal. Let him go........the money he wants can be better spent on other players..........Marwin, Morton, Eovaldi, a catcher. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2018 11:24:29 GMT -6
Former-corner OF Rocco Baldelli is the Twins new manager I thought Molitor was MOY and essential to team progress. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2018 11:25:37 GMT -6
Come on, son. It's not difficult. Elaborate, sir. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 26, 2018 11:29:57 GMT -6
When have I overrated him? I've said he is a #2-#3 with potential to be a #1 (just look at last year). Too many Astros fans UNDERrate him because they're comparing him to a HoFer in Verlander. And teams are desperate for good healthy starting pitching. That's why those pitchers get paid that amount of money. We've been so fortunate the last few years with our pitching. We're lucky. That's not the case with the majority of teams out there. It's not easy to find guys that can do what Keuchel has done the last 5 years. We'll see that ourselves after next year if some of our prospects don't work out. He might be a #1 on a team desperate for starting pitching like Oakland or Milwaukee. The Yankees would probably pay him what he wants and maybe a few other teams. Keuchel is not worth what his asking price will be to the Astros. What we are willing to pay should be determined by his importance to our rotation. Since we have other options available that cost substantially less, we should use those options and refuse to pay an inflated asking price for a guy who consistently gives up early inning runs and gets us behind in games he starts. I still find it interesting that the ONE year Keuchel stayed off the DL is the year he became a free agent and wants a top dollar, long-term deal. Let him go........the money he wants can be better spent on other players..........Marwin, Morton, Eovaldi, a catcher. What WE'RE willing to pay for him is different from what he is worth. Obviously we don't need him for what he is going to bring in, but that doesn't make other teams "foolish" for paying him and wanting a pitcher of his caliber. And what do you mean the "one" year? He has only been on the DL twice and even those years he made 20+ starts... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2018 11:36:55 GMT -6
He might be a #1 on a team desperate for starting pitching like Oakland or Milwaukee. The Yankees would probably pay him what he wants and maybe a few other teams. Keuchel is not worth what his asking price will be to the Astros. What we are willing to pay should be determined by his importance to our rotation. Since we have other options available that cost substantially less, we should use those options and refuse to pay an inflated asking price for a guy who consistently gives up early inning runs and gets us behind in games he starts. I still find it interesting that the ONE year Keuchel stayed off the DL is the year he became a free agent and wants a top dollar, long-term deal. Let him go........the money he wants can be better spent on other players..........Marwin, Morton, Eovaldi, a catcher. What WE'RE willing to pay for him is different from what he is worth. Obviously we don't need him for what he is going to bring in, but that doesn't make other teams "foolish" for paying him and wanting a pitcher of his caliber. And what do you mean the "one" year? He has only been on the DL twice and even those years he made 20+ starts... I think Keuchel can be the ace of a horrible staff. His ideal role is a #3, 4, or 5 starter. He can be a #2 on a team with an elite infield that can cover a lot of ground outside the shift. To be fair, I think our shifts hurt him more than other pitchers. I think that a slight shift or a straight up configuration takes away those gaping holes that hitters could easily direct a batted ball. He will return to greatness if he gets that sort of defense behind him. I don’t think he’s worth a ton of money, though, because he relies on two things: aggressive hitters and favorable umpires. Patient offenses eat him alive. We already know he gives up a lot of hits. Add walks to it, and it’ll be a long day. |
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Post by sempersmom on Oct 26, 2018 11:43:21 GMT -6
You never heard that song?....It was on the radio my kids were singing it...and then someone told the meaning of it...i was like that is inappropriate for airways. I can honestly say I've never heard that song. I'm officially old. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 26, 2018 12:23:24 GMT -6
With Keuchel, it should be remembered that his overall productivity might be skewed by the fact that the Astros offense was good enough to make up for all those early-inning runs he gave up (not to mention their league-leading defense.) In a scenario where a team has less hitting success (and worse defense), some of Keuchel's numbers might be considerably worse.
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 26, 2018 12:29:12 GMT -6
Come on, son. It's not difficult. Elaborate, sir.
Todd: You're better than that
Tim: No he's not; Sherwin can't even pitch
Max Weinberg: rimshot |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 26, 2018 12:38:38 GMT -6
Sherwin: Dallas Keuchel is the greatest pitcher of all time
Todd: You're better than that
Tim: No he's not; Sherwin can't even pitch
Max Weinberg: rimshot  |
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