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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 26, 2018 12:51:50 GMT -6
He might be a #1 on a team desperate for starting pitching like Oakland or Milwaukee. The Yankees would probably pay him what he wants and maybe a few other teams. Keuchel is not worth what his asking price will be to the Astros. What we are willing to pay should be determined by his importance to our rotation. Since we have other options available that cost substantially less, we should use those options and refuse to pay an inflated asking price for a guy who consistently gives up early inning runs and gets us behind in games he starts. I still find it interesting that the ONE year Keuchel stayed off the DL is the year he became a free agent and wants a top dollar, long-term deal. Let him go........the money he wants can be better spent on other players..........Marwin, Morton, Eovaldi, a catcher. What WE'RE willing to pay for him is different from what he is worth. Obviously we don't need him for what he is going to bring in, but that doesn't make other teams "foolish" for paying him and wanting a pitcher of his caliber. And what do you mean the "one" year? He has only been on the DL twice and even those years he made 20+ starts... I mean in the two seasons prior to this one, Keuchel made at least one trip to the DL without anyone ever knowing exactly why.. Most sources say it was to "rest" up for the stretch run. Fact is he has never been close to the pitcher he was in 2015. Many people can't forget how good he was then and expect him to be the same caliber pitcher now. Hitters around the league have figured him out and most of them are not laying off pitches they use to swing at that allowed Keuchel to get them out. I get tired of hearing Hinch say "he is always one pitch away from a ground ball DP that gets him out of trouble". You never heard it said that he is also a pitch away from a three-run homer that gets us out of the game. True, Keuchel is worth more to other teams than to the Astros, and, for that reason he will probably get what he wants.........or close to it........from some other team. Our money is better spent elsewhere. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2018 15:28:28 GMT -6
Sherwin: Dallas Keuchel is the greatest pitcher of all time
Todd: You're better than that
Tim: No he's not; Sherwin can't even pitch
Max Weinberg: rimshot Gotcha. I was thinking too 4th dimensionally, Marty. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2018 15:29:51 GMT -6
With Keuchel, it should be remembered that his overall productivity might be skewed by the fact that the Astros offense was good enough to make up for all those early-inning runs he gave up (not to mention their league-leading defense.) In a scenario where a team has less hitting success (and worse defense), some of Keuchel's numbers might be considerably worse. This. |
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Post by sempersmom on Oct 26, 2018 16:13:08 GMT -6
ABregman is not the only one who noticed. He's just the first to ask about it. |
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 26, 2018 16:26:27 GMT -6
Sherwin: Dallas Keuchel is the greatest pitcher of all time
Todd: You're better than that
Tim: No he's not; Sherwin can't even pitch
Max Weinberg: rimshot Gotcha. I was thinking too 4th dimensionally, Marty.
went back in time in Back to the Future. Then I realized Robert Zemeckis directed both movies |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 26, 2018 17:17:47 GMT -6
And today is October 26
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 26, 2018 18:50:13 GMT -6
If Sherwin didn't know he made a BTTF reference on October 26, I'm going to call him Magic Tiger from now on
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2018 19:24:36 GMT -6
If Sherwin didn't know he made a BTTF reference on October 26, I'm going to call him Magic Tiger from now on LOL |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 26, 2018 19:55:39 GMT -6
If Sherwin didn't know he made a BTTF reference on October 26, I'm going to call him Magic Tiger from now on I assure you, you are the only one who knew that, nerd. |
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Post by olpapa on Oct 27, 2018 18:51:30 GMT -6
Latest news coming out of Arlington on Texas’ search for a new manager:
“Rangers still poking around. Could get Clapp.”
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 27, 2018 18:57:03 GMT -6
Latest news coming out of Arlington on Texas’ search for a new manager: “Rangers still poking around. Could get Clapp.” The Rangers could hire Jeff Bagwell as manager, and I still wouldn’t like them. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 19:24:56 GMT -6
“Rangers still poking around. Could get Clapp.”With the Rangers....... The punch lines write themselves. |
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Post by olpapa on Oct 27, 2018 21:14:26 GMT -6
“Rangers still poking around. Could get Clapp.”With the Rangers....... The punch lines write themselves. Stubby Clapp. SMH |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 27, 2018 22:28:25 GMT -6
With the Rangers....... The punch lines write themselves. Stubby Clapp. SMH half of the idiots in that organization probably have the Clapp. I feel sorry for whoever is foolish enough to accept that job to work under an egomaniac like Daniels. |
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Post by sempersmom on Oct 29, 2018 14:06:33 GMT -6
Latest news coming out of Arlington on Texas’ search for a new manager: “Rangers still poking around. Could get Clapp.” That is too funny. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 29, 2018 16:47:54 GMT -6
Word on the skreet is that the Astros made QO to Dallas Keuchel, and did not make one to Marwin. No word yet on Charlie F'n Morton.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 29, 2018 17:01:14 GMT -6
Word on the skreet is that the Astros made QO to Dallas Keuchel, and did not make one to Marwin. No word yet on Charlie F'n Morton. Is Nathan Garza a reputable source? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 29, 2018 17:11:41 GMT -6
He gets his info through the art of voodoo.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 29, 2018 17:23:49 GMT -6
So, apparently Cora and a lot of his players have "animosity" toward Trump, and are likely to decide not to attend the White House celebration.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 29, 2018 17:23:53 GMT -6
No Marwin is in Negotiations with the Astros. MORTON might be a late call on him not the team. So that's just a givin
Dallas QO was a Formality for that Pick
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 29, 2018 17:29:44 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 29, 2018 21:43:15 GMT -6
Word on the skreet is that the Astros made QO to Dallas Keuchel, and did not make one to Marwin. No word yet on Charlie F'n Morton. If they made an offer to Keuchel and aren't interested in keeping Marwin and Morton, I have to wonder if they are as dedicated to winning as we thought |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 29, 2018 21:47:53 GMT -6
So, apparently Cora and a lot of his players have "animosity" toward Trump, and are likely to decide not to attend the White House celebration. Some of the Puerta Ricans seem to think it is Trump's job to totally rebuild the country. We have sent more than our share of aid down there. Individual clubs and players have been helping. Neither Cora nor anyone else has a right to have animosity toward Trump. But, in typical liberal fashion, they think it is the government's place to pay for everything. Let the damn Puerta Rican's help themselves. I would guess we have done more for them than all other countries combined. Piss on Cora |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 29, 2018 22:35:46 GMT -6
Word on the skreet is that the Astros made QO to Dallas Keuchel, and did not make one to Marwin. No word yet on Charlie F'n Morton. If they made an offer to Keuchel and aren't interested in keeping Marwin and Morton, I have to wonder if they are as dedicated to winning as we thought It’s simple. They made the offer to DK because they know he probably won’t take it (which gets them a draft pick). They didn’t offer to Marwin, because he MIGHT take it, and everyone except this forum knows Marwin isn’t worth $18,000,000. i think they’re probably working on a contract with Morton. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 29, 2018 22:37:39 GMT -6
So, apparently Cora and a lot of his players have "animosity" toward Trump, and are likely to decide not to attend the White House celebration. Some of the Puerta Ricans seem to think it is Trump's job to totally rebuild the country. We have sent more than our share of aid down there. Individual clubs and players have been helping. Neither Cora nor anyone else has a right to have animosity toward Trump. But, in typical liberal fashion, they think it is the government's place to pay for everything. Let the damn Puerta Rican's help themselves. I would guess we have done more for them than all other countries combined. Piss on Cora You apparently missed the memo on Puerto Rico being a part of the US...for, like, a long time now. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 29, 2018 23:09:24 GMT -6
Some of the Puerta Ricans seem to think it is Trump's job to totally rebuild the country. We have sent more than our share of aid down there. Individual clubs and players have been helping. Neither Cora nor anyone else has a right to have animosity toward Trump. But, in typical liberal fashion, they think it is the government's place to pay for everything. Let the damn Puerta Rican's help themselves. I would guess we have done more for them than all other countries combined. Piss on Cora You apparently missed the memo on Puerto Rico being a part of the US...for, like, a long time now. No, I have known for years that Puerto Rico is a territory or protectorate...they are NOT a state. Unless they obtain statehood, they are not actually a "part" of the US. In any case, we have done more than our share to help rebuild that country. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Oct 29, 2018 23:11:15 GMT -6
If they made an offer to Keuchel and aren't interested in keeping Marwin and Morton, I have to wonder if they are as dedicated to winning as we thought It’s simple. They made the offer to DK because they know he probably won’t take it (which gets them a draft pick). They didn’t offer to Marwin, because he MIGHT take it, and everyone except this forum knows Marwin isn’t worth $18,000,000. i think they’re probably working on a contract with Morton. I don't think Marwin is worth $18 milion and I don't think it will take that much to sign him. I agree that the QO was probably made to Keuchel knowing he won't take it. Not re-signing Morton and Marwin would be a mistake. We also need to go after Eovaldi and a catcher. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Oct 30, 2018 5:58:40 GMT -6
I wouldnt look at high profile players in FA
Js if they are doing what they are with DK then you can bet the Additions to this team will be threw Trade
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 7:18:32 GMT -6
I believe if we bring back the same team as last year with some minor additions we can compete for a World Series again. A lot of our issues last year was an unhealthy Correa and Altuve for he majority of the year.
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Post by Saint on Oct 30, 2018 8:07:13 GMT -6
If they made an offer to Keuchel and aren't interested in keeping Marwin and Morton, I have to wonder if they are as dedicated to winning as we thought It’s simple. They made the offer to DK because they know he probably won’t take it (which gets them a draft pick). They didn’t offer to Marwin, because he MIGHT take it, and everyone except this forum knows Marwin isn’t worth $18,000,000. i think they’re probably working on a contract with Morton. I think you're exactly right. Hopefully they're looking at a 2-year deal with Marwin for $10-20 million. Cheaper than the QO and we maintain some depth in case White/Tucker/etc. don't step up. I would do the same thing with Morton. |
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